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    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. Rhadamanthis

    Rhadamanthis Notebook Evangelist

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    yes yes i have fixit butm after night when reboot, notebook died, black screen on power up...ok i have reset ec but nothing...i have unmount al storage , cpu , big battery , mxm vga and ram for 3 hour , mount all and now pc boot normally.....strange

    one question, if i would to change battery cmos?????
     
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    Hello.

    Quick question, I have a GT780R and I want to upgrade its graphic card from GTX 560M to GTX 770M.
    I have read the following guide too, although it is for GT780DX, not for GT780R
    My question is, which graphic card should I buy, the blue one or the green one, what is the difference...

    The blue one> New NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M 3GB DDR5 MXM 3 0 Type B for Clevo Alienware MSI | eBay
    The green one> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M GTX 770M 3GB DDR5 MXM 3 0 VGA Video Card for Laptop | eBay


    GUIDE by wreelsw
    Meaker is leaps and bounds more knowledgeable than I am when it comes to upgrading your video card but if you're interested in the GTX 770M, that card will work. I just upgrade mine a week ago and this is what I did.

    1. I purchased New NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M 3GB DDR5 MXM 3 0 Type B for Clevo Alienware MSI | eBay
    2. I purchased OCZ Freeze Extreme Performance Thermal Conductivity Compound | eBay
    3. I purchased Koolance 0 5mm Thick Thermal Padding 10 x 10 Cm | eBay
    4. After all materials were delivered, I installed the GTX 770M, spread the thermal paste on the GPU.
    5. Then I removed the old thermal pads from my original GTX 570M heatsink and replaced them with the new thermal pads that I ordered.
    Note: I made sure I matched up on the heatsink thermal pads with every black chip and capacitor on the GTX 770M. It's very important that you pay close attention where you put the thermal pads, since it's slightly different than the chip and capacitor lineup of the GTX 570M.

    6. You only need to do this if you're running Windows 8; which I am. I followed Method 1 here How To Disable Driver Signing In Windows 8 | Windows 8 Drivers to disable driver signing.

    7. I Downloaded the modified INF file and driver from here LaptopVideo2Go: Drivers
    Note: Right click on the INF link and do save target as and give it the name nv_dispi.inf

    To install:
    a) Extract the driver to a folder.
    b) Copy the nv_dispi.inf file to the Display.Driver folder of extracted driver.
    c) Double click the setup.exe file of the extracted driver and do a clean driver install.

    That's it! That's all I did. No physical mods needed and the card works great! Hope this helps.
     
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    ezsolt Notebook Geek

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    Hi all, im new to the forum and in need of help. I'm from the UK and have the MSI GT780DX 603-UK model, unfortunately when I close the screen the plastic surround near the hinges have cracked leading to the brackets coming away from the screen, I think I need a new plastic surround and possibly screen.
    Any ideas where I could find these in he UK, thank you in advance.
     
  5. WhatsThePoint

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    Welcome to the forum.

    If you are not handy with disassembly of the notebook to see which parts need replacement and to do the work yourself I suggest you take the notebook to MSI service center for the repairs.A rare few people have had the same issue.

    MSI UK - Support

    If you are looking for parts contact NBR member majstermsi
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/member.php?u=445719
     
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    I would suggest the same. Msi plastics are hard to find.
     
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  7. Rhadamanthis

    Rhadamanthis Notebook Evangelist

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    hi guys i want to restore my mei firmware engine to default msi 7.0.4.1197

    any one help me????

    Zippyshare.com - Win32.7z

    go flash.bat (don't worry, dont flash anything, just save your mei file in a file)


    i have linked tool for saver your mei engine (if you dont have touched) shared me a old.bin file

    please
     
  8. Dufus

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    Why don't you just download the older BIOS and extract it from that?

    http://download7.msi.com/download_files/bos_exe/1761_10H.zip
     
  9. Rhadamanthis

    Rhadamanthis Notebook Evangelist

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    Not sure what you are asking so sorry if the answer isn't what you are looking for. The default for the ME region is to be protected so to flash you need to disable that, maybe through a BIOS setting, EC setting or GPIO setting.
     
