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SSDs like a lot of other hardware has gone through growing pains.

Probably every brand and controller has had an issue or more.

The only really bad SSD I owned was a G-Skill Pheonix I.It was replaced several times.

I presently own several SSDs with the newest being a 240GB SanDisk Extreme.

The Vertex 3 MI,Corsair Performance Pro and SanDisk Extreme all work without issue in my GT780DX.

I've recently put Intel 520 series in other's notebooks and they work perfectly.

You can't go wrong with any of the current SATA III SSDs and will be hard pressed to see any real world performance difference.

The Intel 520 has a 5 year warranty.This is a great thing to have.

The biggest problem I see in notebooks are the notebook's bios.

Two last generation " Vertex 2 " SSDs I own work great in my desktop and an LG notebook but in the MSI GT780DX they are not seen on a cold boot but are there on a reboot.

Perfect SSDs are not here yet but good enough for what I do on them.

Drives with next generation controllers should start showing up soon?

The OCZ Vertex 4 has the new Marvel Controller but OCZ firmware.A good warranty also.

I'm a big fan of Toshiba toggle NAND memory.Memory is the fuel of SSDs.

 

I think WhatsThePoint has cleared up a lot of your questions, mztestvideos.

Intel does offer a 5 year manufacturer warranty with most of their SSDs.

MSI isn't picky about what SSD you install in your system, they should all work just fine. We've installed OCZ, Patriot, Intel, and Samsung and now Kingston drives in the MSI laptops without any issues.

I am personally running an OCZ Vertex 3 120GB SSD in my desktop system and my wife is running the Samsung 830 series 128GB SSD in hers and we haven't had any issues with either of our drives.

 

Can anyone please advise me with this issue?

 

it doesn't really matter as you can switch P0 and P1 in the bios as your boot drive

 

Thank you very much man
I did what you told me to do but , after I install one of the HDD I couldn't find it in my computer also when I go to Disk management . I got this masage "you must initialize a disk before logical disk manager can access it"
What should I do?

 

well i'm no raid expert but if you took apart the 2 discs you had in raid, and just plugged one of them in , that error message means it can't see that it used to be a raid drive and thinks it doesn't have any partitions on it yet.

if you've got your files backed up on usbkey/backup then go ahead get in Disk management, and create a partition there. it will erase your raid drive and make a new blank one. Of course your other drive will have to be initialized as well.

If you have no idea what to do with your 2nd free drive, could get yourself an external 2.5" usb 3.0 caddy and use your 2nd free hdd in one of those. they're about 15$ on amazon or ebay.

HTH

 

That was very funny, I must indeed now call myself a "Newb" from now on .

Cheers,
John

 

Thanks Peliuz, and to xMAR99 I already had RMA'ed my keyboard back in January (keys were bent and skewed). My question really is having to do with whether I already have the better keyboard or is there another one available for the asking. I also don't want to send this laptop away for the 3rd RMA since December, as shipping costs are expensive and being without it is also a pain. I called customer service Friday and was unable to get hold of a human.

Just to clarify, I have never ever had a problem with any other keyboard on any other computer "missing" keys typed in any of 1000's of computers in over 30 years of experience so I know it's not me.

I notice that the shift key often misregisters unless you press exactly in the center and keys like i,o,t,m etc. are missed if I type fast. I hope this isn't a design flaw with the "Steel series" keyboard, unless by "steel" it means "stealing keystrokes"...

 

Thanks
I have removed SSD and installed the 2 HDD Then changed to RAID to backed up all my data
then, I installed SSD back with one of the HDD then, I changed to AHCI When I try to initialize the HDD I get this " the system cannot find the file specified "
wather I choose MBR(Master Boot Record) OR GPT (GUID Partition table)

 

I currently have bios 30e installed but see there is an update for 30h. When I initially installed the bios, it was set to raid. I now reinstalled windows and set the bios to ahci.

With the new bios, should I download 10h or 30h? Also, since I am unable to get the 2nd hard drive bay working, do you think it is because of the bios?

Thanks

Jim

 

jim, the right bios for you would be the 30H then. After rebooting go in the bios load bios defaults and set hdd mode back to ahci before going into windows.

i have no idea if the 10H would work.

 

Did as you suggested and all works.

any ideas on the 2nd hd? I have it in the optical bay and it works fine but cannot get it to be seen in the bios in the 2nd hd bay?

Thanks

Jim

 

has anything worked in that one before?

did you do as Whatsthe point suggested? to remove the battery and unplug the lil wire to the motherboard for a few seconds ? check last page or a couple pages back for full instructions.

 

Bios 10E has no RAID option otherwise it's basically the same as 30H.

Is the drive missing only on a cold bootup and then appears when the notebook is rebooted?

Try putting the problem drive in the P0 primary drive position(label up)without the 2nd drive in the notebook.

It may like P0 and not P1?

If the problem drive is also to have an OS on it then install it on the drive while the Vertex 3 is physically removed from the notebook.

