*** MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5)/EVOC 16L-G-1080 15.6" Owner's Lounge ***

Hi All,
I have continued the work after 1080GTX upgrade. With the new vbios nvidia driver works flawlessy, and I have also put cooling heatsinks on the VRMs. It is the the SSD heatsink, what can be purchased on Ali, cut in half Pls find the pic below. Cheers

 

Do the cooling copper heatsinks actually help ?
did you test effect of heatsink vs no heatsinks?

 

I have not tested enough, however the cpu temps seems lower a little, but not significantly. I will share some results later.

 

i tried it but after several unstable voltage tweaks i end up in BiOS loop the only to fix it is remove the CMOS battery? I don't want to extract everything (it's on the other side of the moneyboard) only for reconnecting the battery

 

there is a reset switch for cmos on the left side, right? I have not rested yet, but on the bottom cover it says reset...

 

Try doing what Matyee suggested and use the CMOS reset button on the bottom (hold for 5 seconds). Mine got stuck in a reboot loop once and may have been luck, but holding the DEL key during bootup allowed me to actually get inside the bios long enough to use the restore optimal factory settings which should overwrite any tweaks you made to the BIOS. If it is rebooting while trying to load windows,go in safe mode and uninstall the app you used to tweak the bios.

 

okay so first i try to detach the CMOS battery and first boot was 30-40sec on black screen next it restarted and just enter boot loop again
now just tried the reset button but it does not reset the bios since the clock still continue counting

 

@matyee - how did you attach those heatsinks to the VRMs? Just use the tape that's provided or something else?

 

with the provided tapes, seemed strong enough... the cpu temp dropped a little by a couple of degrees, the vrms cooled a lot (19V desktop vrms). I think its worth doing - especially for OC - as the VRM gets some cooling at least...

 

What did you use for cutting? Also, do you have a link to Ali listing where one can purchase them?

 

I used dremel for cutting, try to find the link.

btw, dont you know what thermal pad size I need for my clevo? I assume F5 needs the same thinkness...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cop...For-M-2-NGFF-2280-PCI-E-NVME/32874741909.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/8Pc...or-VGA-GPU-DDR-DDR2-DDR3-RAM/32800254052.html

 

Into what size chunks did you cut them? It looks like halves but it’s a little hard to tell.


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Half it, and you are good to go it takes 2 minutes.

 

Dont expect too much changes in cpu temp, however these VRMs are desktop ones using 19V, so they are crying for cooling these heatsinks can extend the lifetime of the little beast for sure only a couple of bucks and half an hour investment

 

For sure. Just ordered a few. Now I have to borrow a Dremel or have someone cut them. I can probably ask one of my co-workers to do it.

 

As I have finalized my beast, I have put an add for sale If anyone is interested shoot a PM pls.

 

the problem was that after unstable cpu blue screen crash the NVMe drive got all partition corrupted so there was no UEFI boot files... i got to format and reinstall everything from scratch :|

 

That should not happen.
Are you sure that your SSD is still working correctly?
Maybe the bluescreen was not the reason why the SSD lost crucial data, but rather the SSD losing crucial data caused the bluescreen.
Windows is quite sensitive when it comes to system files no longer being where they are supposed to be.

 

So I'm having a bit of an issue, I bought my eurocom tornado f5 for quite cheap, added in a 6700k, 16gb of ram and a gtx 1070 for some strange reason the display is blank. On hdmi the laptop works flawlessly but that defeats the purpose of the laptop as I need the internal screen to work. I've tried the hotkey at the top and it did nothing.
Does anyone know what the issue could be?

 

LCD is shot, or LCD cable is loose/disconnected?

 

The lcd is not even detected in windows, this seller has scammed me. I'm pretty sure this motherboard is done for.

It's not the lcd, most likely it's the cable or the mobo. I'm not willing to find out either, this laptop has a fan issue too, fan sounds like a tractor when idling.

 

If the LCD is not connected it's not gonna turn on at all, less be detected in Windows.

This system has notoriously flakey factory fans, they've crapped out on many owners within the first year and had to get replaced.

 

Tried another lcd and the same issue arises. I disconnected the lcd cable and the laptop boots fine on hdmi...

Forgot to mention this is the first gen tornado f5, the msi 16l1 not 16l13.

 

Has the internal panel ever worked in this system?

 

Seller said it was working fine, never displayed a picture of the laptop screen on though, I think I should return it. What do you think, this maybe to much trouble to waste more money on anyway.

Ive got a clevo P870dm-g and an aw 18 I needed this as a uni laptop, guess I'm gonna have to lug the clevo around lol.

 

I had a coffee lake mod planned for this system too, what a waste.

 

Sounds like you got scammed. Maybe it was cheap for a reason. If you checked the LCD connector on the mobo and the cable looks fine also, maybe it's a panel whitelisting issue in the BIOS or the screen is dead.

 

The cable looks flawless so does the connector, should I try flashing a new bios? I don't think it would make much difference.

 

Without knowing the model no. of the panel itself as well as which ones are whitelisted in the BIOS, it's a stab in the dark.

 

Could the vbios of the GPU affect the screen in anyway?

 

Nah, that's more in regards to G-Sync compatibility but it wouldn't prevent the LCD from displaying.

TBH I think the screen is just dead.

 

I tried another screen on it and it didn't work either, that was a 1080p edp panel too.

 

So a mobo issue then. Bad seller. Hope you can sort this out and good luck.

 

Yes, If the GPU came out from another system (Like G25vortex or the Zotac counterpart that all has MSI's gpus).
I don't know if here in the thread someone posted GTX 1070n vbios, but you could take a try with every other vbios that came out from laptop's with MSI 1070n (non q) in it or take a look on techspot bios db.

What cpu are you willing to put in Tornado F5?

 

i5 8600k, tornado f5 cant handle more than 8 threads so max upgrade is up till the i5 all credit goes towards @dsanke

 

Oh yeah thanks to @dsanke for this half backed bios full of hope
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15985220

 

What? 8700k in F5? How? Wow!

 

As a last resort can someone please link me their gtx 1070 vbios please?

I think it is a vbios issue, BTW I just flashed the coffee lake bios and I have a i5 8600k working right now.

If someone can provide me with a vbios I might be able to show some evidence lol.

 

I think I have a backup of my 1070, let me check at home.

 

Thank you

 

These are the two Vbioses released by MSI
First is stock GT73VR Vbios.

second is GT72VR (yes, I said GT72VR) Bios that was released then "recalled" by MSI for some reason (someone on forums having problems with it). Yet it works 100% perfectly for me in my GT73VR. I even TDP modded it to 230W.

Another 1070 vbios is "0D" but maybe you can get that from the official MSI page for the GT72VR. if it's even available still. That was the first gsync bios for it.

try them both.

THESE ARE ALL GSYNC BIOSES.
If you want a non gsync bios you can try the GT83VR version:

 

I will flash and test each one, its OK to flash directly with spi programmer right? Now that I have one it's so much easier to flash bios's.

Infact I fixed one of my faulty alienware 18 motherboards by just flashing the bios on it again, the skypro programmer is the best.

 

These can be flashed with NVflash.
Only modded bioses need to be flashed with a SPI programmer + 1.8v adapter.
I didn't post the 230W TDP bioses I modded. No one would want them anyway.

 

OK that makes it easier I guess. What are the chances the screen would work?
I'm thinking quite slim lol.

 

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/9878223

Some benchmarks while I'm sorting the issue

This is what is meant by a 'DESKTOP REPLACEMENT' lol

 

That piece of news is crazy!!!! 8600k or 8700k in this rig would be crazy amazing!!!

 

This will give those bulky clevo's a run for their money lol, especially the p750tmg/p775tmg

 

I have the 1BE1 variant of the card, so thats no gsync, I told eurocom to give me the g-sync card. Seriously this is annoying.

Can I flash the gsync vbios onto my gpu?

 

do you need to modify the cpu's leg?

 

Yep, making a thread REAL soon, Ill post the link here when it's finished, need this card to display on the internal screen first!