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About what I observer. The game in my case that really pushes GPU temps for me is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl, although I think that's more because the engine is not all that well optimized. (Well that and I run a bunch of mods as wel...)

I just really don't play alot of GPU intensive games, e.g. right now I'm playing alot of Mount & Blade(vanilla), then will likely play some mods...

I should also mention that the notebook runs hotter under linux plus power management isn't nearly as good as turbo batt mode, so I get maybe 1h 40m or so of run time v. over 2h with turbo batt.

 

http://www.driverheaven.net/modtool.php

 

Just what I was about to post in here
(forgot earlier...sorry!)

 

Yeah, I saw you post it earlier in AW forums, thats how I knew

 

So what's the verdict on the Zalman 2000? I have one, but I don't think it's doing the job. Most of the air flow seems like it's in the front and not by the GPU, which is obviously where most of the heat is coming from. I'm thinking of getting the Thermaltake CLN0008 now.

 

New 9.7 drivers got me up to P6425 in Vantage. Link in sig. :>)

 

6000 GPU score from one eh? Hmmm, will definately have to try these on my machine tonight

Mobility Modder vs OEM drivers ....there can be ONLY ONE!

 

Hey Guys, I am looking at changing to Windows 7 64 bit after some positive comments from people on this forum but I want to download the drivers for it first so could someone please point me in the right direction? Someone posted a link to a bunch of them on here once but after crawling through the pages for the last half hour i cant find them! Also is this the easiest way to get these drivers? I think I may have read someone on here saying they just used the driver disk that came boxed with the laptop? is this possible/advised? Anyway, thanks in advance for any help

 

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=135&prod_no=1676

You want to use these as they are more up-to-date than the ones from the disc. Also remember to get System Control Manager from the Utilities page

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=utility&maincat_no=135&prod_no=1676

 

I'm having problems. I continue to lock up playing COD WAW with the new 9.7 beta drivers. I used the mod driver program and followed everything to the word, but nothing has changed. The date on the driver still says 1/8/09. I uninstalled everything and went by the directions again, but then the driver did not install and ccc is gone too.

Does anyone have any word on the webcam app?

 

all the drivers here say vista 32 bit, will they work for Windows 7 64 bit?

 

Yes. I have the all installed on W7 64-bit and they work perfectly.

 

Great, thanks for the help mate

 

Anyone got any ideas on how to get the media control buttons on the touch pad to be lit up permanently, not just when they have been activated? Would be really handy when playing crappy free MMO's in the dark and listening to my tunes!

 

search the folders some of them contains 64bit version .. don't forget to install the o2 memory card crap , otherwise you will see a yellow exclamation mark in "devices and printers" on you computer icon

 

check out the ANTEC COOLER 200 & the NZXT Cryo LX .

 

omg i just installed the moded 9.7 beta catalyst with the last drivers..that catalyst sucks..you can not even chance the theme..why they made it like shi..t ?? ((

 

They've changed it, no idea why as I was used to the old one, but obviously they wanted a more W7 look; the response was the same when they went to CCC from the old panels about 3/4 years ago, a pain now but everyone got used to it. Im not sure why you modded the betas though, the official 9.7s are out now, think theres some 9.8 betas somewhere mind.

 

i dont know why i have beta.i just run the Mobility Modder.NET and then install.difference between 9.7 beta and 9.7official? also is there any chance to change the theme?
thanks

 

Not sure if theres any differences, minor revisions most likely. You can probably get around the new CCC by finding a copy of the old drivers (9.6), uninstall the current CCC and use the old installer to install the 9.6 CCC

 

Is there anyway to get Crazy talk to install to W7?

What files do i need to copy across?

I tried the MSI install folder but no joy

 

All you need are your drivers, just install w7 and install chipset drivers before everything else.

I had no problem with it.

 

Kill the lights during boot up, when windows load they should be off.

Sorry for DP.

Still cant get COD 5 MP 1.5 to work.

Some minor monitor instabilities with multi monitor.

Left speakers getting even weaker.

 

Cataclysm, you might find it interesting to know by just a 400Mhz CPU overclock, I pushed the vantage GPU score of my M17 to 9350. Looks like theres some definate reserves in these/crossfire that faster CPUs can unleash, beyond just the benefit of a faster CPU or we begin talking overclocking the 4850s. Am hoping for 10+K GPU score once I've got an X9100 and can multi-clock it (taking RAM outside the equation).

 

OK.i want to ask something to EVERYone!! why you overclock ?? is there any game that our laptop or that m17 cant play?
thankss

 

Unlocking the potential thats there for free, without reducing the lifespan of the product, or trying to get the equal of a more expensive part, for less. In the right scenarios, like this one, it can make a big difference to performance. There are games now, and games coming that can take advantage of the extra power, in some case it's not lagging at that hectic point in the game, being able to turn up the effects that little more. Either way, its all aimed at extending the useful, and enjoyable, lifespan of your machine, within reason.

What you find useful and enjoyable is up to each person; overclocking is just one way of helping; infact some do it for the challenge. Overclocking a CPU will directly speed up almost anything you do outside of games to; be it driver installs, loading programmes...well you get the idea. There of course are those who take it too far, these are the ones who may inadvertantly damage thier machine.

