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yeh well, i have had it working since i got my 725 (may) with my 22inch hd screen.. i would just plug it in and it would pick it up and go to extended desktop. But this is the first (second and third) time i have tried it since moving to the 9.6 drivers, so that is the only major change that my 725 has undergone.. so one would assume that this is the first likely problem.

But i may try driver scanner if i cant fix it.

 

Hello,

My wife is considering the MSI GT725 for a WOW gaming laptop. This would be a dedicated WOW machine for the most part as she has other laptop for business and such. The machine will not be used for travel and aesthetic design and the like are not important, just function, performance, reliability, and keyboard ergonomics.

I had a few questions about the GT725.

Is it available with back-lite keyboard?

What is the going price for a GT725 machine that is configured to run WOW?

Given the requirements of WOW, how would this HP from costco for $999 with ATI Radeon HD 4650 1 GB video card stack up to the MSI? We are a bit partial to costco because of their return policy and because we get cash back on the Amex business card. However, the bottom line is the machine needs to run WOW well.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11471523&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|84|56670&N=4033674&Mo=10&No=3&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=78105&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&hierPath=84*56670*4774*&topnav=


Thanks

 

also why i take 5.6?? as i have 7200rpm? there are setting or smthing?
thanks

 

its the best program!!! i have all my drivers up to date!! also it comes with registrybooster and speedupmypc.if you download them too tell me for serials ))) programs that all must have!! also i have the hdd sentinel which check my hdd if its working good and how much life it has

 

also...i yesterday i saw the bolt movie in full hd connected to 32" without problem!! i also have 9.6moded!

 

No backlit keyboard, To play WOW, machine would cost you a minium of $1,347.00 brand new. As for the 4650, it dont even compare to the 4850, The 4650 only has 128 bit bus which can not use all the Video memory. Its only a midrange card, the 4850 is a high end card, pretty much in the same class as the GTX 260m. I would go with the GT725, Much better preformance and can be upgraded easily..

 

The MSI would run it much better than that HP, the graphics card is much more powerful. Make sure you get the dual core MSI GT725, due to the way WoW works, it will benefit from a dual core turbo'd to 2.93Ghz much much more than it will the extra two processors.
She should be able to run 1680x1050 pretty much maxed out with the MSI, and be perfectly playable, even with some of the more power hungry features such as experimental shadows.

The price will likely vary hugely between sites, but its the P9500/4850 equipped model you're after, in the UK that's the GT725-087UK, I'm not sure if that swaps to US or not. As already mentioned, it doesn't come with a backlit keyboard.

 

Alex put it perfectly, although dont judge the hd 4650 to be a low performer, i believe it tops the 9600m gt and can achive around a 7k score in 3dmark (even with the low memory interface).

 

I can top 7k with the 9600m gt at 1280 x 1024 resolution.

Wow isn't a demanding game, I think the GT725 is a bit overkill for such a game. One could easily buy a cheaper laptop to play it on max. If money isn't an issue, then go get the GT725

 

Agreed darth, granted both are good cards, i suppose buying the gt725 would futureproof a bit more, say if wow recieves engine or graphical updates, the GT725 should last a bit longer, plus i know the MSI machines are flexible when it comes to upgrades not too sure about the HP, there are plus and minus' everywhere you go i guess.

 

Actually, WoW has had plenty of upgrades recently, to an aged, inefficient engine. It's much much heavier on a system than it used to be, you're right, it's not Crysis, but areas like Dalaran can run at 30fps even on my desktop system; maxing out a 3.2Ghz core, and using half of the second.

People have this idea of being this really light game that runs on anything, but it really isn't anymore; it's still lighter than a high end game, but nowadays turn any of the settings up and it will chew a surprising amount of CPU and GPU power.

Now obviously everyone calls different things playable, but to turn your settings up these days; you do need a good PC to run reasonably (20+ fps all the time).