Presently I have a Vertex 3 MI SSD in P0 and a Sandisk Extreme SSD in the P1 and they work fine together with the bios set to AHCI and my bios boot order.
1st DVD
2nd Vertex 3 MI
3rd SanDisk Extreme
4th Realtek Lan

I've used many drives,traditional and SSD, in my GT780DX and all worked well except 1 Vertex "2" SSD that failed to be seen on cold boots but appeared on reboots.

The Seagate Hybrid XT drives can be finicky.

 

Hey Guys,

I was wondering, what would be the practical thing to do with the 500GB HDD that I will be taking out which will be replaced by my SSD? I suppose I would like to hold on to it and maybe even use it for storage, but will I need some sort of adaptor for external use with my laptop? Thanks.

 

You could get yourself an external 2.5" usb 3.0 caddy and use your free hdd in one of those. they're about 15$ on amazon or ebay.

 

Any idea abt MSI getting the 7970m gpu???

 

oh in the optical bay ok, i must've misread that and thought you were triyng to fit in the normal P0 or P1 bays.

Does it work in the normal P0 and P1 bays tho ?

if not then that's a whole nother problem. but in this case it could just be the sata cable made for just the ODD.

that's a bit out of my field as i've never bought a caddy for mine. i just use an exterrnal usb3.0 drive on the usb3 port and it goes upto 120mb/s althought that's just the drive's limit itself not the port. i actually put an SSD in that caddy once and it topped out at 180mb/s and again that was the caddy's limit not the port.

what caddy did you buy for this ?

 

To clarify, I tried the drive in P1 first and it would not work. Does not show in bios or diskmgmt. I then put the drive in an optical caddy, in dvd drive and it does work.

I get the sense it may the connection in port 1. I did have Ken take a look at it and he said everything looked like it was connected properly.

I sense the only thing I can do to get fixed is send to MSI for repairs? Not sure what else to do?

 

If your drive is not being recognized in a specific bay I believe that would be your only course of action to send it to MSI for repairs.

Aside from the drive being tested in the ODD bay, did you try swapping your primary drive to that specific port/position to see if it would recognize the primary drive?

 

ok so the drive works, its just not seen by windows? the bios doesn't see it in P1 ? thats weird. eliminate the uncertainty by using another drive in P1 and see if the bios sees it. then for windows ...

First i think device manager might be confused, so i want you to see if the drive might be hidden in the device manager.

start by removing the drive from the laptop.

then unhide all devices by following these instructions:
Device Manager : Hidden Devices - Windows 7 Forums

Now once you're in device manager and its all unhidden, click the [+] next to storage volume and delete all ghosted devices, they'll appear in light gray instead of black when you expand the storage volume's [+]

ok so once that is done , shut her down, put the drive in and reboot.
windows will reinstall what it needs when you reboot.

if you still want to use it in the ODD caddy then by all means do so since you know it works.

 

Heihachi_1337 asked if the Vertex 3 works in the P1 secondary internal drive bay where the problem drive won't.In the seconday P1 position the bottom of the SSD will face up.

This is a good question that needs to be answered.

jimlenz,do you have a regular platter hard drive to test in the P1 position that is not a hybrid?

If other drives work in P1 and this one particular drive won't then I'd look at it being a drive problem.

Try what Smitty suggested but if it doesn't work then....
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On the killergaming.com site there's a driver for the Killer 1202 wireless card v6.1.0.305.

I installed the Windows 7 x64 version in my GT780DX with Killer 1103.

I experience no performance gain or lose only a new shortcut design logo.

 

No go with this, still not showing up. Appears that I may have a controller issue. I think I am going to have to box up and send to MSI. I did correspond with them and tried a couple things and they said I should RMA and send in.

Thanks so much for everyone's help. I was hoping not to lose my laptop for a couple weeks.

Jim

 

I noticed something recently that I can't seem to troubleshoot. I've been running 5.1 so that the sub works properly. However, in 5.1 setup, the side pink port is now mapped as an output for the sub, rather than an input for the mic. I have to manyally change back to stereo from 5.1 before the port is mapped to mic. Is there any way around this? (BTW, I tried remapping in regedit, but it automatically remaps whenever the port is plugged in to.)

 

it is meant to do that, if you want to use your mic input for mic use stereo or 2.1

 

Hey Guys,

I'm having trouble getting my external hard drive (G-Tech G-Drive 3TB) to get recognized on my laptop through the eSATA port. My OS is Windows 7, and apparently there are lots of issues specifically around Windows 7 and eSATA. The external hard drive is recognized if I connect through USB, however it doesn't show up at all when I connect through eSATA. My motherboard is a MS-1761. Can anyone knowledgeable of this issue please give me some helpful advice?

 

I know it's meant to do that... i want to know if there is a workaround so I'm not having to switch between 5.1 and stereo all the time.

 

here's a quote about this:

 

i'm doing allot of video conversions and i see mostly just my cpu is used, Freemake handles cuda and dxva for sharing the compression to gpu and cpu, but i don't see it hapenning.

Does this laptop support cuda and dxva features ?

Maybe i'm missing a driver for that ?

 

A couple of new drivers available today.

NVIDIA Official WHQL Verde v301.42
Drivers - GeForce

Synaptics Tochpad v16.1.3.0
Synaptics drivers

Intel WiMAX for Advanced N 6250 v7.0.1002.26
intel drivers pour chipsets Reseaux (Lan) & Wifi (Wireless)

 

I believe you need to enable it in Freemake by going to Options> Acceleration > and check the box : use CUDA.

 

thanks but its on by default.

i contacted the guys at freemake but according to them it should work.

i just installed the nvidia video drivers 301.42, it installed the physx, audio and video drivers.

Doesn't cuda get installed too or is it part of the video driver itself?

 

New GT780DXR-447US 17.3-Inch Laptop is sold at 1191.75 at amazon. I saw there are ten units left.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...?ie=UTF8&qid=1337766500&sr=8-27&condition=new

It's cheaper than it used to be, so I just want to tell you guys.

 

thanks man,

but the synaptics drivers cant be installed, it says device not found.

with or without the previous synaptics driver present.

testing this now http://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/which-touchpad-is-in-my-notebook

edit: well i'll be a son of a gun, its a syntelic touchpad!

well ok, so now the touchpad does turn off when a usb mouse is plugged in (report this bug previously) but the light stays off not on. no matter.

This freaky the install dvds came with Synaptics installed!

What other lil surprises like this and the keyboard resetting its own speed by itself, etc etc, am i gonna find on this laptop... time will tell.

 

Yes, GT780/783 models were shipped with both Sentelic & Synaptic touchpads. This is why in my previous reply, I gave links to what you should see in both 'Mouse Properties' CP's (which readily identifies the touchpad you have installed). Also info related to these touchpads is available HERE, in the 'Stock Hardware Info' section.

Anyhow, glad your USB mouse/touchpad issue is resolved.

 

thanks,

i couldnt find my GT780DXR-279us in that 1st post with the others, but atleast now i know more.

this looks more and more ike the store that sold it to me bought it on amazon.com they have that model number there for the same price.

i only wish i would've found this thread with the vendors before buying it there.

 

Hi all I'm having a very annoying trouble w/ my usb ports,everytime I plugged in a device such as Joystick,flashdisk,modem and my mouse interceptor it will keep going on and off (you know that sound when you plug in a device to your usb port right?that goes on and on).Please help what should I do?

 

I'm finding these 16 series of Synaptics drivers need to be installed manually through device manager.

BTW,when I first received mt GT780DX near the end of November I thought I had the sentelics but as it turned out I have the Synaptics V7.2

Finally got to put my new SanDisk Extreme 240GB SSD into my DX.

 

lol idk. atleast now the touchpad turns off when i plug a mouse in. so i'll take it over the lil slide-scrolling feature anyday.

So how's that new extreme working out? good speeds?

 

I'm a big fan of Toshiba Toggle NAND memory so I have/had a few OCZ V3 MI SSDs that use the 32nm Toggle NAND memory.

The SanDisk Extreme use the new 24nm Toshiba Toggle NAND memory.

It benches very fast in my desktop and somewhat less in the notebook but still very fast.

There's no OS on it yet.I'm waiting for the Windows 8 Consumer Release Candidate to come out during the 1st week of June.

 

CUDA support is included in nVidia drivers, it's the applications such as Freemake needs to enable CUDA support.

 

nice speeds, the sequencial write speed is very good and uncompressed too

 

battery calibration utility, what are your thoughts?

 

The utility states that MSI recommends it be run once every 3 months.

I run it every month or two when I remember.

I'm almost always on AC Power with the battery inserted.

I rarly do anything on battery power.

I also try to run on battery once a month down to about 10% remaining charge and then plug back in.

I'm surprized that the Battery Calibration Utility is not on the new GT70 and GT 60 utility downloads.

The Cinema Pro II is not there also.

 

Info on this can be found HERE. The user manual states, " to optimize the life of battery, we suggest that consuming the battery power completely once a month is necessary"..... and the battery calibration utility is ideal for this purpose.

 

I have the same problem but mine is linked with the ac adapter slot being faulty - I have to position it very carefully in order for it to start charging and sometimes it will switch quickly between charging and battery before finally switching off which I assume is due to a short out.

I'm going through the RMA procedure but I read this in the terms:
Terms and Conditions

Has anyone else had the same problem?

Does anyone know if they refuse to repair it for free what sort of charge they might look for to fix it?

 

Information states that "battery calibration is a lengthy process (a couple hours)". This is...... yea. While it might take a couple of hours, mine took nearly 8 hours to complete. In full disclosure though, I found out this morning that I left the lappy in power save mode, so maybe putting it in high performance mode would have made it take less time.

 

good info, thanks guys

truth is i leave it plugged in also 24/7 except the rare occasions i have to bring it with me in the downstairs room for work, that's when it drains the battery i leave the brick upstairs.

now that summer is finally here i'll be using it outside on the balcony a bit more which should accomplish the same results.

 

Are you handy with a small soldering iron?

If you take out the graphics card the ac adapter plug on the motherboard is accessible.

 

What is the latest model of GT783?
Are they available with 675 or 7970?