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    --->The Official MSI GT780/GT783 Owner's Lounge<---

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    FYI:

    I just updated my bios to version 1761IMS.30E, and I am happy to report this went without a hitch. Also, MSI finally corrected the flash command line issue. It is no longer necessary to add the '/x' switch, and the flash will now execute by simply typing "flash' at the command prompt.

    Remember, the 1761_10E bios is for non-RAID systems, and 1761_30E is for RAID. Also don't forget to recheck your bios 'Boot Prioority' after flashing.

    :)
     
  2. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

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    I got pass the sniper level and thank god to Google:

    Operation Swordbreaker - Battlefield Wiki - Battlefield 3, Bad Company 2, Weapons, Levels, Maps, Characters and more!

    " Matkovic notes that he could use his AT4 rocket launcher, as the sniper was dug into a spider hole in the front of a hotel." :D :D

    Today I did test the temperature with new setup

    - i7-2960XM
    - Svet's VBIOS OC @710/910/1420
    -8GB 1866 Kingston Hyper-X
    - IC Diamond
    - TurboFan off on idle: GPU Min: 43 / Max: 46
    - TurboFan on when gaming: GPU Min: 43 / Max: 72
     

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  3. DreamwalkerL

    DreamwalkerL Notebook Consultant

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    Wow~~~ 73 fps?? So having a much faster CPU helps a lot?
     
  4. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

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    No I just exit out full screen to capture the screenshot so the game is running in the background, the actual FPS should be around 30~45.
     
  5. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    LOL! You are having TOO much fun, aren't you Ken?

    YES, very nice temps at those clocks. This notebook continues to please........

    :D
     
  6. WhatsThePoint

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    MSI announced a new GT780DX gaming notebook model which features an Intel second generation Core i7 quad core processor and Nvidia GeForce GTX 570M discrete graphics with 3GB of GDDR5 display memory.

    MSI Global ? News
     
  7. DropZite

    DropZite Notebook Geek

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    Up to 32GB RAM, is this new as well or the previous version of GT780 could handle 32GB of RAM also?

    Aside from the memory increase in the GPU, is there any other changes I didn't see?
     
  8. lonelywolf90

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    Nice ;)

    The ONLY difference is the 3GB GPU right?

    Is there going to be a revised keyboard again? 0_o
     
  9. DreamwalkerL

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    Hmm~ I sincerely hope they release a model without the OS but not the barebone version...
     
  10. long2905

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    Thats unlikely.

    Other than double the ram, i dont see anything else different. This seems similar to ASUS announcing the G74 with 3GB 560M for pure marketing. Even 580M and 6990M use only 2GB of VRAM. One thing is for certain though that this version will not be gimped =)
     
  11. WhatsThePoint

    WhatsThePoint Notebook Virtuoso

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    In some countries most MSI models are sold without an OS.

    South Korea is one that comes to mind.
     
  12. lonelywolf90

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    Wow, if the GT780DX is coming stock with 32GB is just overkill, what can we do with so many RAM?

    I wonder when we can start looking at the SKU specs, woo =)

    I saw the specs having SSD+HDD, must be expensive..
     
  13. Keith

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    If the GPU has 3GB of memory, it should still have the 192-bit bus. Why do you say it will be gimped?
     
  14. DreamwalkerL

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    Yup~~~ and Korea is very close to where I live too haha. But their GT780s without OS is as expensive as the ones in USA with OS and that kind of defeats the point of me buying without OS Laptops...
     
  15. long2905

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    Sorry typo i meant *not*
     
  16. WhatsThePoint

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    Everything sold in the R.O.K. has a high VAT included in the price.

    To import from the US would require a high shipping cost plus paying 20% on arrival on the sum of the shipping an notebook's declared value.

    Having 32GB of Ram means upgrading to Windows 7 Professional x64 or Ultimate x64 for consumers.

    Last I looked an 8GB 204 pin DDR3-1333 so-dimm module was over $300.
     
  17. DreamwalkerL

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    Just like everywhere else outside USA lol~ They're selling it at $2600 USD for the GTX560m version here in New Zealand...
     
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    Kind of an aside but a listing of the hours of operation for the sellers at the beginning of this thread would be nice. Been himming and hawwing trying to decide to order mine. Finally made the call and they were closed. My own fault for not calling earlier in the week. Maybe it will be on sale next week...%))

    Great thread though!! Keep up the great work everybody and thank you for all of the information!
     
  19. WhatsThePoint

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    WOW,that is steep.

    Here the GT780 with GTX560M without OS is 1,518,000 KW($1376 US)

    With Windows 7 HP x64(Korean) it's 1,525,000 KW($1383 US)

    The new model should be introduced here on Tuesday November 1st?
     
