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Only the 012US model, the only model available is the -011US

 

Isn't that a bad thing? like why are they discontinuing it? Does that mean I shouldn't buy the 012us model? because I was about to...

 

Does this new CPU support 1600MHz frequency RAM?

 

Is that late or early October? I just placed an order for a 780DX but I can wait a month for the extra mhz

 

From what I can tell, the Intel Core i7-2670qm is the true successor of the Intel Core i7-2630qm. Both support 1333MHz RAM, not 1600MHz RAM .

See Intel Core i7 2670QM Notebook Processor - Notebookcheck.net Tech

On the plus side, its clocks are 200MHz faster at stock and turbo (2200MHz - 3100MHz ).

 

CPU World suggests the the Intel Core i7-2670qm will be available from about 4 October.

 

Hi,
I have a question for the GT780DX owners about the noise, how is it during idle or low GPU-stressful tasks? Can you watch a movie without earing the fans? The 570m doesn't increase too much the heat of the laptop?
I like to use my laptop on my... lap, can I do it even when during demanding GPU tasks without compromising my chance of reproduction ??

 

I got my GT780DXR today. Still setting things up and will have to transfer a 250 gig steam folder overnight so not much gaming yet except some Starcraft 2 which unsurprisingly runs at 60fps with every setting maxed.

Something I noticed was that Afterburner or GPU-Z sensor monitor both report the core clock never going above 525MHz, but overclocking does seem to work since its affecting 3d mark scores (P2750 in 3dmark11 with some moderate overclocking. It was around 2450 stock.

The screen blows away my old Asus. Matte screens are so much better. Happy that the included hard drives were WD Black's - have had good results with those in my desktop. Also impressed that the wireless card was Intel and not some atheros crap. I had a slightly better intel card on hand so i swapped it anyway but it was still a nice surprise.

The free copy of Dirt 3 is funny because its "Compliments of AMD." I wonder if AMD knows they bought me a game when the laptop has no AMD CPU or GPU.

I have the 095US version since I didn't need blu-ray and had an extra 4gb on hand to upgrade it from 12gb to 16gb anyway.

First MSI laptop so the sound quality was a shock. I don't usually use the speakers but they sound good. My Beyerdynamic DT860 headphones sound pretty decent on it too. Not as good as with the amp on my desktop but pretty darn close. The THX Crystallizer helps a lot.

Impressed so far. Gaming time tomorrow.

 

Why is it every time I place my order they release some new upgrade for this computer ha I'm starting to think I have bad timing ha

Since it's on pre-order still could it be possible to get the CPU upgrade thing?

 

Placed my order for my new MSI GT780DXR with gentech over the weekend. One thing I was curious about (as I was dead set on getting an asus g74 before I saw this laptop) is the screen, is the screen of a similar quality to the g74? This is my only real concern. I also got the 215 version but with the 4x blu ray and 16gb of ram, I went this route because this model was offered with an extra 640 gb hard drive for free over the labor day weekend, which works better in my mind because all my games will be on the primary hard drive anyway.

I probably would've gotten an SSD if the prices weren't so ridiculous. I'll just wait on that.

I think the thing that tipped me over the edge from the g74 to the MSI was the audio system, I saw a comparison on youtube and was blown away.

So yeah, can anyone comment on the screen quality in direct relation to the (non- best buy version) Asus G74 screen?

 

At stock settings you will not be able to hear the fan if you are watching a movie or playing music. In a silent room you may occasionally hear air movement but not the fan. If activate the turbo fan option you will hear the fan but then it is needed to keep things cool. I was concerned with noise as well but have been very impressed considering what you have "under the hood".

You could use the laptop on your lap but would highly recommend a lapdesk. The system has numerous vents on the bottom to supply proper ventilation. It would not be good to block these. I currently use the logitech N500

Logitech - Comfort Lapdesk N500

which you can pick-up at most Targets for $24.99 or less if on sale. When I do not want to hold the system I picked up a $15 laptop stand at Walgreen's that has multiple height and tilt. If you want to go all the way look at this laptop stand:

Lounge-tek: Lounge-Book Laptop-Table ..: Enjoy Computing :..

Still deciding if I will pull the trigger on this but at least it has the wife's approval.

 

Thanks Fiche for the info, I didn't know about the lapdesk, looks way more confortable than the big book that I am using right know to avoid burns on my lap

 

just ordered my gt780dxr 095us from newegg today. should be here before the weekend since it's marked as shipped.

got someone at work interested in buying my old m17x r1 260m sli for $700 so that takes care of almost half the cost. if I can sell him my gen 1 iPad then I'll be better off. I wasn't gonna upgrade, but he came up and asked if I was selling anything and there you go. I alway give him interest free financing, lol.

cant wait to have a matte screen again. if only it was 16:10...

 

If you can wait I can hold the order for you. MSI are not allow to ship the laptop with new CPU before October 1st.

GT780DXR and Asus G74 screen are very similar, the only real difference is the MSI uses matte screen and Asus uses glossy.

 

Hi peoples!!! did you all miss me? i was too busy rocking out on my good ol' gt780r. seems that dxr is finally out now. how exciting and yes, i are jelly as well.

anywho, i was wondering if someone could help me with a minor issue i am having. i tried to update my BIOS to 30B (i'm currently running E1761IMS.300.) i was able to update my ec firmware fine but when i tried the 30B it said i had the wrong ROMID. Anyone having similar issues? I would really like the new BIOS since it says it changes boot order since my machine loves to try to boot from my external hdd's first for some odd reason and i have to unplug every time i reboot. thanks in advance.

my specs are in sig

 

why are they discontinuing it?

 

I'm still saving up, so I can't complain

 

I wanted to follow-up and thank everyone for their assistance. I purchased a gt780dxr from gentechpc and had it delivered last Friday. Man is this machine amazing. I originally had a freezing problem with the ssd but once I updated the firmware the ocz vertex 3 is working perfectly. It is fast!

The other issue I had was the 2nd hard drive and no way to secure it. Well Ken pointed me to a youtube video showing how the rubber stop was to be used and everything fits snug and works great. Good ole rubber stop.

Anyway, the service from Ken over at Gentech was phenomental. He responded 7 or 8 times to my emails over the holiday weekend. Great customer service.

And then the gt780dxr. It is fast, quiet and works great. Thanks again MSI and Gentech.

Jim

 

is it safe to buy the msi gt780r-012us? even though they are discontinuing it?

 

should i go with the gt780r or the gt780dxr? will the 4 extra gb of memory make a difference? and will the non raid hd's with the dxr make a difference?

 

the R version and DXR version are the same except for RAM, HD, and GPU.

You will only need 8gb memory maximum unless you do a lot of high res video editing. Many people don't think raid 0 makes that much of a difference to a single HD, but SSDs will give you the most improvement.

 

Personally, I would wait for the 2670QM CPU to replace the 2630QM, otherwise you might regret it in the long run.

 

Sorry but I couldn't disagree more.

You're very unlikely to notice an extra 200 MHz on a 3 GHz Sandy Bridge CPU.

 

Yes is is safe, everything will be supported just fine.

The RAM and HDD's will not hardly be noticeable, the big difference is the 570m gpu in the DXR over the 560m gpu in the R version. However the difference there is only in gaming.

I agree with iaTa, the difference between the 2 will not be noticeable. I hardly notice the difference between the current 2630QM over the i7-720QM that was in the G73 I had. The sandy bridge is only faster in about 2% of the tasks I do, although in those 2% of tasks it is way faster. The rest is the same from a user perspective.

 

You can add the switch /x to bypass ROM ID check:

AFUDOS E1761IMS.308 /p /b /n /x /r

Because there will be a new SKU coming out with GTX560M.

 

Hello~ but just a question here, if the MSI laptop's GPU happens to fail either 560m or 570m will the integrated GPU in the CPU kick in automatically? If not can it be done manually?

 

no, MSI does not support Optimus

 

So basically for the GT780 series the integrated graphics card on the CPU is like 'not there'? even if the dedicated GPU is broken it can't be utilized at all?

 

the integrated graphics on CPU can only be enable if the laptop manufacturers want to.

Most of the gaming laptops does not have this feature enable on the mainboard.

So yes, if the nVidia GPU is broken it will not switch to Intel HD graphics.

 

It's not just the fact that it's only 200MHz, we're practically talking about a free CPU upgrade here.

Some people paid a lot of money for that extra 200MHz when upgrading to the 2720QM.

Performance aside, a lot of enthusiasts want as much as they can get

This type of thing is personal preference I guess.

 

np... using a big book with this system on your lap could cause one permanent flat spots on thighs and the inability to get up from the couch ...... then again it could give you 30 minutes more of gaming since you would no longer need your daily workout.

