*** MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5)/EVOC 16L-G-1080 15.6" Owner's Lounge ***

You have to right click on the display adapter in device manager, click update driver and then after that's installed and you restarted the computer, you can install the nvidia one you want


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It took me a total of 15 mins to delid using the Rockit tool, clean and apply a decent amount of CLU to mine. And a single tube of CLU can easily do at least 10 processors.

 

Still not rules



Aida seems detect , what can i do ?


http://imgur.com/a/AKHxu

Fixed

Good first impresion

 

Wow thats fast, it took me about 30min with the razer blade. It was the first time delidding a cpu.

 

Does it still work?

 

Pshh I'll finish mine in under 5 min guaranteed


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My first three CPU delids were done with a razor blade. My fourth, 7700K, was done with the Rockit88 delid tool.

 

With the delid tool its super easy. I had done 6-7 delids before this using a razor blade and that takes time and a lot of care.

 

I don't think you can even guarantee 5.0Ghz on a random 7700K, here's an article about 7700K overclocking on desktops ( http://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/03/intel_kaby_lake_core_i77700k_overclocking_preview/), where they say that:

"We were also able to confirm that we could not get our other two 7700K processors to 5GHz on those motherboards as well. One of our other 7700K processors was however stable at 4.9HGz with the other stable at 4.8GHz. With both of these lower overclocks we were able to complete these at 1.32v and 1.30v. Even pushing these lesser processors up to 1.45v vCore would not net us stability."

There's a lot of talk here saying 5Ghz is always achievable, I say not so based on that article at least.

EDIT: they then took the same CPUs that wouldn't reach 5.0Ghz & then delidded them for lower temperatures - they still couldn't get 5.0Ghz on those chilled CPUs! That's at this article: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/19/intel_kaby_lake_i77700k_cpu_delid_relid_results/

 

Can any help me to overclock and undervol a bit the Tornado ?

What software must use ( XTU , ThrottleStop ) ? And values ?
Thanks

 

I'm typing on the laptop right now, it works but I still need to put CLU on it and glue the IHS back on. I only put some crappy thermal paste on for now.

 

I use XTU with undervolt, I cant really overclock since its blocked to 4.4 on these bios.

 

EVOC 16L-G-1080 15.6" Custom Built Gaming Laptop w/ nVIDIA GTX 1080

Review of this laptop, it's the same as the Tornado F5: EUROCOM Tornado F5 Mini-MonsterBook Review Thread

This laptop is based on the MSI 16L13 but it's also loosely based off the GT62VR because it has the same look and feel of that model but with a thicker chassis to accommodate the desktop components

Quick Overview
EVOC 16L-G-1080 Custom Built Gaming Laptop - 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) IPS or 15.6" 4K UHD (3840x2160) Samsung PLS Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology Antiglare Matte type display - w/ nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 with G-Sync Technology - Intel 7th Generation "Kaby Lake" Delidded, Under Volted and Overclocked Core i7 Unlocked Desktop Processors - 8GB DDR4/2400MHz upgradeable to 64GB DDR4/3200MHz - Up to 2x M.2 2TB PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe or SATA SSDs + Up to 1x 2.5" SATA III 2TB HDD or 4TB SSD - Windows 10 or Windows 10 Pro (Optional)

 

I love this laptop's specifications in terms of delidded CPU, RAM, etc. and best of all its keyboard!

Not for me though as it's 15.6"

anyone planning on ordering this?

 

You can pay SVET a bit of money on the MSi forum to unlock your BIOS. No XTU bloatware needed.

 

This one GTX1080 MXM is 150w TDP cap, shape is similar to the GT83 version and uses similar VRM/VRAM heatplate as the MSi GT83 (idk if the master or slave). The heatpipe looks (mostly) unchanged from the GTX1070 version, with slight change on where the contact point with the die sits.

One mean hotrod for it's size class. Though the GTX1080 upgrade costs an arm and a leg.

 

Does anybody order to cyberpower UK? How was it?
Other questions:
- Does anyone change the keyboard? How difficult is it?
- Who find a good seller company in Europe?

Thanks

 

Is this an MSI rebranded EVOC ? where does it fit in that sense. Also I agree that keyboard with spaces between the keys is a winner !

 

It is based on the MSI 16L13 but it's also loosely based off the GT62VR because it has the same look and feel of that model but with a thicker chassis to accommodate the desktop components

Agree, the keyboard is dope, this makes this laptop the highest performance 15" laptop with an awesome keyboard that is miles away better than the Clevo keyboards

 

Actually I prefer the older style of non chiclet keys, but each to their own.


And yes, this is a true MSi "whitebook" barebones version. You can order a bunch of these from MSi since they cancelled the retail version of this specific laptop (likely due to too high R&D cost and difficult marketing) and they'll give you a good reseller price with low MOQ.

 

Ahh I see.Noted on this. Thanks @Phoenix for the clarification. I Would personally be interested to see if it can be offered with a GTX 1070 option.

 

Eurocom has the base configuration with GPUs other than a 1080. 1070 and 1060 included.

 

Hey you guys, I just ordered some clu and wanted to know if the heat sinks on both the CPU and gpu are made from copper? Also, what temps did u achieve with it?


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It's made from copper.

Also make sure your CPU is delidded.