 

I don't really play WoW much but I have run it a couple times with my old level 32 and every area I went to with maxed graphics on 1920x1080 resolution I was getting anywhere from 40-60 fps. Never dipped below that. My internet is the weak link here so I don't play online games much, just wanted to see the graphics / FPS I was getting. I can't say that I explored the more FPS demanding areas that might have come out with WOTLK but I'm fairly confident that there's no way this thing will dip below 30 fps even while raiding with 20+ characters on screen.

Note; I'm on the 212US version (Q9000 quad-core, I never use the turbo feature only high performance / gaming modes and my 4850 is still on stock clocks.)

Been playing Fallout 3 for like 20 hours now, very addicting game and the graphics are great. Stumbled upon the Deathclaw Sanctuary earlier. Luckily I just made the dart gun and picked up the Victory Rifle, Reservist Rifle, A3-21 Plasma Rifle and I already had a Deathclaw gauntlet I made from the F. Scott Trail and Campground. Very fun game, going to pick up the DLC's shortly . 20 hours in and I still got a bunch more quests to do and still haven't explored the whole map. Only level 16 out of 20 also!! Very very fun indeed.

 

There's your issue. The new WotLK areas are MUCH more demanding, and the engine is tougher than before. The areas you likely visited are the original, much less assuming areas. Dalaran, the current hub, is an absolute CPU *****, back when I was playing, most areas would run 60+fps happily even on Ultra, but Dalaran, and areas like Ulduar kicked that to touch. Dalaran often ran in the 20-30fps zone.
The new areas are much more demanding; there's more going on, more particle effects, textures are slightly heavier etc.

 

Seems like everyone wants a video tutorial of applying the thermal paste. I really don't want to do this... Do I have to?

 

Don't worry about it, take a few photos of what the laptop looks like open at different stages; but there are plenty of sites that will help with the actual application. If you take a few picture at different stages, people then have something to work off, which should be fine

 

I think I'll do that. Sorry all, I just don't like making video tuts

 

actually i don't! I just sit it on my desk and it's all good. Reasonable temperatures too (even with oc'ing) and that was before I undervolted my laptop a bit.

It's a great bit of kit the GT725 hey

 

Yeah lambo, no pressure man .

Ive been hooked on fallout lately, i love the fat man , gota get into paradise falls now "without killing everyone" ive chosen to be a bit of a good guy hehe.

I optimised my colour settings etc and the graphics textures now are beaut, i will get some screenies for my desktop methinks hehe.

Im back to eve online, i think i can fluently run 3-4 clients fluently on max detail when in high performance mode.

I play with single client in power saver mode the majority of the time though.

 

yea some pic pls ))))) xxx we love you all

 

Is this the right one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductPrint.aspx?Item=N82E16834152103

 

If you want to keep it cheaper and don't care about blu-ray and you're fine with 1680x1050 res instead of 1920x1200 then yes. Plus, I think the 075US version is gone now anyway.

 

Nawww... I might do it some time within the next few days. I'll post it then add it into my signature.

 

There was a version with a P9500 in it instead, which'd be the better buy if you can find it. That said the P8400 is still a decent chip, especially if it cranks up to about 2.8 under turbo. Just see whats available and the price differences. Either way, WoW prefers a higher clocked dual core to a lower clocked quad.

 

Hey, where did you order Win7 for that price? Is there somewhere to do it for US users?

 

What is this Mipmap Detail Level you speak of?

 

If you open your CCC and have it set as advanced view then click the drop down menu labeled 3D, here you can change all your settings to performance to get the most out of your card. Mipmap is also under this drop down menu.

mipmap defined: MIP maps (also mipmaps) are pre-calculated, optimized collections of bitmap images that accompany a main texture, intended to increase rendering speed and reduce artefacts. They are widely used in 3D computer games, flight simulators and other 3D imaging systems. The technique is known as mipmapping.

 

I'm not sure if you can still get it at a reduced price.. but according to this

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/ne...reorders-begin-in-the-us-canada-and-japan.ars

the deal only went on til July 11th

sorry.

 

Try http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/457250 or

http://www.staples.co.uk/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=,&webid=401704&affixedcode=WW

Although i would warn you that PC World are well known to take too many orders for the stock they have. Everywhere else is now £79.99 (ish)

The good thing is we are getting full retail versions in Europe for this price, albeit without IE8.... but who cares about that

I don't think they really care if US address or not

 

You can also get a version that doesnt include windows media player lol

but yeyyy no IE

 

hello my friends. i was wandering how windows 7 working? we just put the upgrade disk in the msi and upgrade it automatically without loose any programs files folders? also i have x32 home premium ... if i will upgrade it to windows 7 x64? ??

 

No, you have to do a clean install.. which is why microsoft have been taking some heat for using the word 'upgrade'. It is not like going from xp to vista, you have to back up and do a clean install. and i think i read somewhere that windows 7 ships with both 32 and 64bit versions in one.. i am not 100% sure tho, so don't quote me for that.

 

I just got Home Premium activated LEGALLY. Now it runs soooo much quicker than when it wasn't activated. I urge everyone to upgrade to Home Premium 64 or 7 64.

 

hm thanks blazin23.Also w7 are lite like xp ? what we will gain installing w7? also we have 4gb ram in our msi gt725. shall we put 32 or 64 bit???
thanks xxx

 

also we have exactly the same laptop , i just have 330gb hdd and i take more in 3dmark than you.also i have it all stock. 667ram 2.0 cpu and 500/850 graphixs card

 

Is it really that much of a difference that you can physically see it? I'm thinking about pre-ordering windows 7 for myself, especially since I'll be building a desktop when I get back to Germany. Just curious how much quicker it actually is running.

 

I'd always go with a 64bit os if possible, seeing as we have a 64bit cpu. By saying "lite like XP" do you mean proccessor hungry? W7 is much better than Vista, i.e. used less hardware.

 

When I was running 32bit, the welcome screen appeared for maybe 2 seconds, but now it doens't even appear. It just makes the login noise and goes straight into windows. It's ready to use before I can even click start.

 

how i know that my cpu processor support 64bit?? i have everest program for my pc info.also do u know if w7 7600 vresion is the last??

 

lol the MSI GT725 is a gaming laptop. Even my boss's new 13 in superportable hos has a 64bit proccessor.

 

Lenarass - all the Core 2 and Turion laptop chips are 64 bit. The only non-64 bit chips are older models leaving circulation, and the Atom chips.

64bit has been here for about 5 years; it's just people [the mainstream public] haven't been taking notice and advantage (a pity), however the support is picking up, and 64bit Vista and W7 are picking up a lot of fans, especially amongst the 'tech elite'; as in that guy most people know, who knows more than average about PCs; which will help 64bit OS take off, and following that, eventually software to take advantage.

 

the only difference of 32 and 64 is that 64 accept 4+ gb ram and 32 only 3gb?? or there are more diffrerenece? speed etc?

 

64 bit like you say can directly use more memory, however when used properly it can also be faster; the processor can calculate longer calculations in one round, rather than having to split things up for example.
It has to be programmed for though, and a lot of programmes currently aren't, but, and I could be wrong, there are some specialist programmes that do benefit already; I believe Cubase5 might be one of these.

 

i5 insdeat of i7..is comming.. cheap cheap !!!

 

You say Intel is making a core i5? Awesome.

 

Yeah they are, Core I5 are the mainstream parts, I7 are the earlier enthusiast parts. Performance is about 10-15% higher (task dependant) clock for clock over the later 45nm Penryns, at least the desktop models anyway.
I'd imagine Intel will monicker the Extreme edition parts based on Calpella as I7s, and the cheaper ones later on will be called I5 when they come to laptops (somewhere on a desk near you!).

 

for what windows /bit are u talking about??

 

I'm running Home Premium 64bit atm. I would reconmend this to everyone.

 

why you dont recommend windows 7 64??

 

I never reconmend anything I've never used.

 

100% sure that will be faster than hm premium ..anw: