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Yes, the recovery option did start. It said it was going to erase all data in C: and "reinstall" windows. And it did finish properly with a message that windows was installed correctly.

 

Wait a minute.... I thought you already tried 'F3' recovery. I must have missed something. So all is good in the world now? Nice!

 

Oh no, I was responding to Ken's post. I tried that, it said it reinstalled windows correctly, but it doesnt boot. I still get the missing operating system.

When I use a windows cd I can see every partition. There are 4 in total. There is one called Bios_recovery os something like that which I guess is used for the F3 recovery. Another that is called System that is empty. And the other two "normal" partitions where I have all my files.

My guess is that something happened with the System one. Don't know if that one should be empty.

 

Like Ken said, the boot loader may have been fragged.

 

So what should I do?

If I rebuild the volume, what should I do with those 4 partitions?

 

Try insert the Windows Ultimate DVD and boot from the disk and perform Windows startup repair.

 

I tried that. It says it can't repair the error and asks me if I want to send the info about it to MS.

 

Geez, I'd just reinstall the OS and be done with it.

 

Yeah but I dont want to make this thing worse than it is...

So what should I do?
1.-Redo the RAID volume
2.-Reinstall Windows in the first partition
Is that all?
What about that System partition?

 

If you redo the RAID, you will lose all of those partitions, since they live on the logical drive presented by the RAID and redoing the RAID would nuke them all. The system partition is about 100MB right? Windows created that automatically so you can leave it alone if you just plan to reinstall Windows on the original ( C: ) partition. In short, as Striker said, just reinstall the OS to the old C: and you should be fine.

 

Thanks salada2k, I'll try that now. That's just what I wanted to know... sorry if I can't explain myself very well.
I'll come back after reinstalling the OS and tell you guys what happened.

Edit: It says that the installation program can't create a new system partition nor allocate an existing one... ?

 

That's ok. Just trash the old one. As in remove the entire system partition. Please check the size (~100MB?) just to be sure its not something different. Windows will recreate it when you choose the destination partition for the install.

EDIT: Also, if you have none of your data on C: , I noticed in an earlier post it looks like your old C: got nuked, then you may as well delete that parition as well, and then reinstall Windows to 'Unallocated space'. It will then create the system partition (which is a Windows recovery parition containing boot files etc used for recovery) and it will also create the other partition which will be your new C: . After that everything should be fine, but since you're not using the MSI recovery, you will have to reinstall all your drivers manually after Windows boots. Good luck

 

Yep, you should be fine. Also, I'd read up on RAID..... with it's advantages, there are disadvantages too, but it really boils down to user discretion. Do you really need RAID? Just a thought......

 

You were right salada2k... Geez, I love this computer so much that I dont want to mess with it, sorry for all the trouble guys. Windows is being installed as of now. Hope everything will be fixed.

Striker, what are my options if not RAID? I made a backup of the most important files, and I'm reinstalling Windows. You are the ones with experience, so I will take your advices.

 

It will be fine..... but I expect you'll be back shortly with more questions, LOL!



EDIT: I assume your system was set-up with RAID 0. This will provide you some boost in data transfer, but at a greater risk of HDD data loss or corruption. As such, be sure you have a solid data recovery plan. To put it simply, a non-RAID system can simplify your life.

 

You don't need to redo teh RAID volume, just leave the way it is and reinstall Windows:

1: Boot to Windows disk.

2: Delete Windows partition and install Windows to that empty partition.

 

No only for Italy official Notebooks.

You must ask to your local MSI and chek their rules

 

Hi guys. I ran into a new problem.

When installing windows an error pops up. It says something about not the install program not being able to configure windows with the hardware of my machine.

Any ideas?

 

You can break the raid0 array and only have Windows 7 on one the 500gb hard drives setup as the primary boot drive.

For best results doing this you should open the bottom of the notebook and remove the secondary drive;it's the one that doesn't have the label showing.

After removing the secondary drive bootup and press DEL at the first screen. that opens the bios settings.

Is your bios version 1761_30E?It's the current version.

Here you will need to change from RAID to AHCI.

Check the boot order ODD>Primary Drive(name)

Save and reboot.

Now refer to post #4973 for Windows 7 x64 installation on a GT78x
http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...t780-gt783-owners-lounge-498.html#post8177509

Post #3534 has some RAID setup instructions/suggestions
http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...t780-gt783-owners-lounge-354.html#post7976396

If you get a message that Windows can't be installed on the drive I suggest you leave the bios set to RAID with only one drive in the notebook and switch it to AHCI during the 1st reboot of the Windows 7 x64 installation.

This will help for drives that are not recognized when bios is set to AHCI.

 

Oh gawd, not that blinding red avatar again!

I'm gonna go rest my eyes....... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........

 

lol

well i love it, wish my laptop's cover was red and with a sexy logo too. it just has msi on it. oh well could be Acer lmao!

 

Geez..... reminds me of a Toshiba Qosmio........

 

why not Qosmio, not good?

 

I think he is just talking about the colour scheme.

 

yeah, but as you can see i'm curious why he doesn't like qosmio.

its one of the more expensive laptops i saw at bestbuy and considered it before buying the msi, so i am wondering what he thinks of it.

 

Yes, just the color, LOL!

 

yeah i see what you mean, it has 2 tone red stripes
i thought it was specs you meant.

my acer barb was about the specs. low end, not exactly top of the line.

anyhoo, lol

 

I think they are cool looking but they don't do anything special. They are overpriced for what they are. I looked at one that cost $1800 and only had a 6850m in it.

 

You need a Windows disk with SP1, if you don't have one you can download the ISO here:

http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-24209.iso

 

Talk about bad luck. I was on the verge of picking up a 1761 barebone . . . then I dropped a physics textbook on my girlfriend's laptop and killed her screen. Anywho, I'll be taking care of that, then hopefully getting the MSI a paycheck or two from now.

 

I have a few more questions if anyone is able to take a minute and help me it would be great. I've decided to go with a branded model (mainly for the MSI warranty) and make a couple of changes to the base model. As far as I've been able to find, the GT780R-012US and GT780DX-215US are the cheapest base models of the GT780 is this correct? I would like to purchase through Gentech (Ken if we could talk that would be great) and just need some help matching the specs I want with the cheapest customization.

17 inch 1080p screen (glossy if possible for the +$35)
i7-2630QM (i7-2670QM if possible)
8gb of RAM (16gb for +$40 if possible)
500gb or 750gb secondary HDD @7200 RPM (i want to buy a 90gb Corsair Force Series SSD for the OS and about 30-40gb of games from newegg for $110)
the LED keyboard would be nice but not required
Windows 7 Home
cheapest DVD drive available (do NOT want blu ray drive)

What model would be the best match for me with these specs? Is there a 'better' compatable SSD for this rig? Ken anything special you can hook me up with? Sorry for the long post but you guys have been so helpful I had to come back one more time before I pulled the trigger on something

edit: Would I be better off using RAID 0, 1, or without?

 

For the normal gamer raid is not the best way to configure a notebook.

I think the GT780DX-406 with the $100 rebate is the cheapest current model?

With this model I suggest only a wireless card upgrade.

Then,if you want more speed and performance,shop around for the best price and rebates on a SATA III SSD to use as your primary boot drive.The sweet spot for SSDs is 240GB.When viewing benchmarks look at the 16K,8K and 4K writes because it's where 80% of disk access is going to be.

I can't recommend small capacity SSDs not only because they have lower performance write numbers.

After an over provisioned 240GB SSD is formated there's 223GB left to use.An SSD needs to always have about 15%`20% free space to perform correctly.

All GT780DX models now have the i7 2670QM as stock.

DDR3-1333 ram is cheap so load up.

 

The GT780DX-215US is one of the first GT780 with GTX570M, however, we put it on pre-order since MSI may not have any new shipment coming in and it has been replaced by GT780DX-406US with newer Intel Core i7-2670QM CPU.

The best and most popular setup I recommend would be SSD on primary for faster Windows boot up time and program load time, and a rotating hard drive on secondary for data files storage. A single SSD drive perform much faster than RAID-0 with rotating hard drives if it's within your budget.

If you want to discuss more details you can send me PM or email.

 

Regarding the TDE , what does it do exactly

 

Returns the graphics card from it's underclocked state to stock (for the 570M and 580M).

For the 560M machines it overclocks them slightly.

 

Thank you for the replies. Would it be better to use a single larger ssd or to use an hhd as a secondary? I do not need much disk space at all and am looking primarily for speed above space. As for the wireless card upgrade why is it beneficial and or better than the stock option?

 

Guys thanks to everyone!!
It seems that the only thing I needed was the RST drivers...

Thanks to all for your help. My gt780dxr is working again!

 

It you don't need much storage then a single SSD is your best bet, and it is easier to manage a single drive instead of two.

Just don't forget to backup regularly.

 

It really depends on your needs. get a second HDD only if you have a lot of data files need to store.

The stock wireless card is Intel Wireless-N 130 which is only single band 2.4GHz card:

Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 130

The Intel 6300 or Bigfoot 1103 gives you best connection but they don't have Bluetooth.

 

I have no need for blue tooth. I use high speed wireless (n I think?) Would that upgrade have anoticable difference? For 30 or 40 bucks more it's pretty cheap not to get right?

 

Yes, it is pretty cheap not to get, and you may well find you will want to use the 5.0GHz band.

 

I upgraded to the Bigfoot Wireless N-1103 and in my opinion it was worth every penny. I've never achieved a ping below 15ms on Pingtest.net but now I am constantly getting pings of 5ms. My range has also improved and there is no where in my three story house that I don't have full bars.

I do recommend just keeping the stock 500gb hard drive and then adding your own SSD after you get it. hat way you can choose a SSD based on your needs. They are very easy to install so don't worry about it being difficult. It is pretty much plug and play.

Another upgrade I would recommend is the $35 glossy display as long as you don't use your computer a lot near windows which is where the matte display will excel. The glossy display will provide a higher contrast ratio and is capable of displaying colors more accurately which in turn makes your games look a little better. Plus, the upgrade is only $35 which makes it a very good deal.

Don't worry about the RAM. Just keep it at the stock 8gb and if you want, you can always add more down the road. 8gb is plenty for now.

 

Hey guys, I just got my GT780DXR-279US and I'm loving it so far!!!

Is using MSI Live Update 5 still a No no or will is it worth giving it a shot?

 

That sounds perfect jrwingate. dumb question on ssd. does it need to be in the primary drive? our does it not matter as long as it is holding the os? I think some models are cheaper if you select ' none' for primary drive and select the hdd in the 'secondary slot'. Also if I choose to buy my own ssd how do I get windows 7 onto it if there is no windows 7dvd included in the package. It comes pre installed but I don't think you get the physical disk

 

@k2solbri: just my opinion but i really do think the matte (non-glossy) screen works better than glossy, it doesn't reflect windows and lamps around you and the quality is incredible. With glossy you get all the reflections from light sources around you and matte looks just as great with the LED screen.

 

Is anyone else still having keystroke issues? I just got my laptop today and it seems like sme of my keys have to be pressed in a specific way or else they wont register... This is very annoying...

 

Hey Guys,

There's a new version of CCleaner released today v.3.15.1643
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

Make sure you add C rogramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\S-Bar in CCleaner>Exclude

Also today there's an update to Rizonesoft Pixel Repair.
With this little tool, you can detect stuck or dead pixels and also repair stuck pixels. Many tools like this can be found all over the internet, but we could not find a tool with all the functions in one. Therefore, an adequate application was created, called Rizonesoft Pixel Repair.

You can use the Dead pixel locator section on Rizonesoft Pixel Repair to look for dead or stuck pixels. You can also use this section to help you find dirty little spots and dust when you clean your screen. Now, after you have located stuck pixels, try to repair them with this tool. Set the color mode, press go and place the flashy window thingy under the stuck pixel. Pixel Repair will attempt to repair stuck pixels and it will not repair dead pixels.

|MG| Rizonesoft Pixel Repair 0.6.5.652 Download

 

In my situation, no lighting from any source in my house or at my work are seen as reflections on the glossy display and likely won't reflect on anyone's glossy display providing they are using realistic brightness settings. Most glossy displays (like my Samsung TV) have a film applied to the outer panel that will filter out most warm white lighting found in most house holds. As long as you don't have bright halogen or florescent lighting, most glossy panels should be able to filter out normal house hold lighting.

The film applied to matte type displays is made to filter out much brighter light which makes them great for office since fluorescent lighting is used in most all offices. The downside to this film is that it not only filters out external light sources but also internal light sources. This causes a decrease in contrast, lighter blacks and duller colors. It is just the nature of the beast and there is no way around it. This is what makes glossy displays better for movie watching and game playing.

Most TV's made today have glossy displays because there is now technology used to filter house hold lighting. If you remember back in the day when flat panel TV's were becoming popular, most of them were all matte type displays because at the time, that was the only technology around that was able to filter out any type of lighting. Nobody wants to watch TV's when all they see is reflections.

In the end, both technologies have their advantages and it's up to the user to figure out which one suites there usage better. All things being equal, it is just impossible for the matte type display to achieve darker blacks, higher contrast and more natural colors than it's glossy counter part.

 

You can select which drive with an OS you want to boot from by pressing the F11 key at the 1st bootup screen.

You can also reset the boot order in the bios.

No Windows 7 installation Disk????
There's information posted in this forum many many times on how to make a USB W7 installation disk and where to get the ISO file needed.Most recently is only a few pages back.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...t780-gt783-owners-lounge-498.html#post8177509

 

If i change the screen to a glossy screen , will the brightness or any screen function keys still work ?