 

We do not offer it with the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 or nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070. For that, I would recommend the EVOC P750DM2-G.
.

 

Hmm, only partially true. The barebones MSI has will not support the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080.

 

That's why Eurocom say that they make custom heatsink and vbios for 1080 iirc.

 

Very low results..

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11929983

More and more low...

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11930023

 

I would not expect high scores using 3dmark11 under windows 10.

 

If the motherboard is a bottleneck, or the bios, that doesn't mean the CPU can not handle 5.0Ghz, just means the hardware it was used on can't help it and maybe even hinders it.

that physics/CPU score is very low,am I missing something here, it's 50% or is just because this is not firestrike ?

I recommend XTU, it will write to the hidden menu's in the bios too when it works, so you won't always have to tinker with it either, but it should be as simple as just putting 4.5Ghz or 4.6Ghz on all 4 cores, and the other limiter at say 4.5ghz (core cache). By the default it should have more then enough power and voltage to achieve this and the bios should allow it too. (no matter which bios you have on the F5..)

 

By default the system should be able to just set 4.8 or 4.9 ghz without you doing anything but changing the multiplier.

 

I missing something here , i buyed 16GB at 3000mhz , and only works at 2400mhz , its normal ,?
With the low scores of CPU , and this..im worried..


https://postimg.org/image/890ffwxvx/

 

You need to set XMP to get it to run at 3000Mhz
It shows big as day in your screen shot.

 

Thanks , how can i set XMP ?

 

You set it in your bios. Not exactly sure of how the bios may look at this time, but it would be under the memory options.

 

does not apear in the tornado bios

 

Your going to have to change the memory speed in XTU yourself, if it holds the setting for now, until you can access the JEDEC timings in bios. Otherwise use spdftool or thaiphoon burner to remove the first two sets of timing, set a range like 1500Mhz only on the profile, because right now it see's 2 profiles at 1200Mhz and 2 at 1500Mhz.
Without being able to select which dimm profiles the RAM is using your gonna be on the default based on the profiles in the RAM itself which says CAS 14 and 1200Mgz (2400Mhz..)

Just remove the CAS 14, and CAS 15, leave CAS 16, and then remove 1200Mhz and leave 1500Mhz that's how you will have to trick it to use those speeds by default.

 

I concur. Just use XTU to set XMP. It will write to the bios if XTU has been unlocked by the Manufacture.
It may take it as long as 5 minutes or so to boot up, so just be patient.

Also be prepared to do a cmos reset if it gets stuck in a reboot cycle.

@woodzstack That sounds like a lot of work for a new user my friend....A lot can go wrong with that.... And TB is not free.

 

Really , im worried with this results.
The MSI GT73VR-7RE of muy friend with 7820hk and gtx 1070 obtains better result than this " beast ".

 

Did you throttle at all during the benchmark?

 

During 5 of Aida Stability test...no comments ..underolt in XTU is -0.085 V
And fans is in MAX


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That looks like the stock paste job you get. I think i've posted multiple results very similiar, hence why everyone is repasting and in most cases doing a delid and using LM paste etc...

 

I wonder why?

 

I payed for CLU

 

Yes, true. But this is a person who went and purchased thier own 3,000Mhz RAM after all... that's like going to a hardware store and buying a quart of oil yourself. Now you have to change the oil and filter and do the work yourself too...

That's what I assume anyways. I only mentioned what to do, because, well, no one else was going to say what to do, lol. Thaiphoon still costs 20$ or something ?

 

Wonder why? This has been a well know fact since windows 8 came out.

Well, I kind of took my cue from his questions being asked.... but I totally get your line of thinking on this as that was my first thought.

Not sure on price, but yes. To alter files it cost money. To look at them is free.

 

Oh this is a repaste ? Then, do you have the fans on at all or are you on silent ?
There has got to be a rational explanation, I've seen and handled over a dozen of these laptops so far, and I know what to expect from them at this point.

Usually, even during long benches like Prime 95 you will see 85C on all 4 cores at 4.5ghz. But thats with the fans on Max too.

Now playing games, the temps would be 65-70C on max fans, and like 85-90C on silent mode.
So running a bench on silent would make the fans increase a bit , but not overly crazy, and would be in the range of 95C.
I have also seen that these heatsinks do not rest on the GPU or CPU die all the time perfectly, very bad implementation, they're not perfect touching so very thin paste jobs might not work effectively, which means you might never easily get a good thermal paste job, with either LM or Gelid Extreme etc.. then your real only options are like Grizzly Kryonaught or ICD7 which are thick thermal pastes.

I think I remember feel dirty when I saw that I had to pay... they guy basically recycled some freeware from someone else, an older version of spftool. People with make money if they can, I guess that's just life. I'm so against bad customer service it's like a thing....so forgive me haha (which I entirely blame DELL for...)

 

I guess my own memory runs at 2400mhz also when it runs at 2666mhz. These bios are yet to be unlocked.

 

@Mr. Fox has the golden goose landed?

 

In a week's time, I have several employees that are going to order this machine and my company is going to give them a rebate of $500 to $1000.

I am in love with this machine. I have taken it to all of my meetings with clients and a lot of them are impressed by it. So I've given a lot of free press to HIDevolution and I hope they get a LOT of sales for the EVOC version. I'm even thinking about selling mine and rebuying it from HIDevolution.