--->The Official MSI GT780/GT783 Owner's Lounge<---

The SSD Review uses benchmark software called PCMark Vantage x64 HDD Suite to create testing scenarios that might be used in the typical user experience. There are eight tests in all and the tests performed record the speed of data movement in MB/s to which they are then given a numerical score after all of the tests are complete. The simulations are as follows:

•Windows Defender In Use
•Streaming Data from storage in games such as Alan Wake which allows for massive worlds and riveting non-stop action
•Importing digital photos into Windows Photo Gallery
•Starting the Vista Operating System
•Home Video editing with Movie Maker which can be very time consuming
•Media Center which can handle video recording, time shifting and streaming from Windows media center to an extender such as XBox
•Cataloging a music library
•Starting applications

The Intel 520 pulled through PCMark Vantage HDD Suite Testing with a Total Point Score of 72659 and a transfer speed high of 419MB/s while testing in Windows Media Player. To say that this is an excellent score is a bit of an understatement as Intel easily unseated the long standing Vantage champion OCZ Vertex 3 MaxIOPS SSD by over 2000 points which borders on incredible.



*NOTICE how the same model drives in difference capacity perform very differently.

 

can anyone suggest a good docking station for this gt780 ?
Something with usb 2 or 3 would be nice. or just a riser with usb.

there's this one but idk it looks funky with that transparent holder
STAPLES | BUREAU EN GROS
and the 10lbs weight of this 17incher is just a tad close to that max 13lbs it can withstand. if i have to press a key i'm affraid it wouldn't hold under the pressure.

 

Why does every test I read look different. Laptop Mag has the Samsung 830 coming out on top.

SATA III SSD Showdown: Which Solid State Drive is Fastest?

 

The link opens a page where a Canadian postal code has to be entered and not to the item.

Non SF will do much better in CDM when it's set to default and SF drives will be on top when it's set to 0-Fill.

Crystal Disk Benchmark is used to measure read and write performance through sampling of raw (0/1 Fill/compressible) or random data which is, for the most part, incompressible. Many new ‘SandForce Driven’ SSD owners who can’t wait to test the performance of their SSD often grab this program and run a quick test, not realizing that they are testing with incompressible data rather than compressible data used in testing by manufacturers. Provided are compressible (0-Fill) results on the top with incompressible (random data) results on the bottom.

Intel 240GB series 520 SSD with CrystalDiskMark set to 0-Fill compressible data


Intel 240GB series 520 SSD with CrystalDiskMark set to Default incompressible data.


Benchmarks are chosen sometimes to make drives look good and better than other drives.

The Vantage HDD Suite employs apps that many people use and access frequently.

While I can understand the magazine tester's results because he used the default setting ,I just have a hard time understanding all the drives low scores in Vantatage.

 

Samsung 830 Series benchmark:

 

Ken,I see you used a 256GB drive that has 56GB of it used.You are also using the default incompressible data setting.

If you notice the CDM screens I posted for the Intel 240GB series 520 SSD you'll see that thessdreview benchmarks clean drives with no used space.

Scores will always be higher on clean drives not in use as the boot drive.

I often use Anvil Storage Utilities to bench my own drives choosing 0-Fill,46% and 100%.

The 46% is a good mix of compressible and incompressible data

http://www.ssdaddict.com/apps/AnvilBenchmark_Beta11.zip

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on the "stable" part?

What is stable?

 

that's how the site works, try a canadian zipcode like this one: L6E 1A1

 

Add me to the GT780DX-406US owner's club.

Ordered through GenTech this past Friday.

 

My next SSDs will be > Intel 520 SSD for sure


I was told that the performance outperformed 510 and the reliability is awesome too .

Its like Reliability >=< Performance on that 520

 

I just ordered the sennheiser PC360, so wondering now how's the onboard sound card in the GT780's! do I have to buy another USB audio system to get things right?

 

To be honest, I'd rather buy a stable SSD than a fast one.

The access time is the biggest difference between an HDD and SSD. And that's what you want to use.

The read/write is not a significant difference and as far as I know the access time is usually equal with all SSDs.

 

How are the Intel SSDs?

 

Wich laptop has a better cooling system the gt780dxr or the asus g74 ?

 

Which Intel are you interested in?

SATA III 520 series,510 series

SATA II 320 series

Older Intel SSDs

Think of the controller as the engine,the memory as the fuel and the firmware as the injection system.

These 3 set SSDs apart.

The new 520 series have a 5 year warranty that partially justifies the Intel price premium.

The vast majority of current SATA III SSDs employ the same SandForce 2281 controller as used in the Intel 520 series.

Intel uses their own premium grade 25nm synchronous NAND memory(partnered with Micron) and their own custom tweaked firmware.

You're talking cooling on 2 different GPUs.

Asus G74 has the lower performance and cooler running GTX560M.

Asus doesn't offer the GTX570M or GTX580M in their G74 because the cooling would not be sufficient and they prefer the marketing hype of "quiet".

