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I can choose between a Laptop with a resolution of 1366*768 with a gtx 560m for 999€, called medion erazer x6817 ( Germany )

or I can choose a Laptop with a resolution of 1920*1080 with a gtx 570m for 1127€, called Deviltech 5700

That's why i asked this question. I want a Laptop where i don't have to reduce a lot of details and the resolution and because the resolution is very different i want to know which card performs better: gtx 560m @ 1366*768 max details ( every game ) or gtx 570m @ 1920*1080 max details ( every game )

Does a Laptop exist with a gtx 570m and a max resolution of 1366*768 ? In my opinion that would be the best solution.

Just the gtx 580m and the hd Radeon 6990m should be strong enough to handle this resolution in almost every game but the gtx 570m ...




SRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH!

 

Yes, that's what i tried to do first. Didn't work.

 

In the bios there's a boot order for 3 devices.

If you have only ODD and boot drive hard disk then highlight #3 the Realtek Lan,click Enter and disable #3 in the boot order.

If you have 3 other devices not including the Realtek Lan then set the #1,#2and #3 boot order without the Realtek Lan.

Save the changes and reboot.

The MSI GT780 models bios doesn't have a "Disable Boot From Lan" option.

I don't know if the "unlocked bios" has it as an option.

 

As I said in my previous post, it doesn't work. It still says Reboot and Select proper Boot device or insert boot media in selected bott device and press a key

Once again : how to do i remove the battery to damn resolve this problem FAST instead of trying again and again things i already tried.

 

With the power adapter and 9 cell battery removed open the bottom of the notebook and disconnect the black and red wire connector thats at the bottom left of the fan when the fan is in the upper right corner looking into the exposed interior for about 2 minutes.

This may be what you are asking for.

Your bios clock will need to be reset after doing this.

Hope this fixes your issue.

 

can i overclock the CPU without using the software? is it safe to do manually?

 

I'm afraid that didn't solve the issue either... I shall return the laptop to MSI and wait for their answer. Only have it since 2 weeks..

 

No you can't OC the CPU.

 

I think you have to turn off icharge in the bios - that should stop the discharge (worked for me )

 

While booting up and pressing the f11key can you select your boot drive and boot into Windows successfully?

Your bios may be corrupt and a reflash with the newest version my help?

 

I tried booting from f11 too, it brings me back to the same page.

 

Do you have 1 or 2 hard drives in your unit?

If you have 2,then remove 1 and try unless they're in raid array.

A bad drive can cause problems.

 

They're in raid 0.

 

Can you enter the Raid Utility pressing CTRL + I and see if the Raid 0 array is OK with both disks as member disks.

Both disks must be working properly for the array to work.

Any hard disk problem will cause the array not to boot.

Will the notebook boot to a Windows 7 DVD installation disk or a bootable Linux distro on a USB stick?

I use Parted Magic unpacked onto a USB stick using the Universal USB Installer.
downloads ? Parted Magic
Universal USB Installer – Easy as 1 2 3 | USB Pen Drive Linux

I use this Parted Magic USB stick to upgrade my OCZ SSD firmware,secure erase,partition and format.I also use it to save files off inaccessable hard drives.

If you can boot the W7 DVD or the USB stick then there's a Raid array problem.

 

It says Raid 0 has no problem in the raid utility.

But i think i found the problem myself, ill repost the ETA as soon as i figure out if it was that.

 

You can buy the 1366x768 screen and swap it yourself, it's not that difficult.

Re-install S-bar should fix it.

maybe your hard drives in RAID-0 is missing the boot loader?

 

Ok, so I'm able to run Memtest86 from a bootable key, however everytime I reboot, the test begins anew, and if i disable the key we return to the same problem.

 

Just for kicks and giggles.... those of you out there who have a 3BG GT570M, can you run 3dMark Vantage and see what you can clock your vid card at with Afterburner. I get good marks with no aberration at 650, 1300, 1700. However... I get bad aberration at 710, 1420, 1850.

I'd like to see what others with the 3GB Card are getting. It seems like those with the 1.5 card are able to clock higher than those with the 3GB card, so please submit your scores only if you have the 3GB card so I can compare it to the 1.5 scores that were posted throughout this thread.

Thanks

 

So what vantage scores you getting?

 

I'm really glad that Rob had posted that the GT780 will be expecting an upgrade to the 580M soon, I can wait just a bit longer on that anyways.

However, back to my questions posted previously this more directed at Dragon or anyone that has done this: What places offer the GTX580M or 6990M for sale? Do you get these off of ebay? is there a place like newegg.com that deals in just mobile graphics cards?

Also, is there a reason why laptops don't have standardized GPU sockets like a desktop mainboard does? you know, like PCIe X16 but for laptops. I find it rather odd that these laptops boast being able to support 32GB of RAM but 3 years from now I doubt that 32GB of RAM will even be necessary. I guess what I'm saying is why boast you can get 32GB of RAM when I can't think of a single reason why we would need more than 16GB currently and even then needing that much I feel is rare. Yet 3 years from now we may not be able to upgrade the GPU because the socket or something changed again but we can still upgrade the drives and RAM...seems like kind of a waste imho.
If they could make the GPU socket the same like we do with a desktop mainboard, I think that would make a little more sense then.
Unless I'm completely off and not fully understanding how laptops are setup still. ^^;; Again, I'm coming more from the desktop side of things and just looking for a laptop for taking to LAN parties.

 

I haven't let 3DMark Vantage finish yet. I only use it to check for aberration. I'm not worried about scores as much as I'm worried about what clock speed you can set before you start seeing aberration. Scores mean nothing to me, but a major difference in the 'usable' clock speed between the 1.5gb cards and the 3gb cards would be concerning.

 

I have no imperfections in images I can play BF3 on Ultra settings for hours without fault on my OC setting's I am using the 1.5GB 570m setting's as below and as before temps have never been over 73c yet. My card is pretty much maxxed at these settings any further increase and it's unstable and black screen's.

 

I cannot reach those clock rates without further increasing my core voltage. Can you let me know what is your GPU core voltage needed for stable performance. Did yout try furmark by chance to see any stability issues? I don't want to increase GPU core voltage. Maybe I should wait for upcoming Nvidia GTX 680M and then upgrade the GPU. Though there is no guarantee that the socket will fit in this Laptop.

 

With a bad memory module you'd probably would be getting BSODs.

Do you have a extra hard drive or an SSD?

I'd suggest removing the 2 drives for the Raid0 array and install Windows 7 from a USB stick and add the iRST v10.8.0.1003 from a 2nd USB stick at the add driver screen.

You'd need to change the bios from Raid to AHCI before doing the clean install.

A SATA III SSD will yield better speed and performance than the Raid 0 array.

Before SSDs I always had Raid0 arrays.Thank god for SATA III SSDs.

If this doesn't work then RMA and let MSI figure it out.

 

Yea, ill sent it back to MSI, hope they gonna take it though since i opened the laptop. Thanks for your tries.

 

Living and working in this small country has an advantage.

The MSI service center is about 10 minutes from my apartment here in Seoul.

There's a counter that has about 5 techs that take care of you once one is available.You walk out fixed.

Really friendly people that take excellent care of this foreigner with poor Korean language skills.

Today I'll visit them for a 2nd hard drive bracket that wasn't in the box of my non Raid model(SSD) and then buy a caddy for a 3rd hdd in the same electonics center.I have little use for the ODD.

 

i have some questions about the msi laptops http://forum.notebookreview.com/what-notebook-should-i-buy/627747-laptop-budget-have-been-searching-weeks-urgent-2.html that is my second page but check out my first page i would really appreciate the input

 

i have some answers about the msi laptops http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...t780r-gt780dxr-owners-lounge.html#post7582136

 

well i mean like reviews of what people think of them and if this is a good place to buy it i realize that the whole forum is about it but instead of wasting your time trying to insult me why cant you help me. I have done a lot of research i was just wondering some owners opinions
Buy.com - MSI GT780DX-215US 17.3" LED Notebook - Intel Core i7 i7-2630QM 2 GHz - Black - 1920 x 1080 Full HD Display - 8 GB RAM - 750 GB HDD - DVD-Writer - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570M Graphics Card - Bluetooth - Webcam - Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium -
this is where im going to buy it from is that a good place or even a good laptop im open to suggestions

 

I'm sorry if you thought my reply was an insult. I gave you a very direct post that answered all the questions you posted in your other thread. However... if you're looking for owner opinions, there isn't a single post for that. I like mine. Other than that, there is currently 463 pages full of answers on what other current owners think.

 

would that website and that setup be a good option and does your laptop stay cool while gaming

 

I like my MSI GT780dx has not exceeded 73c when gaming ok I have used an aftermarket paste now on the CPU and GPU but my GPU is overclocked quiet a bit over stock setting's and I have no fault's. The only complaint I have with the lapp is the fact you can't adjust the multipliers to overclock CPU even when using an xm model processor.

I purchased mine from the USA BTOtech.com built to order Notebooks Custom Gaming Laptops Asus Msi Lenovo very quick delivery and good communications and advice

 

I have a quick question:

Ordered a new GT780dxr with some custom stuff in the middle of last week from gentechpc. Ken told me the system will not begin to be build until Monday since they are on vacation ( I am from Germany so forgot about your Holiday ). Now, I noticed one nice tradition in US: Cyber-Monday and the "discounts" at gentechpc are actually nice. Kinda need an external drive anyway and the free no-dead-pixel means -80$ which is -100$ for me due to german 19% VAT.

Question is: could I cancel my order and place a new one? I am not familiar with US laws, here we can return any product within 30 days for a full refund no-questions-asked or cancel any pending order for free. Is the same available for US also? And is it "ethical" to cancel an order so I can remake it and get the promotion? If I would have known about Cyber-Monday I would have waited 4-5 more days since they were on vacation anyway

 

Just ordered my GT780DXR-446US RT from NewEgg (financing was easiest). I'm excited for it to come, only wish I'd paid the $20 for same-day delivery. I figured I'd come register and introduce myself.

I have a 60gb SATA3 SSD in my current laptop that I plan on moving over, and I'll probably end up re-installing the OS.

Funny enough, I'm not much of a PC Gamer (mainly because my current hardware sucks for it), and my most used apps are Emacs and UltraEdit, but I fully expect my search and replace to be lightning quick from now on .

In a couple more days, I'm sure I'll be asking questions. In the meantime I have about 400 more pages in this thread to read.

 

i heard there where problems with the touchpad and the keyboard is that true

 

I'm dislikin the touchpad (mousepad) and the keyboard a lot.

The scrolling isn't working properly.

The keyboard types P or Q or some random letter or even makes it like you're hitting some key when you are not.

Also when I keep writing like this, and for an example hit a character, it doesn't type that character I want it to. It's like ignoring the request of writing for an example T when I hit the T button. It works when I keep hitting T like now TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT but when I rapidly write sentences some letters do not get registered.

So if I write "sentences" sometimes it writes "senences" or even "sentenes", and yes I make sure I hit the key very accurate.

>_<

 

well idk what to do then lol

 

Didn't they fix the keyboard issues in the later releases? From what i read only the GT780R seemed to have them, maybe the first DX also.

Just canceled my order order and placed a new one for a custom build based on the 406 DX... It is actually cheaper and I did not know that the only difference between DX and DXR is the raid... no need for it since I added a SSD anyway.

 

how does the standard matte screen look from xotic pc on the gt780dx

 

For anyone interested, I played the SWTOR beta this weekend on my new GT780DX. At 1920 x 1080 and the highest settings, I was able to get smooth frames and the GPU never went over 70C.

 

The first post of this thread has info on how to fix the touchpad issues. As for the keyboard, it sounds like it is bad and needs to be replaced, contact where you bought it for rma help.

 

Hmm... I just noticed the deal at MSI's website for a free BatMan Arkham City game when you buy one of these. Any chance I get that from NewEgg? Or as a download? I don't have any games, but I sure would like to try one out when I get it.

 

Touchpad sucks in this machine. Just use a mouse and you will enjoy the computer way more. I have downloaded driver/reg patch & it still sucks only works good sometimes but I have to restart before using the touchpad...lol ridiculous for the price we spent on this machine but I really think screwed us over by providing a cheap touchpad.

Anyone know if the touchpad can be upgraded with similar size?

 

The DX can also use raid you just need to install the dxr bios, the raid control is software

 

Another question here... will this laptop support 2 external displays simultaneously? How about 2 plus the laptop screen for 3?

 

New Nvidia beta drivers are out.
Graphics Driver - Verde 290.36 Driver - GeForce
I did a clean install and Everything seems to be working fine.
Time to do some Benchmarking.
Cheers

 

nVidia Verde 290.36 BETA released

Graphics Driver - Verde 290.36 Driver - GeForce

RELEASE HIGHLIGHTS :
This is the first beta release from the Release 290 family of drivers.You can read more about this family of drivers on GeForce.com.

Product Support
This driver supports the following NVIDIA notebook GPUs (please refer to the Products Supported tab for exceptions):

•ION notebook GPUs.
•GeForce 8M, 9M, 100M, 200M, 300M, 400M, and 500M-series notebook GPUs.
•Quadro 5010M, 5000M, 4000M 3000M, 2000M and 1000M notebook GPUs.
•Quadro NVS-series notebook GPUs (only those that support DirectX 10 or higher).
•Quadro FX-series notebook GPUs (only those that support DirectX 10 or higher).
•NVS-series notebook GPUs (only those that support DirectX 10 or higher).
New in R290 Drivers

