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Based on your benchmarks, I'd say its worth investing a little time into this...

 

Hell yeah ! anybody else want to try ?
man i've been crying for weeks about low score for my gt725 or gx720 whatever the hell i bought ! . now i'm happy even though it's not major ..

 

Sorry, I have never run any benchmarks on mine, ever. And this weekend, I wanna get 2 tutorials written, to go in my signature. Acutally, I may have a spare sec tommorrow, I might do it then. *FINGERS CROSSED*

 

And how did my rep just go up to 2? I've only gotten one person give me rep.

 

what are the difference between the 2 bios you posted.?

 

secret admirer may be could be lenarass who knows early rep for the thermalpaste thingy

one is old and one is new (which is 1.0U)


NOW it say i have a GT725 ! before it was a fcking GX720 !

 

lol lenarasss is stalking me HELP

 

Crap, I'm getting a "display driver has stopped working and has recovered" all the time while playing games. It's annoying, cuz the game keeps crashing . I'm scared because thats what happened before my XPS M1730 died :cry:

GPU is only running at 70 degrees so its not overheating. I might try updating to the 9.7 drivers, see if that does anything.

 

ok, 9.7 drivers went on fine (which is good because I modded them ), I'll see if it keeps crashing.

 

If they are for w7 64 i'm willing to try em (if you don't mind of course)

 

I'm on 1.0U and my Futuremark is around 5700, so a pretty similar result.

As long as my games run stable, which touch wood they all do, I'm not too fussed.

 

I don't know what's going on, but when I download the zip file it hangs for a few minutes and says starting download. Then after it completes it's empty and can't be opened.

 

Just double checked the link & files and they are fine .. you don't need to unpack em .. just open MSIHQ_tool ( http://tinyurl.com/ltqata) and point it to the A1722IMS.10U and follow the instructions ...

 

the 1.0u is the newest bios?

 

It is indeed.

 

Nah they're on Vista 64, but if you send me the W7 64 .inf files, I'll try my best to mod them for you. I tried once with animaleyes, and it didn't work but I think I'll give it another go. (Sorry animaleyes :cry

 

kool i'll send em to you soon but in the meantime check the latest scores below .

3dmarkvantage - http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=1320532&resultType=19

 

Nice scores man... very nice indeed. Post those .inf files whenever you want

 

I'm still on track to get that thermal paste tut sometime this arvo. It's now 11am over here.

 

hey can you tell me when is the release date of gt729? or its already in the market.thanks

 

Search button is your friend... or going a page or two back in this thread. It has been rumored to come out mid this month or end of this month.
XoticPC has it still on preorder though...

 

The US Model is due out in early September..

 

us model you mean quad core?
also is there anyone here who has gt725 and he going to but a second msi the 729 ?its very beautiful i am thinking about it

omg omg i just saw that thing .. ((((((((((((
MSI GT729 specs..
Expandable up to 8GB DDRIII 1066MHz
ATi Mobility Radeon HD 4850 (Built-in DDR3 1024MB .. 1GB ?

 

You mean you hadn't read the specs yet, and yet you wanna lay down 2+ grand for one

 

There is no eta on the quad core model at this time, only the GT729-248US. This is the WSXGA+ with the P8700, due early to mid september.

 

You're still posting here? Just remember all us at the MSI forums when you're up there posting 50,000 3dmark 06 scores on the Alienware forums. BTW, how is the Alienware?

 

This post is to instruct all on how to apply thermal paste onto the CPU and GPU surfaces, and will be included in my signature.

Please note that I accept no responsibility for anything going wrong with your computer, and remember to ALWAYS read the instructions that come with the brand of thermal paste you choose to use.

Please also note what you are hoping to accomplish. You are trying to create as maximum a contact patch between your CPU/GPU core and the heatsink, filling all of the microscopic valleys, to give you the greatest heat dispersion possible, thus reducing temperatures.

