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    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. epicmeatwad

    epicmeatwad Notebook Enthusiast

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    You might be thinking you were replying to me :) Soon as I figure out where the gpu chip is i'll get back to you. Thank you very much for the response, I really appreciate it.
     
  2. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Gotcha, this one doesn't have iGPU as patrykp8 said.
    But the behavior does look like either AC adapter, or PCB itself.
     
  3. epicmeatwad

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    It was fully charged when it shut itself off, does that make a difference. And this is a new ac adapter as well. my original crapped out around 6 months ago and I bought a brand new one. What is the PCB? What do you recommend I try next?
     
  4. Johnny13laze

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    Hello everyone,

    I'am trying to upgrade my MSI GT780DX-406US (Nvidia GTX570M) GPU to 'Nvidia 3GB GTX 770M MXM 3.0', my question is will I still need to update BIOS and Heatpads/heatsink? Currently I will be purchasing:

    GPU - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nvidia-3GB-...863277?hash=item2a5bce262d:g:c0kAAOSwhcJWQodF

    Heatsink (if recommended) - http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GT60-GT...391995?hash=item4647beb7fb:g:j8EAAOSwuYVWm6dn

    If there is anything I'm missing or need to buy please advise me (not much of a tech savvy guy). Tnx All !
     
  5. vincent sham

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    so ive got a 7970m from an old gx60 and was wondering about wether or not it would be fine to plug straight in oor not.
    The vBIOS on my 7970m is 015.024 but ive read i need the 015.017 for plug and play will i still need to do this even though the GPU vBios is an MSI version?
     
  6. masterlink2002

    masterlink2002 Notebook Consultant

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    I Did same upgrade just need heatsink and the gpu and you should be gold if it comes with thermal pads
     
  7. wilx27

    wilx27 Notebook Enthusiast

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    So this happens, I already bought a AMD FirePro M6000, unfortunately there was no sign to be working replacing on it. After turning it on the power turns on fan goes on, I can swith the keyboardlits, still the screen is blank , afterwards it turns off. :( Is there somenone who could help me with this issue? :( I'm really hopeless with this. also do you think guys I just need to update my VBios(even though I dont have any idea to do this)?
     
  8. majoho

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    Bought a gt780 from someone that gave up making it work 100%, it came with three video cards the original 570m a 670m and a 970m.

    The issue is that under graphics load (like benchmarking) the computer will lock up, it can't be turned off so I have to remove the battery. When the battery is put back in and you turn it on, it doesn't start instead the power button will blink in 5-10 secs intervals but after a couple of minutes it turns on and windows boots.

    I've opened the laptop and cleaned the fan and re-applied thermal paste and, neither GPU nor CPU gets hot at all.

    Could it be some other component overheating, not sure how hot the intel chipset gets, or maybe a defective motherboard?

    The power supply is 180w one so I don't think that is the issue
     
  9. masterlink2002

    masterlink2002 Notebook Consultant

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    Are you sure the video cards you are trying to install have msi vbios
     
  10. majoho

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    Yes they have.

    --

    To clarify everything appears to be OK, there is no problem with the cards under low load, and they all have a MSI bios, the 970m appears to be a clevo flashed with a MSI bios the other two I think are MSI cards.
     
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  11. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    A H/W lock up behavior may indicate a defective main board. Something like a cap or resistor could have been damaged, or missing on the main board which causes the issue you were having. Unfortunately, you can only verify this by using another main board which you don't have, so it's probably better to have MSI's RMA tech to inspect the issue through OOW RMA service request.
     
  12. masterlink2002

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    ok the 670 won't work in it for some reason the 600m series had problems working in that generation of system i know the 700m series worked great. the 570m always ran hot in the system and usually died. not sure about the 970m in that system no experience with that one. like i said had same system i dropped a 770m in it and it was fine
     
  13. majoho

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    All the cards work perfectly fine in the computer until under heavy 3d load, and the 670m is the exact same GPU as the 570m except it's clocked a little higher.

    Anyway, I basically got the laptop+GPUs for what a new 970m costs so I'll just sell off the parts, thanks for the replies.
     
  14. James D

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    And 670m? Doubt it would work totally fine.
    BTW was it eBay?
     
  15. majoho

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    No I bought it from a person on a hardware forum.

    Why wouldn't the 670m work, it's the exact same card as the 570m, it's just clocked a little higher but with the same TDP (as far as I know).

    All cards exhibit the same problem, after some time in a game the laptop locks up and all of the cards otherwise works fine.

    Anyway, I put the 970m 6 GB in my GT72s to test it and as expected it works without any issues, it has twice the v-ram of my own card and has the sli-connector other than that they are identical.
     
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    I wonder if anyone is still reading this forum all these years later! :)

    Recently upgraded to another MSI based system and put my old GT780R into service a a mini fileserver of sorts. My older Dell 1720 was doing this duty and has a USB 3.0 card plugged into it and hosted a standalone 4TB drive as well as a JBOD with four drives.

    Since the 780 has 2 USB and 1 eSATA, I figured this would work in that role as well. So I hooked it up and everything "seemed" fine, all the drives showed up in USB 3.0 mode. However when I actually try to interact with them to copy files, I get "invalid operation" errors (on all the drives on the JBOD) - the standalone 4TB works fine.

    Is there perhaps something about the 780R motherboard and that USB 3 port that would prevent the JBOD from working properly? I tried with the eSATA connection, but that only let it see one of the drives in the JBOD. Apparently "port multiplier" needs to be configured in the BIOS, but I saw no such setting.

    Am I out of luck using these drives via the 780 or is this some fix I'm missing?
     
  18. masterlink2002

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    try an unlocked version of the bios that may give you that option
     
  19. l_scheres

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    Well after many years it looks like my 570m inside the gt780dxr-095us is dying. Ive got green dots all over the screen. I know a while ago when i looked there were issues upgrading to a new card. Is that still the issue? i 'd love to get a 970m and toss it in there. Thanks!
     
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    I droppeda geforce 770m in mine and it ran great
     
  21. digitium

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    I just completed upgrade of my MSI GT780DX (MSI-1761) to GTX980M and it works great with a modded original heatsink. The MXM upgrade kit had a heatsink for a different model of MSI...
     
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    Did you have to make any changes (video BIOS, modded driver, etc.)? Or was it just plug and play for the most part?
     
  23. digitium

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    I didn't do the work myself. Paid for the service at a company and they did it all.

    However, based on what my conversation with the tech, most of the work they did was to do with the heatsink, to ensure that sits well with the new card (chip layout was a little different).
    and I don't think any bios or drivers were updated (my Nvidia drivers were already one of the latest), as was my BIOS.
     
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    Gotcha. In any case, very cool that it's working. It's a nice upgrade (I'm sure you knew that already, though).
     
  25. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Nicely done.
    It's not just the heatsink, but also the thermal pad and thermal compound.
     
  26. snowmanboy

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    Hi all.

    Around a year ago I upgraded my mobile graphics card to a nVidia GTX970M in my MSI gt 780 dxr. I was running windows 7 64 bit at the time and had to download modded drivers from the laptopvideo2go website. I recently upgraded to windows 10 and I am still using the old modded drivers. Is it possible to use the current nvidia drivers now that i'm using windows 10? Is there some sort of tweak or anything? or am I left with using these old modded drivers forever? Thanks in advance.

    -Nick
     
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    Current drivers are good, gtx980m here doing well
     
  28. digitium

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    I think QC on Nvidia Win 10 Drivers are good.
    Have been allowing the drivers to update every now and then and nothing fails...

    In fact I realise for the GTX980M, I can "manually" set the GPU to 1080MHz (using Nvidia Control Panel) and it's been been running really smoothly. I run SETI@home 24x7 and everything is working wonderfully.
     
  29. snowmanboy

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    I downloaded the latest nvidia driver 368.39 and tried installing it but the install failed. The installer tells me it cannot continue "the graphics driver could not find compatible graphic hardware". Is it not recognizing my card because I installed modified drivers from laptopvideo2go?

    Digitium, what do you mean when you say QC? Are you using a different driver other than the latest geforce game ready driver off of their site?
     
  30. snowmanboy

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    sorry for the double post
     
  31. zipperi

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    Are you sure you downloaded the right version? Might depend on your card's hardware ID if it fails. If you needed a modified inf earlier you probably need it still. You probably could use the older modified inf and just edit the inf version number.
    ...ok, this is from 368.25 mod.inf - just changed the version.
     

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    Thanks a bunch zipperi. I just made way out of town this morning and I don't have my laptop with me to test out the driver. Will do when I get back on Monday. Thanks again man. I'll let you know how they work out.
     
  33. digitium

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    I just update using the Nvidia provided utility and it works
     
  34. snowmanboy

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    I went ahead and installed using the 368.25 modded .inf you provided me. I am curious how you modded the .inf file. I tried to compare the modded .inf with the nvidia .inf and I could not figure out the difference. Is it possible for me to mod the latest nvidia driver .inf myself and have it work? Thanks again man
     
  35. zipperi

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    That's the general modified inf from laptopvideo2go.com which should have all possible card IDs - new ones are added as the IDs have been revealed. News about new versions can be found at http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/1-news/
     
  36. Wire55

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    So my gt780dxr may have finally bit the dust. It started randomly restarting without any warnings whatsoever. I could be doing absolutely anything on it from it booting up or playing a graphically intense game and it would just restart without a warning. I came here because I don't know where else to go and I don't have the money to replace any parts if it's a hardware issue. So, can anyone help me out here?

    Thanks,
    Wire55
     
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    You can try to remove the defective GPU and run off the Intel graphics.
     
  38. James D

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    Try stresstesting it. 3D Mark and Furmark for GPU, Prime95 for CPU. Or AIDA.
    You can't just take out GPU, only to upgrade for 80+$ on AMD m6000 FYI.
     
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  39. Wire55

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    I will try this out tomorrow when I have time.

    The problem is that most, if not all, of the time, it doesn't get past the login screen before restarting.

    To the both of you: It will run just fine running on battery but has issues when it's plugged in. I know it's not the power supply, or whatever it's called, because I bought a replacement recently to figure out if it was the issue and it wasn't. This is something I should have put in my original post but I didn't think if it then, sorry.

    Thanks,
    Wire55
     
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  40. James D

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    When on battery turn AC on and immediately set Power saving power plan.
    Also use Nvidia Inspector to lower clocks of P0 to the number of P1 (you will see when you launch it). Or just create a shortcut of Nvidia Inspector, open properties of it and add without quotes " -forcepstate:0,1" or " -forcepstate:0,8" to the Object field when on battery.
    This will lower your GPU performance so if it doesn't help then perhaps it's not GPU afterall.

    P.S. GT780 doesn't use iGPU so no point in disconnecting GPU.
     
  41. Wire55

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    Thanks for the info. I will try this out tomorrow since it's almost 3am for me. I will report back with results after I do it.

    Edit: What do you mean when you say turn the AC on?
    Thanks,
    Wire55
     
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  42. Wire55

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    Ok, so I just got around to being able to mess with the computer but I don't know what you mean when you say "When on battery turn AC on."
     
  43. James D

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    Means plug it to power network and immediately lower power plan.
     
  44. Wire55

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    The issue is that it will almost always instantly restart when I plug it in. But, I will try it out.
     
  45. Wire55

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    Ok, so the only difference between P1 and P0 was that P1 had a shader clock 100 Mhz lower.
    Edit: So after modifying P0 to match P1, should I switch back to balanced power plan?
     
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  46. James D

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    So it worked for now, right? Next time just use EDIT button and add what is new to add.

    I suggest to manually set P8, then turn on Balanced plan with turned on AC and work. Then set manually clocks to half of P0 and test again. If it works at half of clocks but restarts at full P0 then it's GPU.

    Write here your results.
     
  47. Wire55

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    On P12, as soon as I did something graphically intensive (launched WoW), the computer restarted. Thus, I believe it is the GPU which I can't/won't be able to replace any time soon.

    Edit: Sorry for replying almost an hour later, I have been refreshing the page and must have not realized you had posted.
    Edit2: How do I change to P8? I can't figure out how to change it from one P# to another.
     
  48. James D

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    Create a shortcut and edit field Object
    pstate 8.png

    Are you from the USA or Europe or where exactly from?
     
  49. Wire55

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    I am from the USA.
     
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    Well then if money is a big issue for you but you can afford some patience and risk you can buy this card.
    It will work and in fact is even faster and cooler.
    The problem and the risk are:
    - you will have to slightly mod your GPU heatsing. using dremel on aluminium to shorten and slimming few things on it. I can show what exactly to shorten.
    - you will have to take out X-bracket which is on double sided glue tape (or just glue). It takes time (5-25 minutes) and patience. You should be very careful doing that if you are doing this for the first time. And you must have a hair dryer or another blow heater which will soften glue.
    - you need to have small copper shim (find at home? or buy on flea market/elsewhere), thermal paste (obviously) and 0.5mm thermal pads in addition to those you already have on 570M.

    If you are OK with all that then I can write more detailed instructions. Just decide. And you always can offer a smaller price to that seller but be aware that it can be sold.
     
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