  20. DreamwalkerL

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    Oh wow you're in Korea? I haven't found at GT780 in Korea with GTX570m yet though. Why is it only $10 for windows? I thought it would be at least $70 or somehting
     
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    Hmmmm ... I wonder if I can sell my rig to one of my co-workers and upgrade yet once again. ( dreaming .... :) )
     
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    Yes stR|K3r, your posts/answers/instructions are greatly appreciated. thx!
     
  23. MrShadowness

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    You reminded me of something. After two weeks of using my new HTC Evo 3D, guss what i found. An HTC Sensation XE. And i was like *derp*....*Stupid me*...In case of Evo 3D, the 3D really is a gimmick. Neat gimmick though, not that it would like add something to it anyway.

    So now i have to figure out with the reseller to return HTC Evo 3D, or sell it for around 85% of the original price, and get Sensation XE. The Evo 3D also bad at playing music. You have to use headphones to not go mad and even then, its like listen music with my old Creative Fatal!ty Gaming headset...

    I was really angry i fell for a 3D marketing and some neat design gimmicks and didnt pay attention to my ears...Also the Red/black design fits to the Asus ROG 17" / Belkin Messenger 17" / This laptops keyboard and Roccat Kone+...So all in all, good deal.

    Although i know how you feel. I made this mistake for the second time this year.

    ~Just saying
     
  24. WhatsThePoint

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    Within the last week or so the GT780 prices have been dropping quickly in anticipation of the GT780DX being released on November 1st.

    There was a gap of about $65 between the with and the without OS models since June but this past week that changed fast.

    It's now getting near 2 months before CES 2012 so this is probably the last hurrah for the Sandy Bridge 17" GT780 models.
     
  25. wrp9

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    I know that I got audio playing on my TV through the HDMI connection and through my headphones. I was messing around with the advanced audio settings.

    [​IMG]
     
  26. long2905

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    theres no need for you to upgrade...yet. Maybe a GT783 or something.
     
  27. MrShadowness

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    I second that. I wont upgrade my laptop for next 3 years until Mavel comes out, for sure. If i am going to need more GPU power, then just use one of the solutions available. Although Battlefield 3 and Need for Speed The run are rare for their requirements. I think we wont see more, similar demanding games, in the 2 year horizon.
     
  28. wrp9

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    At least I didn't buy my GT780 until they put the GT570M into the system.
    My son bought one right when they came out. He is stuck with the GT560M.
    (oh yah! For once, the dad is rockin' it with the coolest system in the family. :D )
     
  29. DreamwalkerL

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    The last sentence made me lol~ You got a really nice son! Some people I know would take the better one from their dad straight away lolz Or the dads will give it to them straight away, spoiled kids XD

    (Now I know why I haven't seen any bad words on this forum, they all get censored lol... even the not so offensive ones)
     
  30. Donald@Paladin44

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    There won't be a big difference in the 3GB DDR5 vs 1.5GB DDR5. The only way to see a difference is if a user was exporting onto a 30"+ screen and running the game. In 3D mode there will be a larger difference, theoretically up to a 10 frame difference. In 3D rendering there may also be a difference but for most geeks who are just playing games natively on the panel there will be minimal gain.
     
  31. DreamwalkerL

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    Sorry~ but can you explain why having it on 30" need more memory? Would it still need more memory if the resolution is the same, say FHD?
     
  32. long2905

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    on 1920x1080 aka FullHD 1.5GB is more than enough. But on 2560x1600 or above, you may or may not need more.
     
  33. GenTechPC

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    it's not about screen size, it's about how many VRAM to fill the pixels. 60" or 17.3" screen makes no difference if they all FHD 1920x1080 since they all have same amount of 2073600 pixels. however, if the monitor you are using are 2560x1600 like dragon290513 said then more VRAM may help a little bit to fill the 4096000 pixels.

    It still make no different in performance whether it's 3GB or 1.5GB VRAM, they will perform the same at same resolution with same amount of pixels. you can have 100GB VRAM running at 1920x1080 but video card won't allocate all VRAM to fill the pixels. the only thing makes difference is GPU and VRAM clock.
     
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    Yup :D , been waiting for this game for a while. :)

    The temperature are no different with higher GPU at 730, however, I am getting artifacts so I think stick with 710 is much safer.
     
  35. xMAR99

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    A quick question, Since the GT780 uses MXM B 3.0, shouldn't any card with the same interface fit in?
     
  36. GenTechPC

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    I don't think so, MXM still not standardlize and will never be. the only thing is standardlize is just the slot.

    here is the example of Asus's G53SX GTX560M MXM 3.0:
     
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    Do you have a picture for the 560M/570M in the MSI?
     
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    Also I think we would need to upgrade the power supply as well if we're going to upgrade the stock GPU.
     
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    Hi guys,

    Just referred here by Xonar, and I think this is the right place to ask for thoughts.