 

Thank-goodness imo. I have been helping a co-worker for over 30 days trying to get their Dell XPS to behave with Optimus. Works one minute then stops and runs the fan at 100%. With a clean install it is now working but I hold my breath every time they boot the system.

 

Hello All,
I got my GT 780DXR from Gentech. Thanks to Ken for getting it checked before shipping. The laptop is amazing and to my surprise quiet. Well you can always hear it "ROAR" when you kick in extra cooling. I mean it literally makes sound like a small turbine. I replaced the primary drive with my Momentus XT and OS with Win 7 Ultimate OEM. I had few troubles with the touchpad. The cursor would jump over to places. I had the same cursor jumping when I booted to Ubuntu 10.04. In Windows I installed touchpad drivers and it seems to be fine. I had few driver issues in Linux especially with Intel 6230 and Realtek Audio drivers. Nvidia drivers run fine on Linux.
Apart from these I really like the laptop especially the screen. Colors are more vibrant than my old laptop. I know it's a personal choice but still .
Ken you have been great in providing information and replying back to all my emails. I have my eyes on 2860QM. It will be a significant upgrade over 2630 QM.
Cheers

 

so i ordered my DXR and i'm interested in removing all the bloatware, do you guys suggest i just uninstall it all one by one? or go ahead and reformat?

the only thing that i don't like about reformating is I don't want to remove any special config/drivers or anything that would make the laptop not run as intended

 

You can uninstall what you don't want, but the best method is to do a clean install. The first post of this thread has links for win7 hp download and all drivers and utilities from MSI. When you reinstall windows you need the key from the sticker that is under the battery to activate it. It isn't to difficult and if you read the explanations for the drivers and utilities on the MSI site you can see which ones you want and which you don't.

 

As for lap protectors: I had an issue with mine. My GPU was overheating, graphic tearing, eventually shutdown. After Ken mentioned it was likely heat, I looked at the surface of my lap protector. It is 1/4" or so of rubber similar to mouse pads. I looked at the bottom for air intakes and removed the rubber from the surface in the 4" from side to side about 1-2" down from the top (where the back of the laptop is). Now it is cool sailing. No graphic issues at all. So make sure that the intakes are not blocked with whatever your choice of lap protectors is.

Homer

 

what's a good quality affordable lapdesk out there for the dxr?

 

Great post to keep in mind, I a lot of people overlook the simple things like this.

 

So I found out that when turbo drive isn't turned on, it permanently keeps the 570m at 525mhz (which is even below 575mhz default). I think I had uninstalled the app that allowed toggling of turbo drive but now everything is fine. I got P3400 in 3dmark 11 with the GPU at 700Mhz. After an hour of Crysis 2 overclocked the gpu temp never went above 69 C either which is nice.

 

ok so what are you saying? that sounds sucky, why would they let their card perform like that? what is the name of that app? does it come preloaded on the laptop?

 

When turbo drive is disabled it won't let you overclock the card. No matter what you put into afterburner it will stay at 525mhz. It's not a huge deal really - I thought turbo drive did a small amount of overclocking on its own which is why I didn't enable it at first, I would rather specify my own clocks, but what it does is actually allow you to overclock period. I believe you need the s-bar and nvidia overclock tool installed for it to work - yes these do come installed on the laptop or can be downloaded from MSI.

Does anyone know where the actual .exe is located for toggling turbo drive? Or is it built into s-bar?

 

Hello,
question of the day, on newegg the alimentation for the gt780dxr is noted as 150w but I read on this forum that it was supposed to be 180w. Is it a typo or their model has a weaker alimentation?
thks

 

thanks man

 

Whew, I thought I was having a huge issue for a while cause on some web sites it showed /nr as the no check romid command. Obviously that didn't work. XD
For some reason the ROMID was different but the GUID was the same for the BIOS files E1761IMS.300 and the E1761IMS.30B.

Thank you so much for clearing this up for me. just adding /x worked great. Once AGAIN you saved my day!

Now I can reboot without having to unplug my external hdd's!!! yeay!!!

 

Faster speed but not worth the extra cost.

 

I booted it up and registered it and made sure it worked.

Then repaved it completely. The best way to go. All drivers needed were on the disk or the website.

 

My original order contained the 2720QM.
I was able to get my order updated so now I will have the i7-2760QM.
I'm happy there was a backlog in getting units customized.
Much thanks to Donald at Powernotebooks.com.

 

good stuff, thanks man