The graphics card in the G74 is soldered in so it can't be upgraded or exchanged.

After your Asus warranty expires you would need to replace the whole motherboard if you developed graphics issues.

 

If you don't want 5.1 surround sound while gaming through headphones, I think the on board sound is perfectly fine. If your going to want surround sound while gaming, the on board sound card will not deliver. If you want surround sound, I would recommend the Sennheiser PC 163D or something else from Sennheiser. I don't really like the PC Periphial companies who make headphones. It's kind of like a Jack of All trades Master of None type thing. I prefer a Jack of one trade Master of one. Sennheiser headphones exude quality.

Anyhow, the on board sound is fine as long as you don't want surround sound. It kind of pisses me off that MSI put some half surround sound card on here without a center channel. How are you going to leave out the most important channel?

 

I am happy you are happy with your computer. But the fact that you are saying the only way to guarantee quality from an MSI product is to buy custom units from specific retailers is quite troubling. It seems to speak volumes about the quality of the product.

 

It's like that with most all computers. Think about it. Would you rather have one guy building your computer and running benchmarks/diagnostics to make sure everything is in working order or would you rather have your computer built on a assembly line by multiple people and none of them making sure everything is working as it should be besides powering it on and off.

These re-sellers he was talking about, not only build (to your order) MSI branded PC's but also Asus, Sager and a couple others. You would have been better off purchasing your Asus from one of these re-sellers as well. You get better customer service and better build quality such as thermal paste being applied correctly. Sometimes, you even get a better deal.

In the end, I would have probably tried using a re-seller after you received a couple bad units from Amazon. For around the same price, you would have gotten a better display, better GPU and much much better speakers. I don't know if it's to late but I would return that Asus to Amazon and use one of the re-sellers for a Sager or MSI branded notebook. You would get more performance for your money going that route. I do believe the 570m is a huge leap above the 260m and I know that a 1080p display is a huge leap above a 720p display.

 

Where exactly did I say that.

My GT780DX was an off the shelf unit.

That's the only way they are sold here.

Importing would add an additional $600+.

I do wish you the best of luck from whoever and wherever you buy from.

 

We already discussed this problem here few days ago.
Open to the realtek menu, swich to 5.1 and you will get the center trough the pink port(mic in)!

Check this out: http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...t780-gt783-owners-lounge-428.html#post8052717

If you want to use the mic port then you need to buy an external soundcard like this one: Creative X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro USB soundcard

 

Does anyone knows a lighter ac adapter for GT780R? My notebook comes with me everyday to the college :S.

THANKS!

 

Just an FYI - I tried searching this site using the link at the top of page one, specifically the one that says "SEARCH THE THREAD HERE". I got the following message from my anti-virus software.

Malicious Web Site Blocked
You attempted to access: "search.mysite.im"
This is a known malicious web site. It is recommended that you do NOT visit this site. The detailed report explains the security risks on this site.
For your protection, this web site has been blocked. Visit Symantec to learn more about phishing and internet security.

 

confirmed -=$tR|k3r=- the search link you posted doesn't link to the search here or at google at all.

 

Sigh. That's what I get on using a free domain/host.

@Striker:

Can you please replace that search.mysite.im link to the original link jetherson .com/nbrmsi584869.htm ?

ALLurGroceries (moderator) said it's okay if another person adds the link. So I can't add the link directly, but you can.

This is from ALLurGroceries:

Thanks!

 

That's cool. Kinda stupid, but cool. I just returned the X-Fi Go USB. It't a waste of money that adds nothing in terms of 5.1 surround during game play. I guess it really wouldn't matter in this case since your only using it for the microphone.

In the end, I think your better off purchasing a USB headset if you want 5.1 surround. The surround sound is no different and you don't have to purchase extra equipment for the microphone to work.

In the end, I don't know why MSI chose to go this route. A proper 5.0 w/mic jack would have been great.

 

Since it's gonna be my first SSD and i live in Brazil, i got the Crucial M4 128Gb at amazon.com for USD$ 149,99.
I believe it's fast enough for what i need.

Thanks all you guys anyway.

 

Yes, you right. But..... I have a speedlink 5.1 headset with mic and a logitech x540 5.1 so its better to buy an external sc....... at least for me.

 

its what i have and i don't regret it, just make sure your bios is set to AHCI , remove all extra HDD's in your lappy before installing windows and all should go well.

 

I wouldn't regret it either. Crucial makes reliable SSD's and the M4 is very nice.

No, I do not own one.

 

Free hosting will get ya everytime.......

Thanks jetherson, I have made the changes you requested, and the search link now seems to be working fine. Now make sure this server stays alive, LOL!

 

i already had an OCZ at the time i bought the M4 so i wanted to try something different, also if there's a firmware bug then it won't propagate since both have different controllers and brands, its just safer this way.

 

Thanks -=$tR|k3r=-!

Can FredS and smitty123 confirm if this new link is okay with them?

Have a great day everyone.

 

yeah it goes to jetherson.com / nbrmsi584869.htm

Nice work with that search engine, might be cool to make it a chrome app

 

If the demand is justifiable, then I will deliver

 

Yeah I see that, I guess because there is no standard used space as a benchmark to test, so they all use clean drive to test the scores.

Thanks for the link.

Thanks jetherson for the search link, nice work.

 

if you build it they will come...

 

hey guys just got my gt783 about a week ago and loving it.the only problem is when the laptop is not plugged in to the a/c power my fps drops to 10-14.when it is plugged in to power i get 40-45 fps.here are my specs....

Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM Processor

Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit

17.3" Full HD Anti-reflective Display (16:9; 1920 x 1080)

NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 580M discrete graphics (DDR5 2.0GB VRAM)

Accelerated performance with MSI TDE Technology
thanks guys!

Full-color programmable backlit keyboard by SteelSeries

MSI Cooler Boost Technology

Dynaudio Premium Speakers w/ Subwoofer

1.5TB HDD (750GB x 2, 7200 RPM)

12GB DDR3 system memory

Blu-ray Disc burner

USB 3.0 for high speed data transfer

HDMI 1.4 (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) output

Built-in 720p HD webcam

Built-in 802.11b/g/n WLAN Card

 

See this post by Ken from GenTechPC
http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...t780-gt783-owners-lounge-499.html#post8178375

 

I just got my new GT783 today too, and everything is OUTSTANDING!

Out of the box 3DMark Vantage & 3DMark11......

Stock, no TDE:





With TDE:





I haven't even begun to OC yet, but it ought to be SWEET!

Lov'in It..... Thanks Ken!

 

Congrats -=$tR|k3r=-!

More benchmarks yey!

 

What do you think is this ram compatible with the GT780DX or not:
Corsair 4096MB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance - CMSX4GX3M1A1600C9
Not so expensive like the hyper X.

 

I see they say XMP ready...so that could cause a problem since there are no 'memory profiles' available in the MSI BIOS. You may find they actually clock back to DDR3/1333.

We would have to test them to be sure, so make sure you have a return policy just in case.

 

Thx! I have 8 days to test them out.

 

I am eager to find out how they work. Please be sure to let us know.

 

My cpu memory controller runing at 1333MHz. It should be a problem, or not.

 

got my GT780DX-277US yesterday..
Seems very ncie so far although for some reason it feels like its running slow a bit. OS programs take a long time to load...perhaps slower than my pc which is a less powerful machine. I also tested diablo 3 and seem to have little lag spikes here and there...I was however unable to see framerate. I ran the angel benchmark software that came with it and it game me a score of about 800 in the 30ish fps at 1080p.

It "seems" like every drivers were installed when I got the laptop but should I be installing them again from the MSI driver cd to prevent issues or is what is on there already good?

 

hello! i'm new to the forums and i've been seriously considering of getting a MSI GT783 but apparently my cousin says that the cooling system isn't as good as the ASUS G74SX. i'm really a newbie at these things but could anyone please be kind enough to let me know how their GT783 works and if it's a better buy than the ASUS? thanks so much!

 

MSI's cooling system is one of the best on the market. Those of us with GTX 570's are maxing out in the high 60's after a couple hours of Battlefield 3. That is insane for a card this powerful. Your cousin's weak Asus has a GTX 560m which is no where near as powerful as the 570m. The 570 is a huge step forward and requires much more power than the 560 to run efficiently. The reason why Asus chose the least powerful GTX card is because it allows them to market their "Quite Cool" technology. If they would have went with the 570/580, there is no way they could have still kept it quiet.

In the end, just take a look around the forum and see how cool our GT780's are running. If you can keep a powerful card like the 570m running below 80, it will last you for a very very long time.

By the way, I use to own a Asus G51vx with a GTX 260m. Cooling on it was atrocious. It would run in the mid 90's.

Unless your a Asus fan, there is no reason to buy the G74 over the GT780/1761. With the MSI, your getting a better display which is 1080p, not 720 like the G74. Lastly, the 560 is no match for the 570. The 570 will last longer than the 560 in terms of playing games down the road.

*Edit* I see you mentioned GT783. In that case, the G74 is hundreds less and is not even in the same league. The 580 destroys the 560. I don't have a 580m but I do know that those who do use it are maxing out in the mid-high 70's which is great for a card this powerful. It's very cool once you compare it to some of the Sagers running 6990m's at 103 Celsius. As long as the 580 is staying below 90 Celsius, your good to go.

MSI uses some of the best heat-sinks and fans in the industry.

 

My 1761 is on its way from Gentech. Monday can't get here fast enough.

 

It will work, but on 1333MHz . I bought the hyperx and I can confirm this.

It is locked because of the CPU , and there are no settings in the bios to change the SPD, freq or timings.

Some people said they have managed to run the ram with the 2670qm at 1600 mhz but I really cannot see now how (bios mods? or some software that forces the RAM or CPU to work at 1600 mhz)....I am also interested on this topic