1. Make sure you have permission from MSI to undertake this task, then it won't void your warranty .

2. (See Pic 1) Get your tools ready. I'm using Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste, Arcticlean thermal paste remover (for getting rid of the old stuff), Arcticlean surface purifier, a knife (for spreading the thermal paste), and an LCD wipe (for getting rid of the old thermal paste, as well as wiping off any excess. This can be any lint free cloth. This is for 2 reasons: lint cloths create static, which will harm your computer, and they produce dust, which will reverse the effects of the thermal paste).

(Note: LCD wipe and knife will be unusable after applying the thermal paste)

3. (See Pic 2) These are your targets. The CPU, in the lower left, and the GPU, in the upper right. (See Pic 3) You'll have to remove the fan to get to the heatsinks. It's held down by 4 screws, they're highlighted on the pic.

4. (See Pic 4) Unscrew the four screws highlighted on the picture to expose the CPU core.

5. (See Pic 5) The CPU core is now exposed, and highlighted in the pic. See how much I used? That just stresses how LITTLE you need, especially considering I ended up wiping about half of that off anyway. Remember, all you are trying to do is cover the core with as little as possible.

6. (See Pic 6) This is the CPU heatsink. We now have to remove the stock thermal paste. Like I said before, I used Arcticlean thermal paste remover, and then the surface purifier. I'm not sure what else you can use to remove it; again, read the instructions that came with your thermal paste.

7. Repeat for the GPU core. The GPU core is about 4-5 times the size of the CPU core (bearing in mind mines the GT725 with the P8600), so you're going to need more thermal paste. I'm sorry I didn't get any pics of that, I forgot I had to keep taking pictures . It's the same procedure though, you should be fine . Besides, I can only attach 6 pictures at a time.

8. You're finished. Just put the fan back in, then the back panel back on, and you can boot up straight away.

The best way to make maximum use of this is to boot up, get straight into a game, and when the GPU hits about 70 degrees, shut down, wait for it to cool down, then start up again, and keep repeating this process.

Don't be alarmed if youre temps are a little higher at first. Mine jumped up 6 degrees (idling temp), but gradually made their way back down, until now they're about 1 degree cooler, and this is nowhere near the 200 hours they say to allow for full effect.

Sorry this post is so long, but it's a detailed process. Hope everything went well

If this tutorial helped you, or if there's some way I can improve it, please let me know

 

Phew, sorry bout that long post...

It's been a long tome coming though!!!

 

lambo concrats..also your very polite
hey can you tell me how much degree you think you will drop down?

 

Just installed 9.8 ccc and drivers using driverheaven mobility modder.


By jaxmacfl at 2009-08-14

 

"Catalyst 9.8 includes enhancements specific to Performance Platforms that improve system performance in CPU bound situations. In our tests at 1680x1050 resolutions and higher, ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 cards, and other 2x,3x,4x CrossFireX situations benefit considerably (up to ~50% in FarCry2) when used on a platform featuring AMD Dragon Technology. Titles such as Far Cry2, H.A.W.X., Battleforge, Stalker Clear Sky, Crysis, Company of Heroes, and World in Conflict show the largest gains".


can you confirmed all these or at least one ?

 

I couldn't confirm any of that as I do not have a amd dragon platform. I only have them installed on my gt725 now but they run fallout 3, gta:sa, tdu and tw 2008 great.

 

For those who can't wait till monday , here's the link to the 9.8 driver (none beta) http://blogs.amd.com/play/2009/08/1...r-a-quakecon-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-976 Have Fun !

 

have you done any benchmarks yet ? I;ve installed but it will have to wait.. The football season has just started again

 

na not yet but it seems to be working great so far .. same as you busy with foot which team you support ?

 

Virtually the same as 9.7 in reference to vantage benchmark.


By jaxmacfl at 2009-08-15

Decided not to use 3dmk06 anymore. General concensus is it has outlived its usefulness. Have uninstalled and retired it.

 

Well, I'm sitting outside on a 92F(33.33333333C) day, but in the garage ATM with my 725 running linux. It's a bit warmer in the garage, say 94F(34.4444444C) or so, almost no breeze. (Almost wishing that it was -10F again...)

