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I'm using this one. I had to remove some of the foam pad as it blocked air flow to the inlets on the bottom. About 4-5" all the way across, starting about 1.5" down from the top. It is passive but the mesh screen underneath keeps my legs cool.

I saw this one that might get added for active cooling.

Homer

 

Sorry MrSeaBass for the late reply I am on holiday and couldn't get a connection for the internet till now.

this is going to sound dumb but I realized that I dont have MSI afterburner installed on this laptop...the actual utility name is MSI Nvidia Overclock, but I am still confused as to what I need to do, do I have to uninstall MSI Nvidia overclock in order to install MSI afterburner or can the two run together? I just downloaded MSI afterburner but am unsure as to whether I should install it or not.it is obvious I have never overclocked anything before...As for the MSI Recovery program any leads? I have looked on google but cant find anything that leads to my problem.

 

I meant SeriousBam (typo)

 

Just apply your target clocks in afterburner, and hit the P1 button.

Applying it without activating the nVidia overclock tool will NOT take any effect. the tool will allow the gfx card to be overclocked.

 

Have been looking at this MSI online for a while, wondering how the construction is? I've heard in the past some MSI laptops were pretty bad quality wise. Thanks!

 

Don't know about the past, but the current models are solid, great quality.

 

I second you.

 

I am afraid that one pixel is truly dead, it's a permanent black pixel, instead of a stuck pixel. I have tried everything to no avail, but thanks for the help!

Hmm, if I use a glossy screen protector, will it hide the textured grainy appearance of my matte display?

 

I would rather use something around the lines of eGPU(Vidock) or Thunderbolt next year. Pretty much worth it, rather then speculating or trying to put a 580m in this laptop.

 

Hi MrSeaBass, thanks for the info. That thing about msi's past quality I got from reading some reviews, like the gt680r.

 

IoI
You mean that articles about the bad quality of gt680r?
You have to know that it's the same as gt683 except the graphic card... which means that it's a very very good quality and performance notebook (better than the related notebooks from the contention).
Could you please post the links about their bad quality?

 

I honestly didn't remember a grainy textured appearance on the matte display, and I don't have experience with screen protectors. I would think it would make it worse, but like I said, I've never used one.

 

Also, in response to psynalizer, the OCed 570m will score just about the same as most eGPU setups. Dragon, and some of the other forum users are currently in the process of trying to upgrade their 560m/570m to a 580m and 6990m. So, we will find out soon whether or not a GPU upgrade is possible.

 

Grainy textured appearance is kinda like when you get a white background then put 1% noise filter on it. It looks pretty visible on white and pastel backgrounds.

Example Picture from MetaGenie on Hardforum.com:


As I read over there, I think it's kinda possible and worth to try out:
Retrofit a 30" LCD, changing it from matte to glossy? - Page 2 - [H]ard|Forum

I am trying to correct the refractive index with silicone glue, a material which is often used in many screen protectors to glue the plastic film to the display screen. In this case, I will try to fill the grainy texture of the matte screen with silicone glue. It can be done as simple as just putting over a glossy transparent screen protector on the matte screen. (and pray no air bubbles forming on it)

I think it's worth a try before cashing out more bucks to buy a new display.

EDIT:
I guess I have a pair of extremely fussy eyes... I could see subtle visual cues on these kind of things.
As for movie-viewing, I am using MPC-HC with MadVR and LavCUVID, so yeah... I am kinda a visual snob (and an audiophile to boot).

 

Thought you all might find this interesting... MSI infuses more gaming juice into its G Series notebooks with processor refresh -- Engadget

 

I am seriously thinking about purchasing the laptop (specifically the model # MSI GT780DXR-099US). Can anyone who owns it tell me if the vertical viewing angles are better than past LCD glossy laptops? I have a 2+ year old HP glossy 17 inch now but the if the screen is pitched back or forward even a little the image can be washed out and dark/ grey, etc... This drive me nuts and I cannot live with it anymore. It seems no matter what angle I view the monitor at its either too dark at the top or vise versa> Is this MSI better?

Also can you adjust the resolution for this monitor down to say, 1600x900?

thanks for any input.

 

So guys, after a failing warranty process (They only reconnected the cables), I am requesting MSI for a replacement.
Here's how the horizontal lines look like: http://youtu.be/9jBs4q64qv0 (Please watch it in an HD resolution and in full screen.)

I was talking with Daniel from Daniel J. Personal Computers & Technology News and he told me its an nVidia bug. Probably a GPU issue he faced a couple of years ago.

What do you think? Resellers?

 

Thanks for the info. That is really interesting. I wasnt talking about current gen cards at all, but the next gen cards. I am going to try it with GTX680. I will be going SLI so i will always carry one with my lappy, and when i get home - I do the SLI.

 

Bugger! I just bought mine on Thursday and it shipped Friday

 

I have those lines as well but only in dark areas while playing games. I figure a driver update will fix this. If I watch a blu-ray or just put up a solid black wallpaper, then no such lines. Are you using the stock drivers? Has anyone noticed a difference using the BETA drivers? I guess we have to wait for official drivers?

 

No such lines on GT780DXR... or perhaps I couldn't see it due to the matte finish (yet). I will try to convert my matte screen to glossy screen as soon as I receive the glossy screen protector with silicone adhesive layer, and I will inform you if I could see the lines by then. Oh, for your additional info, I am using Nvidia Beta 285.- driver with modified INF, and desktop brightness is lowered to 40% via Nvidia Control Panel.

 

Nope, I've had those lines in every driver. From 260 to 285. Still visible in safemode, hence its not a driver issue.

I'll inform you as I progress with MSI.

 

With that brings two questions: First, when will the resellers be offering this. Second, when will the resellers drop the prices on their current CPU offering in anticipation of this new CPU?

 

The only time I had lines in dark areas, was when I was using my external monitor via the VGA analog output. I switched to the HDMI output and they went away. I saw some again but only in certain parts of Dungeon Siege 3.

 

Are you talking about doing an eGPU implementation in SLI? If you are, I'm not sure if that's possible. One of the reasons we think the 580m will work in the dxr is because the 570m heatsink also lines up properly with the 580m. Hopefully, the 580m would work as a plug n play but there may be a whitelist of some sort that requires a modded vBIOS to make it work.

 

Hey guys,
My P1 button works normally, but while using the battery it seems like P1 doesn't work. Nvidia OC is still running in the background though.

 

You can't OC on battery power.

 

Is there no workaround?

 

I might be wrong, but shouldn't safe mode still use the stock drivers? If it's not the drivers than I have no idea what could cause these lines, I only see them in games so it has to be a GPU issue right?

 

No...what's the point of OCing on battery anyways? You'd get like 30 minutes of gameplay before the battery goes dead.

 

there should be a sticky about this

 

No, i am not. I am saying that next year i buy 2xGTX680 in SLI. When i am about to leave my flat, i will unplug the one GTX680 and carry it with my laptop connected to it. That would use eGPU set-up maybe, or Thunderbolt which is whole new league for those kind of set-ups. Even if 580m fits into the laptop somehow, its still no win. I dont know if you can buy 580m seperately, and if you can, the price is higher then SLI GTX570. IMO not worth the hassle or money. Price/performance also falls. So, its just not worth it. GTX660-680 will give you better boost, use new set-up ( Thunderbolt ), be still cheaper ( 2 680 will be about 250$ more expensive if i count the regular 580 prices, which is about correct - so def. worth it ) and you get higher viability. I am yet to se how hings evolve next year, but pretty much every experienced person will do as stated. Others wll just fall for the trick.

You can already get the other CPUs - 2760QM/2860QM/2960XM. 2670 is just being released later. Resellers already allow you to build a system with those three CPUs and 2670 coming shortly.

The price for the new CPUS IS THE SAME as the previous one. You get the "new one" for no price increase. You should know that so that you dont confuse others by what you said, but here you go anyway

 

But that same GPU is used to render everything else as well since the integrated GPU is unable to be used...?

 

It will not load the nVIDIA drivers in Safe Mode, it will only load the standard vanilla VGA drivers. Do you notice that the resolution is not 1080 when in Safe Mode?

Are you saying your lines show up in Safe Mode as well?

 

I haven't started in safe mode yet on this CPU, but I get your point. Well hopefully we will find out the cause of this :/

 

OMG~ ASUS has released a cheap cheap G74SX-XN1 at $1300. Do people think this may be worth buying over the MSI? It states it has 3Gb GDDR5 does that mean it is not cut down and uses 192bit or something? Apparently I'm not allowed to link to sellers, but other than having GTX 560m 3gb it has 12 gb RAM and DVD optical (not blueray)

 

3GB GDDR5 still 192bit but it really doesn't improve anything, more like marketing stuff.

 

Yup~ but it's an improvement over other ASUS G74 right? Oh and when will resellers on this site start selling it? XP

 

Hey guys,

I'll finally hopefully be ordering the GT780DX-406US in the next week or two after stalking this thread for the past month

Going from a mediocre Acer to this badboy will be an absolute dream
I won't be able to play with it until near Christmas due to being in Germany until then but still, the excitement of playing Skyrim on Christmas morning is brilliant

Do any of you have experience ordering a laptop to Ireland or anywhere else in Europe from the US? I'm a little worried it'll come dead on arrival or with a dead pixel and due to the expense, won't be able to send it for repair... But I remain optimistic.

Is there really all that much difference in a laptop from the US and one from Europe? Except for the optical drive region and maybe a slightly different keyboard layout. DVD games ain't going to be a problem are they?

Also, is the matte screen good? I've only ever used glossy and I'm afraid I'll be a little disgruntled with my new setup if the display isn't up to scratch. A little clarification from someone doing a similar transfer would be appreciated

 

Happens in during boot (MSI boot logo) and in safemode, confirming itself as a GPU issue.

Here's a video:
Horizontal lines on MSI GT780R - YouTube

Be sure to watch it in HD.

 

That proves it is an LCD screen issue, not a GPU issue. It sounds like it may just be the way the backlighting is working.

 

There won't be a big difference in the 3GB DDR5 vs 1.5GB DDR5. The only way to see a difference is if a user was exporting onto a 30"+ screen and running the game. In 3D mode there will be a larger difference, theoretically up to a 10 frame difference. In 3D rendering there may also be a difference but for most geeks who are just playing games natively on the panel there will be minimal gain.

 

Sad face there Because i will use this lappy from time to time to connect it to external 40" Samsung 3D Smart TV(400hz). Although i know about it so its not a big surprise just a reminder. Hopefully the Thunderbolt comes out soon or the x1/x2 limitation will be fixed

 

theres no point in 3GB GDDR5. Its just marketing gimmick. You can see that the top end cards now 6990M and 580M only have 2GB RAM. Samething even with desktop cards. Unless you use a resolution larger than 1920x1080 or theres buttload of textures. Even witcher 2 with max texture cache doesnt use up 1.5GB.

 

Thanks xMAR99 I installed MSI afterburner and is working perfectly

 

About P1 Turbo on GTX570M, I noticed something funny on my GT780DXR.

If I set it to P1 Turbo on the stock speed, the GPU core speed will be stable and maintained at 575 Mhz, even when there is no GPU load. However, when I change the core speed other than 575 Mhz, let's say 725 Mhz core speed, then the core speed automatically adjusts itself against the GPU load (maintain 725 Mhz during high GPU load, and low 100 Mhz during low GPU load).

I'd say during low GPU load situations, P1 Turbo stock speed runs a lot hotter than P1 Turbo overclocked.
It's because at 575 Mhz core speed, somehow the GPU lost its ability to scale its core speed automatically.

I don't know whether this is a bug or a feature...

Tested using Nvidia 285.- Beta Driver and Nvidia 268.- Factory Driver.

 

There's a 1 year Global warranty so you can use a service center in the UK.
MSI UK service

MSI UK - Support

Ireland

MSI Computer (UK) Ltd.

Address: Unit 3, Swallowfield Centre, Swallowfield Way, Hayes, Middlesex, UB3 1AW, UK
TEL:+44-208-8136-688
FAX:+44-208-8136-608

 

Here is my take:

As for dead pixels, if you get more than 7 dead pixels, MSI is obliged to send a LCD replacement as per the clause of their warranty policy. As for myself, I got one dead pixel (it's a dead pixel if it's black), it's only 1mm, and I really have to struggle to notice it.

If you are anal on your display quality, and pretty much enjoy playing in a dark room, then there's a pretty good chance that you will miss the unmolested image quality of your old glossy screen.

However, if you are playing in a room that is not dark enough, have many light sources that you can't control, matte will provide more pleasant experience at the cost of having somewhat grainy texture on the screen. Your eyes may adjust to the texture of the matte screen, but as for my case, I couldn't... because I am a quality snob, I have my audio files in FLAC lossless format, and use modifications on media players to enjoy the best audio visual experience.

If you are the one that couldn't tell difference between lossless PNG image and lossy medium-quality JPEG image, then my guess is you won't miss anything.

 

How is it a screen issue when I can watch blu-rays and run other apps and even put a black wallpaper up and no lines? I only get them during GAMES, so that's why I'm thinking GPU but I could be wrong. A sceen issue makes no sense to me.

 

You are misquoting. My response was to this post: