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Hi guys, few questions before buying this laptop:

Is it possible to change the hard drives without voiding warranty?
and if not, then is it possible to use the secondary drive as your boot-up drive? (i.e. install windows to the second drive).

Thanks

 

If you did a google search, you would probably find that taking the void warranty sticker off is taking a risk that you might void it. However, most of the time MSI will still honor the warranty (assuming you did not do any damage, while installing the upgraded hardware).

I've heard that it is possible to use the secondary hd (& bay) as your primary/boot drive, in theory. But they also stated that it may not work. I don't think there's much documentation about anyone trying to use the secondary drive as the boot drive. Most people just put it in the primary, and it's not really that hard to do.

 

Happy dance, happy dance.
My computer shipped today. It will here on Thursday. I am soooo excited. It's been ~5 years since I treated myself to a new rig.
Happy dance!

 

Only SATA ports 0 & 1 support SATA III, so if you are using a solid state drive that is where you want your boot drive. Otherwise you can boot from any drive, including your Optical Drive, thumb drive or external hard drive, as long as the device is bootable, or has a bootable disk in it.

 

probably I should try to contact MSI directly but I may have a faster response here. It's about the extension of the guaranty to 3 years if you register your laptop. MSI ask the original invoice but I bought mine at newegg so I just have an email... should I ask an original letter/bill to newegg or printing copy of the invoice is ok?

 

Si este foro esta increible, haceme caso, habla por mail nomas con Donald, y vas a ver que bien, incluso si pagas por western tenes el descuento de efectivo y todo, la vdd 100 puntos powernotebooks, lastima que nosotros no tenemos estos servicios por estos lados no?

Saludos!

 

Printing a copy of the invoice should be fine. I bought mine from NewEgg, and that's what I did. MSI accepted my registration after mailing the printed copy to them.

 

Todos las tiendas activas en este foro tienen sevicio excelente. Y si es una gran putada que no hay servico asi fuera de los EEUU.


Sorry for the Spanish guys.

 

Yeah, i know all these stores offer excellent service, just happen that powernotebooks was the only one that could accept my payment in a hurry, all other stores accept the western union but take them like 7~10 days to validate the payment, and i had little time whit a friend that was travelling ther so... was my best and only choice for the matter.
But i have no regret, they were super whit me and i would buy from them everytime i will have to buy a superlaptop

Saludos!

 

thanks for the quick response!

 

Is there noone else that has a problem with that fugly star, or are you just reluctantly accepting it?

 

You should uninstall it, but i guess it will disable somethings???

 

Hi everyone, I just received my GT683DXR-S1 from gentech today

I played with it for a while...thx to Ken for checking the screen for me for deadpixel prior to shipping...

I have to say it's quite a beast

But I do have some input & questions :
1. The keyboard is bad, it doesn't feel good when you type on it and it make cheap sound T_T

2. The touch pad is really bad (I remember someone posted about this before and I have to say I share his sentiment), it's not really sensitive, and you literally have to put a hard pressure on it T_T

3. Screen is nice...so does the audio

4. Is it normal for the laptop to be a bit noisy?

5. Is it normal that you could really feel that it's vibrating under the palmrest area and there's also some noise (constantly vibrates)?

Would appreciate if anyone would answer those questions

Oh, one more thing, when I started it up the first time, there's some *blablabla*reader starting up...and it's not responding right away T_T

I'll test this laptop with games and benchmark tool later and report

 

Yes it will, I'd like to have the functions but not the star. Maybe it's not possible to do anything about it, a trivial problem nonetheless.

 

You can "hide" it, but not remove it if you want to keep some of the touch panel functions. Do a little more research in this thread because people have asked that question numerous times. I personally don't get why so many people get so OCD about the star...in my opinion, it's not that bad.

 

Striker, since you originally posted the drivers link...Do you recommend installing the drivers from there or using the drivers CD for a fresh install?

 

I'm sorry to hear you are having issues. I'll provide my opinion/insight on these by number.

1.) I actually love the keyboard, I love the bigger shift and ctrl keys. And I do not seem to hear any noise aside from the usual quiet click of chiclet keys everywhere. The keyboard is a known problem for this model, and if you think it's performance/build quality is abnormal you should contact MSI. The keyboard lighting is especially problematic. My keyboard is fairly evenly lit, but the Alt gr and win keys are much brighter than the rest.

2.) Touch pad is bad. I don't have to press or tap hard though. Still, bring a mouse with you as the touchpad is passable at best (and I'm the kind of person that usually uses the touchpad).

3.) Same here. I miss having a built in equalizer but the audio is the best in any notebook I've had so far. Screen is excellent as well, love the matte in this gloss glazed world.

4.) Depends on what you mean. If you mean fan noise then yes. But it isn't very intrusive for me as I'm usually rocking headphones. And then there is the dynaudio for distracting you.

5.) While this sounds bad, you could just be feeling the fan. Or more likely there looks to be a hard drive under there. If if it's a mechanical, then a light vibration is normal. Also note, that while it isn't the same region, I find the subwoofer will cause some mild shaking on my desk.

 

1. is most likely due to the plastic coverings between the keys of the keyboard. This has been brought up many times. see if you can peel it off then everything will be fine

 

After the fresh WIN 7 install, I installed most the drivers from the MSI download page. I did install the release 570M driver from disc..... since we are awaiting it's official addition to nVidia's Verde driver package. Don't forget to install 'S-Bar' and 'nVidia VGA OC' (needed for TDE) if you want the touch-bar features to function correctly. Also, the THX downloads are not necessary, and in my opinion, a waste of resources and HDD space.

All downloads can quickly be found HERE!

 

Thanks for the response Striker! So I just install a fresh copy of Windows on the ssd. For some reason, the second hard drive isn't being recognized in windows. It just shows the ssd drive in C. I did use diskpart to clean the second hard drive before re-installing windows, so I'm not sure what's going on with that. I didn't move or touch the second hard drive at all. I thought I remembered seeing someone else with the same problem in this thread, but I can't find it now.

Also, on another subject, does anyone have a slight bulge just to the left of the mouse touchpad? It's almost as if the frame is that way because there isn't any give when I press on it. Basically, the brushed aluminum portion of the laptop is pushed up a bit. It doesn't really bother me because it's only really noticeable when looking at it at eye level. I was just wondering if anyone else noticed this as well?

 

Right now I'm looking in disk management. It shows disc 0 as the ssd only, and disk 1 says unknown, 931.52 GB, Not Initialized. Maybe I didn't clean it out properly with diskpart?

 

Sounds like your secondary needs to be formated. Also, which SSD are you installing?

I would first check bios insuring the boot priority is in order, and drives are set to ACHI. Do you have the latest bios? Then I would do the fresh WIN 7 install to the SSD, without the secondary in place. After installing Windows, run the W.E.I. to insure the OS recognizes the SSD, and optimally configures OS settings for SSD usage. While at it, I would then install all drivers and Windows updates. Once all of this is completed, then install the secondary drive after Windows is completely set-up on the SSD, and you should have no secondary drive recognition problems.

I hope this helps........

 

I figured it out. I went into the raid configuring screen (when you press control-i) and disabled raid from there as well. That seemed to work because it shows drive C as my primary boot drive, and drive E as my secondary drive now. C is the ssd, and E now correctly shows 465GB. I'm just hoping I have it setup correctly. By default, will the system install all programs to the ssd? If so, it seems like I'll run out of storage fast.

Striker, I installed a Crucial M4 128gb drive. I have the boot order as the optical drive, primary hd, then lastly the secondary hd. I disabled the e-sata in the boot sequence for now because it just added extra boot time. Would updating the BIOS improve the performance of the ssd? Just wondering because the it still stays on the windows symbol (during bootup) for a decent amount of time....or is this normal? Everything else runs quickly and windows pops up quickly after the loading windows (windows symbol) process. Thanks for your help Striker!

 

Hello everyone, I just received my GT780DXR in the mail today and have been fiddling around without and I came across a problem regarding headphones.

When i attempt to use a Sennheiser PC 151 Binaural Headset with analog connectors, the microphone is detected but no sound is detected on the audio devices panel even when tapping it. Even when attempting to configure the device in windows and speaking into the microphone no sound is detected. The microphone works perfectly fine on a separate laptop.

However, when using a pair of logitech headphones with a USB connector and plugging into the GT780, the microphone is detected, sound recognized, and works fine. Is this a driver issue for the GT780, or is this a hardware issue? I assumed that since the device is being detected but not registering sound it would have to be a driver issue. Any thoughts would be appreciated

 

Hi generalevilg, thanks, but I think you mistook it for GT780DX, mine is GT683DXR with glossy screen and no backlit keyboard....but it'll be awesome to have them in GT683

Ken from gentech has replied me on this issue, he said it was normal to have the left hand side part of the palmrest to vibrate since the HDD is located there and it's the primary HDD. I'm just checking with other user here whether they experience the same thing...I'm just not too fond of the vibration since my prev laptops don't vibrate on the palmrest area.

For the noise...the fan is pretty noisy for me even without the turbofan turned-on...but it's still acceptable though...

thanks for the input

Make sure you plug it to the correct port. Do you have any other headset you could try with the laptop? If the microphone of the other headset also doesn't work and you've set the recording device to the headset's mic then it means your soundcard for audio port for mic have some issues.
USB will work because headset with usb connector usually has their own soundcard.

 

Guys, I got a question. My brother and I tried before a Roccat Kave on the MSI GT680R, but the sound card came with the 4 ports, mainly green, pink, blue and grey. However, the Roccat Kave came with black, orange, pink green.

When I check the colour codes of each audio connector port, the black is for surround/rear output while the blue is an audio line level audio input.
Any idea how u guys solve this? He wants to obtain the best audio experience possible.

Putting the black jack to the blue connector is weird and isn't right.
Both the sound cards in MSI GT680 and MSI GT780 are the same, so I suppose I'm asking in the right thread =)
Do advice me, thanks =)

 

Hello everyone, I'm a new member on here and I have been spending the past few days, weeks and maybe previous month going through 190 something pages and so far I am pretty much underworld-bent on getting this laptop. Seeing as to how everyone on here has been so helpful with questions I decided to throw on out with regards to the pricing; I am currently a Senior in High School and seeing as to how I was able to miraculously survive all four years on a Dell Latitude D610 (thing is a tank, build wise and speed wise literally), I decided to upgrade to a MSI GT780DXR. However, I only have a budget of 1700 (My family as a whole including parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles decided to pitch in 700 as a gift). The configuration I wanted on the laptop would make it reach a price of 1825, I honestly don't mind toning the machine down, but I was wondering if Gentech or MSI are known for having any sales on occasions such as Black Friday or Christmas. I don't need the laptop anytime soon, but it would be nice to know if I should order it now or later on.

 

I would like to know too!!! Does anyone have previous experience with these retailers? which promotion day would offer the best deal? will it be Christmas or new year?

 

It is unlikely that MSI will offer a Holiday Sale, but once a model comes to End of Life the prices usually go down. Of course that is when a new model with new technology has been released.

However you should contact your reseller of choice to see if they are able to discount your order based on its configuration. PowerNotebooks.com will always entertain such requests, and we will do our best to accommodate. However a discount of $125 would usually be beyond reasonable because resellers rarely even have that much gross profit in laptops...but it never hurts to ask.

 

The Roccat Kave is made for desktop sound cards, putting black (for rear) into blue port (line in) won't work and orange is for subwoofer which the GT680R does not have that port.

What you need is probably a USB DAC to replace the laptop sound card.

haven't hear any promotion from MSI yet. But usually manufacturers will only have promotion / rebates for slow moving models or overstock.

P.S. That's why SSD rocks, no sound and no moving parts.

 

Wow, a USB DAC is like an external sound card itself right?
Gosh, I didn't know how to determine which type of headphones are for desktop while others are for laptops, please advice me @_@

Would the USB DAC have compatibility issues like what you told me last time? =)

 

I am trying to register my new gt780dxr but am unable to locate the serial number. I thought it would be on the bottom of the unit. Any help is appreciated.

Jim

 

remove the battery

 

You can normally find the SN in the battery compartment underneath the battery. I beleive it's on the outside of the box also.

 

Perfect, thanks.

JL

 

just what's the difference between the GT780DX and GT780DX R? I ordered the first one and would be appreciated if someone let me know ^^

 

Hi,
Yesterday I was trying to play with the OC of my GT780DXR-095US. I have installed the latest modded driver, oc @ 675Mhz with afterburner. My vantage score is 12750 (compare with 11350 with stock driver and gtx570m@575). Which is good but very far from the results that I have seen here. Do I miss something? Why such a difference?

 

I have one more question that I hope someone can help me with. I have the gt780drx-099. There are 2 usb 3.0 ports. I thought they were the two on the right side of the computer, but when I pulled a usb 3 device in I got a message saying I could get more speed or something like that with a usb 3 device.

Am I using the right port? Can I use one of the normal usb 2 connectors or do I need a specific usb 3 one?

Thanks

Jim

 

The usb 3.0 are on the left side, near the air vents. You'll get more speed from those, but you can still use the usb 2.0.

 

That explains why I was getting the message. Do you need to have a special cable for usb 3 or will the regular usb 2 cable work?

Thanks

Jim

 

Hiya folks,

I just ordered this laptop from xoticpc a few days ago and look forward to trying a few games on it when it arrives. Anyone know what kind of performance to expect with the 570m on games like Crysis 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, F1 2010 at 1080p? Does the 570m perform on par with a desktop gtx 560?

 

usb 3.0 has more pins, but i don't know if speed would decrease if you used 2.0 cables on a 3.0 device.

 

I just got the notification ... my unit has been delivered. If only I didn't have to work for a living. I will be leaving work around 4 to pick it up from my MailBoxesEtc store.

The last time I was this excited about going home, my wife was still alive, and that was 19 years ago.

 

Just got my GT780DXR from the UPS guy and I'm installing RIFT now.

I just wanted to make sure because I haven't really given a crap about a laptop since my last new laptop I purchased in highschool (that had a top-of-the-line 350mhz processor). So I wanted to know, is it safe to move a laptop when its on? Also, is it okay to put this laptop on my bed (as I'm doing now) or will those block the exhaust/intake vents and cause overheating?

Thanks in advance guys.

 

USB 3.0 is backward compatible with USB 2.0 specs. You can plug any USB 2.0 device using USSb 2.0 cable in USB 3.0 port without any issues. Ofcourse then you will get USB 2.0 speed and Bandwidth. USB 2.0 cables will not give you full USB 3.0 speed if used in a USB 3.0 device. Also current carrying capacity will be reduced. Just be careful not to damage the extra two pins in the centre. They are like bulging out of the centre support.
Cheers

 

Yes, you can carefully move a laptop when it is on. It is even safer if you have a SSD.

You should never use it on the bed without something hard like a TV Tray under it. Not only do you block the air circulation, you will probably be drawing lint into it which will eventually block your cooling system.

 

I'm afraid nyot! the GTX550ti is the desktop counterpart!

 

Sadly it does not. However the good news is the performance is excellent and great for folks like me who just use a desktop replacement. Crysis 2 will run at around 30fps at 1080p with high res textures and DX11 (I have it at varied settings from Very High to Ultra and I get 35fps) I have dirt 2 but haven't tried it on this notebook, but it was playable at 1080p on my old notebook so it should run great. I could benchmark it if you like. I ran a bunch of games earlier but it's many pages back, I may post a link to the number. Far Cry 2 and F1 2010 should be no problem, but I don't have them on hand. Basically, it will handle most games at 1080p with high to ultra (with mid to full AA and AF).

 

If you do a nice overclock on the 570m (700 Mhz) you will get roughly the performance of a desktop GTX 460, which is really damn nice for a notebook.