    I would like to ask about MSI GT780DX-215US, compared with asus G74SX-xr1. Honestly, I have never seen my friends using MSI (well, maybe they dont need gaming laptop. lol), so I dont really know how MSI's performance compared to the asus (i'm using asus right now). other than more powerful graphic card, (gtx 570M), how about the cooling system compared with asus g74sx? how's the keyboard? Thank you guys. really need your help to decide which laptop I should buy.

    *it;s said that GT780DX-215US coming with 16gb ram (standard). But I check xoticpc, if you want 16gb, you need to upgrade it though*
     
  41. Xonar

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    Sorry, I should have been more specific. The -099 model has 16GB standard and the -215 has 8 GB standard (+$0 to upgrade from Xotic to 12GB). 8 or 12GB is more than plenty for today, rarely do I go above 4 GB. Striker has the -099 which is more expensive.
     
  42. long2905

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    The graphic is definitely better, worth the price different if there is any. The fan noise could be louder though im not sure. One advantage is that you have quite easy access to the inside to upgrade anything from hard drive to video card, unlike the G74 with the onboard GTX 560M chipset. DynAudio on MSI is the best audio you can find on laptop for now.

    IIRC powernotebooks did a compare vid between the 2 (both on 560M). You can try to look on their youtube page.
     
  43. MrShadowness

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    Well the 099US is really worth it. I would never choose anything else. The card is really powerful. Really is. Only problem is that there are no official drivers from nvidia but they will come out next month. So dont worry.

    If you want to be sure about keeping the laptop cool you can always buy cooling pad like me. I recommend Cooler Master CF-19 :)

    The cooling is also better then the Asus one. You can also turn the fans to their limit by touching the Turbo fan boost icon. Thats another thing i love about this laptop - the touch panel.

    The keyboard is really responsive and feels really "premium". I am used to high keys you know but this keyboards is really good. It also has 3 LED areas which can glow any color you desire. Think there is 25 colors and many modes. Together with Cooler Master CF-19 cooling pad and Roccat Kone+ you can create nice night disco at home :D ( the cooling pad also got USB hub 4*2.0 or 3.0 USB and you can replace the fans with you desired one ).

    The screen is also very beautiful. Matte is all i would ever choose. Watching films, videos, movies..All works great. Gaming is really really great.

    i would definitely go for it. And dont worry, 8 GB is enough. 16 Gb Ram might be used for some advanced things which i need to look into yet. Heard about some RAM saving for files, or virtualization, etc.

    EDIT : Yes, the DYNaudio is also a thing to be noted. It is the best of the best you can ever get. Turn on Cinema Pro, tweak some settings in THX Pro and you are going to get a sound that even some desktop can reproduce.
     
  44. Xonar

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    I don't want to be annoying because I asked this some time ago, but can anyone make a video of Battlefield 3 multiplayer being played on the GT780!? :)
    And please make a video longer than 3mins. :D
    Thanks! :notworthy:
     
  46. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Yes, the GT780DX-215US would be an excellent choice.

    I too have been an Asus consumer for years, and probably will continue to be with the right products, but in this case I believe the MSI GT780 is the clear winner. Not only is the graphics card more powerful, the 560M of the G74SX is soldered to the mainboard. Also for your consideration, HERE I outline 11 reasons to opt the GT780 over the G74SX. This list is a bit dated now, but I believe most all still applies.

    As far as system memory, 8GB is more than enough for most users, unless you need to do some serious crunching, encoding, or running multiple VM's, etc. Initially I chose the GT780DXR-095US model (12GB DDR3), only taking the 099US model because it hit the street sooner.

    Anyhow, just prior to the GT780's release, my eldest son impulsively purchased a G74SX. Soon after being introduced to the GT780, he wanted to return his G74SX..... BUT it was too late, and he is now hating life, trying to find a G74 buyer (DANG, if only he could have listened to Dear O'l Dad, LOL!). That said, I have actually had my hands on both systems, and again in my mind, the GT780 is still the clear choice.

    :)
     
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    Not at all, I just manually shut down Warhammer 40K : Retribution because the GPU was again at nearly 90* temp. There you see a need for such a high quality cooling solution i am going to buy. Also turbo fan on, overclocking off. Running the game on high ( ultra once put me to 95* temps )...Once i get the cooling pad, and the Case under it, it might change drastically, in which i do sincerely hope.
     
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    Check out Gentechpc Youtube page they have a couple of gameplay videos for Battlefield 3. Battlefield 3 on MSI GT780DXR NV GTX570M driver 285.62 - YouTube
     
  49. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Consider trying the 285.62 driver HERE! As others have reported, this driver will now install fine, without modification. Though nVidia does not list the 570M as a supported product, they have officially added the 570M HW ID to the package. This will have you BF3 ready, and will provide a meaningful performance boost.

    Enjoy!

    :)
     
  50. Xonar

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    Those temps aren't right. Those are way too hot for what the average users have been reporting low to mid 80's. I might try to get into contact with your reseller and see what they have to say. Re-pasting the GPU voids the warranty so call first!
     
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