*** MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5)/EVOC 16L-G-1080 15.6" Owner's Lounge ***

Pretty sure only the Notepal U3 or U3+ (U3 is easier to mod) because the design allows for easy fan modification with powerful desktop fans, with an external power source. It's worthless with stock fans except as an elevation raiser (which cools better just by that than the puny stock fans).

 

The U3 is hard to find, but I did manage to track down a new/open box one on fleBay for $40. Now to find some fans, a controller, and AC adapter.

 

The coolermaster AC Adapter is what I used.
I had a fan controller but it was so cheapy built that the Noctua fans could not even make proper contact, so I just went with a full speed Molex adapter
And it's hard to find fan controllers that are not overpriced and which actually do their job.

 

This is the adapter I plan to get, and the more I think about it, the more I'll probably just grab three Noctua fans since they should be quiet enough to not even need a controller.

 

Ha, yeah, balancing your laptop on an extremely large Fujipoly 1mm pad is not gonna do much for your cooling no matter how many W/mK it is!

 

oh yeah that's what I have. Coolerguys AC, not coolermaster.

 

The puzzle gets even more confusing...

My laptop's backlight now turns off when the power cable is plugged in (if I have switched it on myself), if it's not plugged in initially, and similarly turns off if it's unplugged.

I'm guessing this is a Windows thing again, but that doesn't make it any less or more easy to nail down. I would be considering reinstalling windows, but that is similarly impossible. Even to wipe the drive via windows commands is impossible, because the recovery partition is too small.

Does anyone know of a hand portable screen with a hdmi cable that I could purchase just to trigger whatever windows driver problem that allows me to turn the screen on only once it has gone to second screen only display?

 

I'm encountering thin white lines that sporadically flash randomly at times, I'm worried it might be an issue with the lvds cable or monitor (AUO b156htn05.2 120hz monitor). Has anyone encountered this issue before? I thought it might've been a GPU issue, but games have been running without performance issues nor in-game artifacts since this issue arose.

 

@Huniken
recorded 7 min of video from my phone when gaming yesterday after updated to 388.71 nvidia's driver.
for me this laptop is very silent at 4,7Ghz on 7700K and the Gtx1080 with RTSS and afterburner limiting it 61FPS and 1650Mhz/0,850mv.
Also on notebook cooler "thermaltake massive 23lx" loud enough himself alone.


temps in gaming (at 21°c ambient temp) are:
65c° CPU
60c° GPU (150W vBios) Now I can live and game in peace.

Without limiting FPS by RTSS, PUBG stay stable on High settings at 120FPS with GPU underclocked as before topping 73/74°c


Cheers

Edit:

Today I also repasted to check if the CLU has started to dry out..
very little spot was "burn", also changed same thermal pads with high quality one, but only peeps with desktop gpu with thermal sensors on VRM and RAM can tell us the difference between 3-6W/mk and the better and expensive one up to 17W/mk

Spoiler: many pics of repasting

alphacool/fujipoly 17W/mk 1mm height for ram




Here the burned spots




cpu seems ok so I only removed CLU on Bitspower's skylake IHS to clean it up and painted again the one on both CPU and back of IHS.
@Robbo99999 Thanks man I removed the kapton's tape from cpu (and put 4 small dot of glue at corners prior to re-close)



cpu and IHS seated



Bitspower's IHS CLU painting and Kapton everywhere



near the end no more pics

 

I've had this issue for two or three days now. It seems to be driven by pressure on the bottom panel, but continues even when pressure is removed, so I don't know what's going on, to be honest.

 

Perhaps something's pinching the cable. I'm going to have check that out myself (Eurocom hasn't been cooperative with my last service requests, so going through them's out of the question). Hopefully it's a minor cable issue and won't require a replacement. I've also noticed that the hotter my laptop is, the worse the issue becomes.

 

That's a good spot with the heat issue, I should tell Eurocom that.

 

If you receive any updates, do share! Thanks

 

Hi,
i am a new, very happy owner of Eurocom Tornado F5 (cyberbook). This little machine is a beast for sure, I like it very much. After the first week I have orderd the 120hz screen, which I have had it replaced (the repair guys was an idiot, and bend teh bazel a little bit where he has opened up, but I will survive). The problem is the black sceen with the flash of my phone I can see the screen, it show 120hz, however I cannot control the brightness in nvidia menu.

Could anybody help me how it could be fixed? After some google, I started to read the thread from 500, now I am 600 something, still cannot find the solution.

Thank you very much for your kind help, I cannot wait testing, overclocking this little monster

 

Is there any way to control the fans on Linux?

 

The temporary solution about DDU+372.82 driver works, however kind of lame to have the machine+this wonderful 120hz display, but does not work properly. At least I could test is, very good response time, very smooth under FPS games.

 

Get the lastest BIOS from Eurocom and it fixes your brightness and driver issue.

 

The laptop from cyberpower uk, not eurocom

 

Hello! I have tornado f5 with FHD 60Hz display, what I need to change it to 4k display?

 

The display cable 40 pin and (of course) the display

 

Thank you! Do you now part number of 40 pin cable?

I found K1N-3040042-H39

 

Yes correct,
MSI K1N-3040042-H39 4K is the cable.


Happy christmas to everyone

 

Do you know where I can find a copy of this driver? I looked on Nvidia's site, but I only find 380+.

 

I have googled it: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx

however this does not solve the problem, my laptop has black screen again... It was good for one day, now it has not backlight agian...

f%/=%!ing annoying....

 

Just to clarify, you did mean 372.82, right?

 

I apologize, I have used 378.92 driver (I have checked). However this DDU+378.92 does NOT work. It worked for a day, I have tested with external display and the laptop standalone, but today it got back where I started from...

 

try to conctact a famous modder on msi forum that work on donate, I think he can unlock the bios for you and/or upgrade to a new one maybe.

Or try Prema, but I think he cannot because it will break policy and contractual things

 

Thanks for the help, a couple of days ago I have contacted both, the "MSI guy" help me for some donation, which is nothing comparing the support he gave me. The machnine works perfectly, updated to the latest driver and VOILA the screen works perfectly.

Now, I only need to swap the 1070 for 1080 but I can use this beast with 120hz screen which is amazing!!

 

thanks for the many help for this great community! Merry Xmas for all of ya!

 

I am testing the laptop finaly (with working screen ), 4,5ghz runs fine with around 1,15V on 4,7Ghz 1,75V seems fine, however intel xtu show power throttling. I use a 330W charger and run IBT and Intel XTU stress test, so the gpu is not really using any power. What BIOS setting should I use to solve this? BTW if I set 47x in bios, it windows it does not really past beyond 4,5.... thx in advance

 

Is the power draw higher than 91W?

From what I read, the PL1 and PL2 power limits in the Bios (overrides) are ignored because of MSI's own cancer shenanigan code they used in their BGAbooks with machine ID codes (stored in EC RAM register E3). However Prema and Mr Fox tested a custom EC with unlimited power limits would just cause the laptop to shut down at 5+ ghz with high combined CPU+GPU load. Better to allow the GPU to draw full power at higher overclocks than allow the power delivery system to overload by the CPU drawing, let's say, 150W with the GPU already pulling 200W. I see how people may think "well, let's just let us overclock as far as we want and deal with the consequences, give us moar powa!". But nothing is fun about putting a 5.1 ghz binned SL CPU into your laptop, playing a game on a GTX 1080 that uses 4+ threads, and having your laptop just shut off.

If you really need more than 91W, you can set in Intel IA Domain, negative IMON Offset of -31999. This may not require the IMON SCALING support being enabled in Overclocking performance menu (try it and see if it even does anything).

 

Are you on an unlocked bios as well?

 

Yes, it was just unlocked by "MSI mod master svet" It solved the 120hz + brightness issue. Now I am trying to figure out a stable OC for the CPU and GPU

 

Um you didn't answer my question......or do you have me blocked or something?

 

Nice, I'll have to check with him if he has an updated one. I've had his bios since the beginning but I still get no backlight with the 120hz panel. For OC, it is all about finding that sweet spot with a balance of performance and thermals my friend. Mr. Fox has a nice 4.7 GHz quick start guide on the thread somewhere which includes BIOS settings. It's a good place to start

 

Thx, I will check it. Now I am trying to find some good voltage for 4,5Ghz and of course relatively cool temps, than do the same for 4,7ghz.

 

I am sorry. I did not find "Intel IA Domain, negative IMON Offset" in bios. I have put the turbo ratio to 83, it solved to have 4700mhz, however power limit throttle is still there....

 

The turbo ratio is a nice fix. Saw that mentioned before.
The Intel IA Domain is there the Core IA, System Agent, GT and Gt unsliced settings are, and where you can set IA AC DC loadline from auto to a value (hopefully 1-25). If your Bios is unlocked, you should find it. Looks like MSI moved it from the GT series.

It should be under "CPU: Power management control", nested in another menu.

*EDIT*
Check Overclocking Performance Menu.
It's somewhere around there.

i am 100% sure you have it because @aaronne are using it on their 16L13

Try enabling "IMON SCALING SUPPORT" in overclocking performance menu and see if the option reappears.

 

@matyee



time 3:02.

 

What I have managed to set so far CPU@4,5ghz -140mV, GPU core+200mhz, memory+500mhz. Firestrike 16k. I have played 2 overwatch game about 15-20mins: GPU 75 degree, cpu peaks 82 degree, but usually mid 75.

 

I was talking about this over in the gaming/graphics forum but I figured I'd cross-post it over here.

I was having some BSOD issues, especially in AC:U. It was crashing every 10-15 minutes. I figured out the problem by process of elimination after I saw Wolf II finally blue screen, so it wasn't just Assassin's Creed: Unity. Though, for some reason AC:U was BSODing way more often (every 10 minutes vs Wolf II lasting around an hour maybe..), and a number of other games never BSODing except Oblivion crashing often when I was trying that out. Not BSODs though.

1. Ran hours of passes of MemTest x86 booting off USB; nothing, so I figured a RAM problem was out the window.
2. Clean re-installed latest nvidia drivers, that didn't help. So much for my history of always doing the GFE express install causing issues. Now I have to set my damn profiles up again.
3. Malwarebytes scan to rule out malware. Was BSODing during the file test, but worked fine in safe mode, probably it's fault as I see people complaining left and right about MBAM BSODs doing google searches. Disabling Windows Defender didn't help it. Owell it found nothing in safe mode so.. whatever.
4. SpyBot found nothing.
5. Recalled that I installed the latest Intel WiFi drivers for my 8265 not too-too long ago. Downloaded them straight from Intel so the chance they were compromised is infinitesimal. Uninstalled those and just let windows use the ones it has in it's own repository (I think 19.x version vs 20.x.x ones that are brand new). Bam.. played Wolf II for a few hours last night, just played AC: Unity for around an hour or so... no BSODs.

I'll have to call this problem licked as I could never get more than 15 minutes out of AC:U without a BSOD happening, usually less.

Word of warning, don't install the latest Intel 8265 drivers, just use whatever came with Win 10.

EDIT: LOL... i was like hmmm.. wait a minute... Just reinstalled MBAM and ran a scan. I must have uninstalled it and reinstalled it like 5 times trying to to get it to get through a file scan without a BSOD previously. Since uninstalling the latest 8265 drivers I've now done 3 file scans in a row without a BSOD. Wow. Thanks Intel.

 

Weird to say the least! Almost didn't "like" your post, but you're a solid guy in my opinion, so figuring it's a thing! Isn't everyone else with those Intel drivers having that problem though?

 

I don't know. YMMV I guess. Perhaps it's conflicting with something else I have installed that other people might not? Shrug.

How often do people go looking for new WiFi drivers vs using what came with windows since it just works? It might also be specific to the EVOC for some reason, conflicting with something else installed on it (the MSI tools?).

Maybe someone else that has an EVOC can go try them out and see if they have the same problem installing them and it fixes itself uninstalling. Appears trying to play AC:U or doing an MBAM scan is a sure fire way to see the problem.

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...ware-and-Drivers-for-Windows-10?product=94150

The ones that come with windows seems to be 19.50.1.6

 

Yes, be interesting for other EVOC users to install that Intel WIFI driver to see if they have same issue - for curiosity/knowledge sake. Plus rep for posting about your discovery.

 

I've always had problems with the Intel PRO-SET Utility. Last year, it had a serious bug which prevented other apps from even loading at startup: Apps not loading on startup in Windows 10 [SOLVED]

Since then, I learned to only install the driver using the INF file and then install the Bluetooth driver that's fine.

Here is the latest INF only Driver: Intel WiFi Drivers v20.10.2

 

Since the 19.50 driver seems to be working optimally I'm just going to hang on this version. Thanks though!

EDIT: After reading release notes from all the driver iterations up to the current one there's two security issues fixed, I'll give it a try. Worst case scenario I go back to 19.50..

 

Ei guys, i have some update about the display 4k for the tornado f5/evoc 16l-g 1080, the AUO B156ZAN02.3 (for who is interested).

I tried to install the new nvidia drivers but nothing, it shows only the logo and after still black screen. But I found a nice driver that makes the screen work perfectly, the 378.66.
Of course I insist on doing these tests because between the samsung (crap) and this there is a huge difference.
My opinion (and not just mine) is the best 4k screen for our laptop.

if anyone knows some way to make it work with the new drivers, it's doing us a favor.
Thanks to Bro @j95.

@cavell219 , @Skylake_

 

Well.. that failed spectacularly. I was even getting BSODs on windows start. Had to go into safe mode and remove it.

 

Did you try DriverStore Explorer to remove older drivers permanently.

 

It was removed, I could see the system was using 19.50.1.6 after uninstall. There were no traces of it in registry, and the BSODs stopped.

Installing the driver-only appeared to work as it showed 20.10.2.2 being used in the connection properties and MBAM seemed to run a scan fine. I did a reboot and everything fell apart. Had to clean it all up in safe mode. When I restarted again 19.50.1.6 was back and everything seems fine again.