NVIDIA Ambient Occlusion

•Adds NVIDIA Control Panel ambient occlusion support for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. See the comparison screenshots on GeForce.com.
•Adds NVIDIA Control Panel ambient occlusion support for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3. See the comparison screenshots on GeForce.com.
NVIDIA PhysX

•Updates PhysX System Software to version 9.11.11.07 for the best PhysX experience in Batman: Arkham City.
NVIDIA SLI

•Added or updated SLI profiles for Crysis 2, Heroes and Generals, Inversion, Stronghold 3, and Syndicate.
3D Vision

•Adds support for 3D Vision over native DisplayPort 1.1 connection - available on BenQ XL2420T and BenQ XL2420TX monitors.
•Added or updated the following 3D Vision game profiles:
◦Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 – rated Good
◦Cang Sheng (苍生 – rated Good
◦Diablo 3 – rated Good
◦Fei fei (飞飞 – rated Good
◦Final Combat (大冲锋 – rated Good
◦L.A. Noire – updated rating to 3D Vision Ready
◦LEGO Harry Potter: Years 5-7 – rated Fair
◦Qian Nv You Hun Online (倩女幽魂Online) – rated Good
◦QQ Xi You (QQ西游 – rated Good
◦Sonic Generations – rated Good
◦Xian Tu (仙途 – rated Good
◦Yong Bing Tian Xia Online (拥兵天下 Online) – rated Good
HD Audio

•Updates HD Audio driver to version 1.3.9.0.
Some Key Bug Fixes

•Fixes random flickering as Windows boot logo is loading or fading away.
•Fixes corruption in Crysis 2 with SLI and lower quality shadow settings.
•Fixes ability to set Surround resolutions to 5760x1080 using custom resolutions.
•Fixes some random instances of triangular artifacts when playing Battlefield 3.
•Fixes corruption seen in Settlers 7 with 275.33 drivers.
Other Details

•Supports multiple languages and APIs for GPU computing: CUDA C, CUDA C++, CUDA Fortran, OpenCL, DirectCompute, and Microsoft C++ AMP.
•Supports single GPU and NVIDIA SLI technology on DirectX 9, DirectX 10, DirectX 11, and OpenGL.

Supported ProductsGeForce 500M Series (Notebooks)
GeForce GTX 580M, GeForce GTX 570M, GeForce GTX 560M, GeForce GT 555M, GeForce GT 550M, GeForce GT 540M, GeForce GT 525M, GeForce GT 520M, GeForce GT 520MX

GeForce 400M Series (Notebooks)
GeForce GTX 485M, GeForce GTX 480M, GeForce GTX 470M, GeForce GTX 460M, GeForce GT 445M, GeForce GT 435M, GeForce GT 425M, GeForce GT 420M, GeForce GT 415M, GeForce 410M

GeForce 300M Series (Notebooks)
GeForce GTS 360M, GeForce GTS 350M, GeForce GT 335M, GeForce GT 330M, GeForce GT 325M, GeForce GT 320M, GeForce 320M, GeForce 315M, GeForce 310M, GeForce 305M

GeForce 200M Series (Notebooks)
GeForce GTX 285M, GeForce GTX 280M, GeForce GTX 260M, GeForce GTS 260M, GeForce GTS 250M, GeForce GT 240M, GeForce GT 230M, GeForce GT 220M, GeForce G210M

GeForce 100M Series (Notebooks)
GeForce GTS 160M, GeForce GT 130M, GeForce GT 120M, GeForce G 110M, GeForce G 105M, GeForce G 103M, GeForce G 102M

GeForce 9M Series (Notebooks)
GeForce 9800M GTX, GeForce 9800M GTS, GeForce 9800M GT, GeForce 9800M GS, GeForce 9700M GTS, GeForce 9700M GT, GeForce 9650M GT, GeForce 9650M GS, GeForce 9600M GT, GeForce 9600M GS, GeForce 9500M GS, GeForce 9500M G, GeForce 9400M G, GeForce 9400M, GeForce 9300M GS, GeForce 9300M G, GeForce 9200M GS, GeForce 9100M G

GeForce 8M Series (Notebooks)
GeForce 8800M GTX, GeForce 8800M GTS, GeForce 8800M GS, GeForce 8700M GT, GeForce 8600M GT, GeForce 8600M GS, GeForce 8400M GT, GeForce 8400M GS, GeForce 8400M G, GeForce 8200M G, GeForce 8200M

FOuR1ER,beat me by 2 minutes.It's my 2 words a minute typing and pausing to drink my morning coffee.

 

hasnt the touchpad been fixed with drivers

 

Hello,

Can everyone observe the same thing on there laptop: the zone on the border of the screen is lighter than the rest?

 

thank you man, i had disabled the s-bar re-enabling it fixed my problem xD