 

true but are u sure that you dont reduce the life of the product?? coz of the heat..our laptop just have one fan

 

I'd say your laptop is getting too hot. Mine idles at 48/49 degrees while browsing web, with no cooler, just sitting on the desk. And I have NEVER seen the temp over 83 degrees while playing ANY game. If you're temps are over this while gaming, you should replace the thermal paste.

Also, are 9.7 drivers making a difference in temps? I haven't switched yet.

And I was going to post the tutorial about replacing the thermal paste over the weekend but the photos I took were on my brothers camera which he took over the weekend

 

Mine has a few, and life expectancy/heat do go together. That said; if you're careful, you can often get more performance out of a part, without reducing the lifespan to the point it will effect you.

Ie overclocked CPU A nets your 1Ghz free, but reduces your lifespan by 5 years, from 10 to 5. This might affect you.
Overclocked CPU B only goes up 500Mhz, but only loses 1.5 years off the lifespan. It's lifespan is now 8,5 years. By this time your laptop will have been replaced.

Basically it's all about being careful, and trying to get more performance without overtly reducing the lifespan, this is why I tend to prefer not to overclocking graphics cards, as they operate at higher temps anyway and seem a bit more fragile. On the other side of the coin, I've seen overclocked CPUs last 5+ years with no issues.

It's all about heat and taking precautions, be that not pushing it too far, not wedging loads of extra volts throught, and taking care to keep it cool.

 

the laptop manufacture was on april..i dont.i use it less than one month.no need replaceing thermal paste.also now with cooling pad is 41hdd 56-58gpu and 47 cpu..
i think are good..

 

omg thanks for all your info..i just want to ask something more..how we know that a cpu must replace? just count the years we have it or the computer will be slow enought,,?

 

Well its an estimate, an example. Your CPU needs replaced when it dies/errors uncontrollably. Unless overclocked crazily, it tends to be other parts, like the RAM, Motherboard or Graphics cards that die first. Thats one of the reasons MSI have a turbo function that works for the P9500 model. In some circumstances, it can boost performance quite nicely, and modern CPUs are quite hardy.

 

If your GPU is idling at 56-58, thats very, very hot. Like I said, mine idles at 48-49.

 

Really? Mine idles at 54-55 on High Performance setting. Seems pretty reasonable.

 

Thats weird, after using mine for 2+ hours of excel spreadsheeting, mines at a stable 50. Why is mine so much cooler? (On high performance setting of course)

 

Also, anyone seen a difference in temps with 9.7?

 

My GPU idles 41-43C

It is winter here though

 

Thats good news man, if you qx'd up and 4850 flashed, i think 12k barrier can be breached, but its a very risky move

But its not needed, 10k gpu on duo core in vantage is very good

 

my gpu idles around 52-54C, in game the most i have seen it is a about 85C.. and i wouldnt worry about changing the thermal paste just because it's slightly hotter than someone elses. You have to take into account the temps of the room and also, 50-55C isn't really a worrying temp for a gpu on a laptop is designed to be overclocked. Sure, there is only one fan, but it is a hell of a lot more powerful than the 3 fans that used to be in my acer aspire (they were all downward facing.. so did very little when sitting on my desk).

Also, you would probably lose your warranty when changing the thermal paste.. so if it aint broken.. dont fix it

Blazin

 

idle you mean when i am surfing on the internet or just leave the laptop alone for a while ?

 

also lampo i have hotter temps than you coz maybe i live in cyprus you know where we haer 40+ c outside

 

When you leave it alone for a couple of hours.

You'de think so, but you'de be wrong. Just email to confirm, though.

Aha! Thats why!

 

in the control panel i can find some settings on power options Balanced ,power saver and high performance. what these setting do? just setup the britness or can setup cpu gpu etc? thanks

 

Ok seriously! Is anyone have this problem resuming windows? I had to power off button three times after turning it on after a few hours. When you guys shut down do you just close the top or do you put it to sleep?

 

I always shut down. I've also customized in the power options control panel, what closing the lid does. I've selected "do nothing", so that when I close the lid, it doens't go to sleep.

 

They adjust the brightness, as well as the windows visual elements, i.e. the power saver one will disable transparency. I think they also do limit the voltage going to the CPU and GPU. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

That is correct, when i ran 3dmark with power settings on High Performance, i got a higher score than when i ran it with power settings on Balanced.
I think it underclocks the cpu slightly.

If you go into the Ati CCC, and click on PowerPlay, and then press the Eco button (next to turbo) it will change in the CCC, so it can lower the clocks of the gpu aswell.

Blazin

 

Hi again everyone. So I got my second GT 275-74 US back from newegg after they approved the replacement for the last one, it is so stable and cool compared to the last one, I got 10600 on 3dmark06 with my gpu oced 50mhz each Im very happy, getting stable 30+ fps on Far Cry 2 with everything maxed, installing Crysis now Im tempted to see if this thing is stable at 24% oc , you guys think I should try?

 

Hell Yeahh!!

and dont forget to change your ram from 800 to 667, otherwise it will probably crash when it tries to overclock the ram too much.

 

darn'st thing... I had to reinstall Win7, managed to catch a pretty unpleasent virus, which required so much messing about in safe mode, I thought I may as well reinstall the OS. Anyhow CCC got automaticaly installed on windows update, including the latest drivers from MSI.

Weird, I was never able to get CCC to install on the previous installation. I've now modified up to 9.7 and everthings working great.