*** MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5)/EVOC 16L-G-1080 15.6" Owner's Lounge ***

You need to use the original cable.

 

The original cable is 30pin, the 144hz IPS is 40pin... so I assume new cable is needed...

 

I see, you have LVDS interface but not eDP, then in this case you can't use this panel.
The LVDS interface on the motherboard is probably a dual channel interface so it may not be able to go higher than 1920 x 1200 in resolution.

 

I dont get whats going on....

Erick182 said: ↑
Hi guys,
I've installed the AUO B156HAN07.1 screen today,
and is working perfectly,
144 Hz, IPS, 7 ms input lag

So I assume he managed to install this 40pin AUO ....7.1 144hz panel in the F5. I would like to know what cable is needed... I have checked the form, hinges, screw holes are identical to the well know 5.2 panel.

 

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/252953506712


I purchased this cable. It’s the 40pin eco cable for F5 and works with 1080p 144hz screens.

I offered $35.00 and they accepted.

 

THX a lot, I have also made an offer. Later on I will also make the 144hz upgrade just to keep the beasty alive. I am still waiting to see if there is any 20-as series card which fits in I hope that we can upgrade the gpu as well

 

Talon, so the cable works without any kind of signal conversion?

 

Would be grateful for some help . My B156HTN05.2 120hz monitor has gone kaput (severe artifacting on screen), and I was hoping to install a LP156WF6-SPB1 replacement. Received the replacement today, but it was completely black upon startup after plugging it in. Swapped back to the 120hz and it powered on (working also with a thunderbolt powered monitor). Any ideas??

 

Perhaps the screen is defective? Did the seller test the screen prior to shipment?
I am not seeing anything on the spec that would prevent it to work.

 

This is the cable that 4K owners were using when they got their F5.

Did that other guy report any need for changes? I will be getting a 144hz panel soon and will report back.

 

Some extra info about LVDS for your reference:
https://community.nxp.com/thread/320994

LVDS to eDP converter, max resolution is 1920 x 1200.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LVD...ler-EDP-driver-EDP-converter/32833400292.html

 

yep, the same cable that comes with the 4k samsung screen, no need to change anything

 

That is excellent news. 144hz Tornado F5 with CFL CPUs with the dsanke bios. This laptop may not have the slim sexy bezels of new laptops but it has been a beast for over 2 years.

 

Talon
F5 will still be a great laptop. It does not have power limitations on the processor and graphics card. In capable hands, this is just a BEAST machine.
(New installers are https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT63-Titan-8SX
maybe they are better than Asus?)

 

Great find! According to the user manual for this model, it is still using a discrete MXM GPU module, so hopefully it is compatible with the Tornado F5 / WT75 as an upgrade.

 

Hopefully yeah and I do believe it is. Laptops like the Tornado tend to last so long due to users keeping it so relevant despite generations of hardware passing by. Having viable upgrades helps a lot

 

I would like to know (or try) to swap our rgb 3-zone keyboard with the per-key rgb version of GT63 keyboard. If I remember well, the kb is glued on top? So change together will be advisable?
Someone has a source to buy?

And can someone please remeber (and list) to me what are the licensed and working G-sync screen for this laptop? I'm tired of this 120hz

 

I've been running the 144Hz B156HAN07.0 for about 6 months now, and it's going great.
Except I still have no backlight control and I'm stuck on nVidia driver 378.92 (any newer causes the screen to go black as Windows starts and the driver loads).

I'd like to fix it now but I don't quite know how to go about it. Apparently there's a BIOS update that does the trick, but I can't find a definitive answer.
For "BIOS Version" it says I have E16L1IE9.30C in system info, and down the bottom it says "Version 2.18.1263" with the Prema label. (Prema custom, purchased via HIDEvo.)

Can anyone help me out with that definitive answer? Where do I go from here?

 

The modded BIOS from @dsanke that supports 8th-generation CPUs in the 16L13 might help. The 120 Hz panel I use has no issues with brightness control or installing any NVIDIA driver.

 

Does our laptops have the ability to run those RTX 2080s like in the Alienware?

 

Maybe not officially but that will never stop folks from trying, and succeeding in doing so hah.

 

The big thing will be cooling on the 20XX cards. Not sure if there is a way to get a beefier heatsinks than what is currently available to us.

 

Dell use own proprietary graphics card design.

20XX cards have lower max TDP and bigger die.

 

Yeah I suspect cooling will be less of an issue.

 

2080 has the same of GTX 1080 TDP if I'm not mistaken.

@Donald@HIDevolution , do you think HIDevolution would offer such upgrades for current owners of the EVOC laptop?

 

Nope. Neither for desktop or Mobile. The Mobile version is crippled. http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-2019.826781/page-2#post-10843215

 

Guys,
Is this the good cable to use 40pin 144hz IPS panel in the MSI16L1X?
thx

 

Hmm....but that could be good for cooling right? Thermals and performance improvement over GTX 1080 is better with RTX 2080 correct?

 

Lower TDP is indeed lower temperature, but also lower performance as it is limited. this means that an RTX2080 is probably not that much stronger than a GTX1080, when in the desktop world its the difference between a 1080 and a 1080ti.

We will see once the machines get released. I am deciding between a GT75 and a GS75. If the 2080 max q is waaaay too crippled (beyond my GTX1080), I might get a GT75 instead.

 

Have you looked at the new MSI GE75?

 

I havent. Well I hadn't looked much into the GE series, it's the raider ones right? It seems they are like the GT series for gamers but perhaps a step down. thanks for the suggestion, I will check them out because I saw they do pack the full 2080?

 

Any suggestion regarding the cable? i cannot wait having 144hz in the F5

 

Let me know how you like it versus the 120hz panel.

 

Sure, but someone pls advise if the cable is correct... Of course I will write a summary I will bottom mod my 'new' F5, so I will write a sum up about my new little beast with 8600k and unlock TDP 1070

ps: regarding the panel this chimei 120hz day and night comparing to the BTN...5.2... it has very good colors even though it is a TN. TBH I am very satisfied with this 120hz ChiMei panel, however I would like to test the 144hz IPS

 

Guys,
What are your fans speed in the F5? My silentfan optin shows less than 4k for cpu and 5,5k gpu... if I put my hand at the vent holes I can feel that the gpu fan is pushing the air much stronger. I have adda fans in the F5 (replacements).
Thx

 

I have stock fans and max speed of them are 4000rpm.

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My fans goes to 3800rpm max. Meantime with all this hype around new rtx mobile gpu, I pushed mine gtx 1080 a little more and prior to this... Conductonauted it!

So here the result, broke 20K pts. barrier and stay fresh and cool



https://www.3dmark.com/fs/18093590

GPU +210core/590mem 200W vbios
CPU 4.7Ghz all-core, no avx offset

 

I have read some tests about RTX cards, but 1080 vs 2080 for me it is not convincing atm, 1060 vs 2060 it is different story. Hopefully we will see more tests in DTRs to really see if it makes a significant difference.

 

There is always a larger jump in the mid range than in the high end range. the 2080 is not quite a 1080 ti but definitely stronger (20-30%) over a GTX1080. I haven't seen the 2060, but it's probably around a GTX1070, so should be a 45% increase at the very least, over the 1060.

Of course this is all regarding laptops, not the desktop counter parts which are stronger. Particularly in RTX where the 2080 laptop seems to be around a 2070 Desktop in RTX.

 

Based on the test, it is not 20-30% stronger in FHD. Still huge question mark about the upgrade.

 

Where did you get those scores and tests? They seem all over the place. The performance difference grew larger over 1440p, and possibly even larger at 4k, but what systems were tested? I would like to read the review

 

huh, the problem with the averge improvement is those games that either receive a massive improvement, and those that hardly do. I think on older games and e-sports, you won't get improvement as much but then again the framerates on those games are insanely high.

In more modern games like BF, Watch dogs and tomb raider there was around 20-40% improvement at 1440

In older games it was more like 3-10%.

And I bet this is probably going to widen at 4K.

Are there any RTX2060 reviews yet?

 

I was watching an italian Hardware Upgrade channel on youtube and it seems the RTX2060 is slower, and up to par with a GTX1080 max Q. At worst, the 1080 max Q is about 15% faster, at best, the RTX2060 is a bit 5% faster.

In some games the 2060 was about 35% faster than a 1060. Results seem also all over the place. Perhaps the limits of TDP control? Seems like the laptop 2060 will be around the normal 1070 but perhaps will fare better in higher rest due to higher memory bandwidth.

 

rtx2080 doesn't fit into our laptop ((((in gt75 2080 it’s just huge) they expanded it 2080 wider than 1080 ((((


It seems to me that she also has a power cable.
Can there be a version without a power cable? It remains to reap and hope)))

 

OK, but I do not really care about 4k and 1440p. For FHD this is a joke... +300-400EUR for 10%? Come on, I can throw my money out of the window, it is rather easier to waste

 

For current games perhaps, but newer games are going to see improvements. Then again for 1080p any GPU below a 1070 is the only reason to upgrade if you want max performance without compromise. Higher end GPUs are always sold for higher res.

It's the reason why the 1060 was popular besides being cheaper, it allowed high quality graphics at 1080p at 60fps.

My laptop might be 1080p, but I use my TV to play several games and the GTX1080 served me well. Had my goal be only 1080p I wouldn't have ever gotten a GTX1080. Now I am looking into keeping this performance level, but make it more portable. But obviously that's just me.

You are also acting as if we didn't know this was going to happen, specially with the lackluster RTX desktop launch. We knew and had good guesses where all new GPUs would fall around.

 

My hope is that MSI has used their existing GTX 1070 / 1080 format for the new RTX cards in the GT63. The user manual does say that the GPU is using a MXM format, so all we need to do is wait for a teardown review of the GT63. @GenTechPC do you plan on doing such a review for the GT63?

I am guessing if the cards are sold separately the price will probably be pretty high initially. I am seeing $1000 for the Clevo RTX 2070 and $1400 for the Clevo RTX 2080 on Eurocom's site right now, for instance...

 

Oh wow, those prices are indeed high. You have a good guess though, I hope the GPU fits in theory, and there are bound to be a couple of MXM models.

 

Sure I'll do the video review for GT63.