  11. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    There hasn't been any updates for the ME (Intel Management Engine) for your laptop.
    It is protected as Dufus said, and you will need an unlocker (EC/GPIO) to unlock and to update it.
     
  12. Rhadamanthis

    Rhadamanthis Notebook Evangelist

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    there are... i stay with my 7.1.60.1193

    i would old rom based for experiment. help me? just run flash (backup your mei existing, stop, after uplkoad me file old.bin
     
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    It's not that simple, the ME is tied to the BIOS as well as the chipset. There are many discussions about this at another forum.
    Even if you succeed, the benefit of upgrading ME is none to minimal.

    If you want my ME ROM, I can extract and send it to you but it's not going to do you any good. And we don't even have the ME unlock tool.
     
  14. Rhadamanthis

    Rhadamanthis Notebook Evangelist

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    ok kevin with tools that i posted, generate old.bin file than share me . you are gently (if you have msigt780dxr)
     
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    Svet can provide a bios updated to the latest firmware.
     
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    Rhadamanthis the BIOS from the MSI site I linked for you already contains ME 7.0.4.1197, why do you want to go to the trouble of getting someone to extract it from their working BIOS?

    If you want to seperate the ME firmware just delete the BIOS region from 0x180000 and remove the descriptor region 0x0 to 0xfff.

    If what you are trying to do is just a ME7 update then this was discussed some years ago on HF. Unfortunately that thread has been removed, don't know why, there was a lot of useful info there.

    Here's a cached copy of ME firmware updating [H]ard|Forum - View Single Post - Official ASUS BIOS and Program Updates It should be noted this was posted shortly after an Asus Rep had said it was impossible to update ME Firmware.
     
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    I asked only a pleasure, if quqalcuno of you has the stock bios without updated mei and was the version that I want, I just want a backup x experience of things since I have not done at the time and I meeting with all the mei-level firmware updated to 7.1.60.1193.
    I posted the tool, if someone wants me to settle as clicking the file flash.bat not flasha vs. machine but nothing on your backup in a file and nothing else. anyone upload it for me please? I'm not asking for the moon, a courtesy ...
     
  18. lt_yao

    lt_yao Notebook Guru

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    Well there we go.

    My PSU finally died. Was not sure why my laptop was restarting at random intervals when gaming. It was artifacting with DX11 games, thought it was the GPU, still could be mind you, but after running OCCT, PSU test, it restarted, then ran a GPU test, it restarted, ran a GPU test again and the PSU died, now the laptop won't charge.

    Not sure why my laptop breaks on my so much, it's the 3rd time I'm bringing it to the warranty center.

    Edit: Well the charger is working again, so must be the GPU.
     
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    Both could be having issues.
     
  20. WhatsThePoint

    WhatsThePoint Notebook Virtuoso

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    My GT780DX was hand delivered to the MSI notebook service center here a week and a half ago with graphics issues.

    I had purchased an extended 3 year warranty when I bought the unit 26 months ago.

    I put all the stock hardware back in before giving it to them.
     
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    When you ovverloaded your system with stress testing applications, it could have triggered the over-voltage protection from the AC adapter which caused the system to shut off due to no power.
    Battery couldn't handle that kind of drain so that was a complete shut off.
    So the problem could still be related to your GPU. Can you also verify if this is the right AC adapter for your system?
     
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    thanks all member forum msi gt783dxr, thanks very apprecied at user ezsoft that share with me old.bin that i would
     
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    Rhadamanthis Notebook Evangelist

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    8 gb 2133 corsair vengeance 10-10-10-27 1T vs 16 gb 1600 9-9-9-27-1 kingston hyper X win7 sp1 64 bit, cpu 2760qm

    mem lettura 27106 -------------------------------------------------------------- 23262
    mem scrittura 28616 -------------------------------------------------------------- 24580
    copia in memoria 27073 -------------------------------------------------------------- 23217
    latenza memoria 54,6 ----------------------------------------------------------------- 59.4
    cpu quenn 40052 -------------------------------------------------------------- 38897
    cpuphotoworxx 14683 -------------------------------------------------------------- 13421
     
  24. smitty123

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    looks good Rhadamanthis, does it feel faster in games and windows ?
     
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    i loose 3-4 mb of velocity but i have double ram amount :)=
     
  26. smitty123

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    can you show cpu-z memory & SPD screenshot plz ?
     
  27. WhatsThePoint

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    More ram is almost always better than a lesser amount of ram with faster timings.

    MSI notebook service called yesterday stating they will replace my GT780DX motherboard,graphics card and 2 of my 4 memory modules.
    Hope to get it back soon.

    The service center technician stated that the graphic card issues,in his opinion, were caused by using the non MSI drivers from geforce.com.

    I informed the technician that MSI hasn't posted a new Windows 7 graphic driver for my model since December,2011 and August 2012 for Windows 8.
     
  28. smitty123

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    Wonder what he meant by that.

    Going with his premise, is Nvidia idling the gpu just low enough to stay at the ready for those moments we need speed ? thus using the card even while at idle. hence why optimus is important in laptops.

    They say newer drivers always get the most of the hardware but does that mean they use some kind of code to keep the gpu idling but primed to respond to the demand in a split second faster than the older drivers.

    i for one am not uncomfortable with the geforce drivers from nvidia themselves, but it does bring to mind the debacle of the versions after 3.14 that kept the gpu hotter than the 3.14

    i would love if MSI would issue a recall for our machines just to add Optimus. Of course that means changing the mobo but i'm ok with that.
     
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    Nvidia have had some funky driver issues but i doubt it was the cause in this case.
     
  30. WhatsThePoint

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    MSI notebooks are sold here with and without Windows installed..

    My GT780DX shipped without Windows.

    From day 1,26 months ago,I've used NVIDIA GeForce reference drivers beta and official WHQL

    On Windows 7 314.22 was the latest version that doesn't result in a graphics card kernel crash.

    On Windows 8.1 I was doing good with 331.93 beta and 332.21 WHQL

    For 26 months I've used MSI utilities but the drivers were mostly the newest releases posted on station-drivers and geforce dot com

    My 2nd and 3rd year of warranty is from the reseller underwritten by AIG.

    This extra 2 years of warranty was offered for $20 if the notebook was pre-ordered during the 1st 4 days.
     
  31. smitty123

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    how does that work ? is it just that particular reseller that offers that?

    ps: i think you meant registered instead of "pre-ordered" in 1st 4 days ?
     
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    Nope,preordering started on Nov 1st 2011 here for the GT780DX with i7 2670QM with delivery starting on Nov 20th 2011.

    So if you ordered it on Nov 1~4 there was the $20 option for a second and 3rd year of warranty.

    I also got upgrade from 8GB of ram to 16Gb,Steelseries mouse,mouse pad and headset plus a keyboard skin and a screen protector free.
     
  33. smitty123

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    ah so its a store promotion.
     
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    Yeah,from the reseller I bought from.

    Not long after I bought it MSI Korea domestic warranty on the Gaming Series went from 1 year to 2 years.Global still only 1 year.No ACD warranty here.

    If I had to pay for the repairs that are presently being done I surely would not do it

    The MSI service center installed Graphics Card and 2 ram modules is close to $400.I don't know what
    the MB cost is yet.
     
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    I have a MSI GT780DX-406US with 570m...whats the max highest I can go? Either with stock heatsink or changing of heatsink?
     
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    You can use your heatsink and upgrade the graphics card with a Clevo GTX770M and use the modded drivers from laptopvideo2go.

    The CPU can be upgraded as high as an i7 2960XM or the older i7 2920XM

    Only you know whether the upgrades are worth the cost vs saving for a new model down the road putting together the upgrade money plus the GT780DX sale money.

    The motherboard,screen,drives and other essential parts are 2 or more years old.
     
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    The HD7970M is the fastest option.
     
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    Hi there guys!

    What method do you use when repasting your CPU? Spreading with a credit card or small dots over the cpu core so the headtink squezes them?

    I tried the credit card method but i was not able to cover with paste the 100% of the core (maybe 95% or so). Also, do you also apply some paste to the heatsink copper?

    Thanks in advance.
    Regards!
     
  39. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Best way is the pea size in the center and only on the CPU not the heatsink. IC Diamond has a nice page on why you want to do it that way Application
     
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    Thanks for your response. The thing is that, our CPU die is not square, it's rectangular in the center of the chip. Then a small dot may cover the whole rectangle but also other parts that should not be touched bu the TC, right?

    Regards.
     
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    For a rectangular die you should go with the line method, you dont want to put too much that it overflows to other parts, but if it happens most thermal compound is non conductive. Is there a brand you're using?
     
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    I'm using Arctic Silver 5. So just a small line through the rectable, is that it? :)

    Thanks for your kind help.
    Regards.

    Picture here: Intel_dual_core_i7_2630qm_sr02y_notebook.jpg
     
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    i think a picture of the cpu would be a good thing before we can really say
     
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    I always use the surface spread method when repasting.

    For me,the dot and line application methods never achieved the excellent results the surface spread method I describe did .

    Arctic recommends the surface spread method.
    http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appmeth/int/ss/intel_app_method_surface_spread_v1.1.pdf

    After cleaning all the old paste off the chips and heatsinks using 100% Isopropyl alcohol(don't use rubbing alcohol) or commercial TC remover, I spread a small amount of the new paste with a finger covered in plastic wrap.over the entire chip and heatsink area that covers the chip.

    Then,using the straight edge of an old credit card,I squeegee off the excess thermal compound.

    The TC is only needed to remove the air that is trapped in the pores of the metal,machining marks and unflat surfaces.

    Air is a very poor conductor of heat.

    The more metal to metal contact between the chip and heatsink the better the heat transfer will be....thus better cooling.

    ****Don't use more TC than is needed..

    AS5 is the only TC I know of that has a curing time after which the best results occur.

    AS5 can take up to 2 weeks to fully cure.
     
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    Yah thats all you really need to do. Just be sure to not take off the heatsink once you've put it on as that will cause air bubbles. Once you've got everything back together stress test it to make sure the temps are OK. Prime95 is a good program to use.
     
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    i'm having a problem with the hinges on my screen

    it has always been hard to open and close the screen, that was always the case but now the screen's bezel is cracking and bending at the hinges when i try to close it or move the screen around.

    and its really wobbly when it's open/vertical.

    i think one of the screw holders/ring thing has gotten loose inside or idk.

    is there a way to fix this ?

    i'm thinking some kind of metal/plastic glue, is that strong enough or do i have to change the hinges or something ?
     
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    The 2 notebooks I've seen with hinge issues appeared to be from the screws pulling out of the plastic.

    The screws themselves might of not of had deep enough threads to cut into the plastic.

    If you can remove the bezel and the touchbar you'll expose the hinges. to view the problem area.

    See how many screws ripped out and if you can fill the holes and/or use slightly wider screws with deeper threads to cut into the plastic in order to to secure the hinge to the lid and base.

    The screws behind the rubber covers in the lower corners of the bezel are also used to secure the hinges
     

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    Good idea, i'll have to open the bezel and see what happened.

    Lepage plasticwood filler could fill in the holes, then use the same screws. if i can't find deeperthreaded screws.

    As for the hinges being tight to open and close, is there something i can do to loosen that up ?

    my thinking is, if i leave it as it was, it will be too much pressure for the screw holes.
     
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    I still don't have my GT780Dx back from MSI service center so I can't offer too much more right now.

    You could try some gel type lube on the hinge springs.

    I remember a lube called STOS a lot of years ago.It was originally made to lube the moving parts of firearms but works well on a lot of other moving parts.

    STOS means Slicker Than Owl Shi*
     
  50. smitty123

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    lol i'll have to try that

    thanks man
     
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