So today's temps:
44C CPU
54C system
54.50C GPU (aticonfig --odgt, clocks 200 250)

Not bad considering that temps run higher under linux and batt runtime is considerably shorter compared to Vista + MSI's Turbo Battery mode, of course I'd not want to load the machine as I'd probably end up with a puddle of molten sand and plastic...

Getting about 1h 40m - 50m battery runtime under linux v. something like 2h 30m (still) under Vista + Turbo Batt mode(catalyst 9.7). I haven't optimized the linux battery operation, so it's stock Ubuntu 9.04 x86-64 w/catalyst 9.7

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Oh and since someone brought this up a LONG time ago, I've still never seen WiFi dropouts with the Intel 5100 card, and I've got about 5 WiFi APs that I can see ATM not including my own, which is a cheap D-Link DIR-615 model B.) I run in G mode since I have some legacy B devices, and cannot do b & n together.
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[EDIT2]
So, it looks like updating the BIOS to 1.0U may be worth it to gain a little extra performance? Anyone notice any problems with it? (I'm still on the shipped 1.0R BIOS.)
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[EDIT3]
@Lambofreak:
You still getting those display driver has stopped working error? I started getting them a few weeks ago but they only appear for me in 3 games:
Drakensang: commonly
UFO: Aftershock: buggy as hell anyways and caused similar errors with nVidia cards
Mount & Blade: rarely

Ran furmark, Oblivious, wannabe FO3, STALKER SoC, bunch of other games and never had the error and furmark gets the GPU quite hot usually settling around 86C and I've let it run for 20-30m. [EDIT4] also ran memtest+ v2.11 for several hours, no errors. Pimark for a while and no CPU errors.... [/EDIT4]

When I do get thos display driver has stopped working GPU temps are anywhere from 62 - 76C, so not all that warm, so I'm inclined to believe that it's a crappily coded engine or bad shaders or something that's causing the problem. (I also tried catalyst 9.7s using mobility modder and still get the error once in a while but ONLY in those 3 games... i.e. I've never seen it on the desktop in "2D" mode, in other 3D/2D apps, and some other games examples listed above..)
[/EDIT3]

 

Cutterjohn,

How fares ATI + X compositing these days?

 

i have the last bios 1.0U (release date 14/05/2009) without problem!i can confirm that its perfect!
also you said that you had problems with 9.7 catalyst using mobility modder.. can you tell me what problems do you have because i installed 9.7 and now 9.8 with mobility modder without problems at all!

 

Good to hear 1.0U is working great for you .. now about the dsplay driver .. try enabling overdrive and set it to 550/900 and apply .. and try to play a game and let me know . try playing UT3 , Bioshock or gta4 for at least 30mins

 

i never overclocked my gpu and i dont want because i play cod4 cod5 and grid for hours without problem.sorry

 

That's the reason you don't get the driver crashing issues . wether you use 9.4, 5 , 6 ,7 or 8 won't change anything if you use overdrive .. it's not about the driver .. higher clocks makes it crash . the safest is 535/890 ..

 

thats why msi doesnt release 9.8 and we have to mod to use them..i am pretty sure if we try to use stock msi drivers we can oc without problem.also its very disappointing spend 1400euros and can have the last stock drivers. desktop are far better i think.

 

been there done that .. still crash .. for me stock driver is worst when it comes to OC

 

so...omg we cant oc but we really need 550/900 ? i think all games until now our laptop can play them perfect w/o oc..isnt it?

 

Everything except gta4 need one hell of a pc to max that b!tch by the way, higher clocks = better performance

 

higher than stock clocks doesnt reduce the laptop life?? and more overheat?

 

only one way to find out .. mine is usually between 70 and 80 while gaming

 

ok i oc 550/900 with 9.8ccc. i am playing cod4 multiplayer for 32min with 83celcius and not freeze.can u tell me again what problem you take when you oc the gpu?

 

Just updated to 9.8. I'm hoping this will solve my COD WAW freeze up issue. Has anyone installed Prototype yet? It's like GTA meets Wolverine. Tons of graphic challenges that does not lock me up at all like COD. I'm really thinking it must just be that game.