*** MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5)/EVOC 16L-G-1080 15.6" Owner's Lounge ***

4K is LQ156D1JW04 (25ms, 60hz, 90%-ish sRGB) - can anyone confirm?

I think the gsync method is eDP adaptive refresh rate.

 

Amazing bro! you are like me in the sense, you want peace of mind and want nothing but the best. Great move about that Silicon Lottery CPU/Delidded, will help keep those temps down during intense action
also, it's great from Donald to add that screen to the config for you as you were speaking. This would remove any buyer's remorse and you know you got excactly what you wanted. I don't think even Eurocom offers such configurations and that 3200MHz RAM! I've never seen that sold anywhere! Amazing man.

Very happy for you

 

I think only @Donald@HIDevolution can confirm the screen model at this point since no one has this laptop yet.

 

Yes brightness control is usable via the NV control panel but is merely a software brightness control. Hardware level brightness control isn't there. That said 100% brightness would be where I would leave it anyways in most situations.

 

Flux is a good application if the whiteness of the screen is too much at night just an fyi for you guys


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It's a Samsung PLS panel, 72% NTSC color gamut. That should be about equal to 100% sRGB, but not Adobe RGB.

 

Samsung PLS - 156FL02-101

 

Hey guys, between this one and clevo p750 ??? Better in quality and temps ??

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yes, of course, we tried with G-Sync off. I don;t think he is having g-sync related issues, those are specifically different

That's a tough call. I say the P750 because you can use Clevo/cheaper (price wise, but quality higher) pascal cards. Temps.. well they call the F5 the tornado because of maybe the sounds of the fans going nuts for a reason.

 

So, JC3 pretty much instantly crash. Yeah, this is a bit of nightmare. @woodzstack

 

What bios are you on or have you updated to the bios with 7700k support. When I updated to the newer bios the button to turn off and on the track pad doesnt work anymore.

 

I think I'll stick to this thread (even though my MSI 16L is from Eurocom) and provide helpful advice. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. I have the 7700K/1080 version with completely unlocked BIOS.

 

I think @syscrusher might get great tips from you

 

I'll help him push this monster to its limits and beyond. I want that 5.2Ghz! Either me or Mr. Fox has to get this machine to that magic number!

 

I am on the original BIOS that came with the laptop. I never unlocked mine and never requested an upgrade to the latest versions. I would not be able to tolerate not being able to disable the trackpad, that would be a very large issue for me.

I'm on BIOS E16L1IE9.100 build day 6/29/2016

@birdyhands I had forgotten about flux! Thank you so much! This is excellent for night and makes this screen perfect for night use.

 

Just checking to see if you're using the latest nVidia drivers (378.49). It might not be related but I found this lovely item in the release notes under Win 10 fixes:

http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windo...0-win8-win7-desktop-release-notes.pdf#page=13

 

LOL! While I'm amenable to, and grateful for, any suggestions, please read my other posts before you get too excited. I'm a boring, middle-aged engineer who's buying this beast as a developer workstation. I don't have the luxury (nor the need) to risk even a little stability in pursuit of a tiny performance boost. Give me a 4.8 GHz overclock with rock-solid stability, and I'm a happy camper.

I may be the guy watching and reading with interest while you max out the next one.

 

@Phoenix - I just realized that there is already an Owner's Lounge for this notebook model. As much as I liked the idea with HIDevolution being as awesome as they are, it seems redundant. Maybe just updating the original thread title would make more sense since they are the same product.

The Official MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5) Owners and Discussions Lounge

 

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Does anyone know what screws are on the gpu heat sink and where I can order some actual metal ones that don't friekin strip!? Also how do I take it out if it's stripped


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Take a rubber band and use the screwdriver through it. The rubber grips the metal and lets you get enough torque to pop it free.

 

mmmmm.. so dirty. prrrrrr

 

I can get about 870 max... but if you run a firestrike or a CPU bench like prime 95 scores seem normal. I think XTU is penalising you by 40-45% based on not recognising CPU.

 

wait, what ? How is this not in dual mode. What if you only have a single sodimm inside or have 4 of the same. Still happens.

 

Yea I literally have a good dozen 7700K to choose from. I used to only have 2-3 at a time, and gave my customers the choice of which to have, but I stopped offering that option. Too time consuming, and in the end, they were pretty much all identical once delid. haven't really seen any variance.

 

Yup, I'm aware, there are too many reasons why this happens in JC3 though, according to our best friend google which has many results of these crashes in JC3 and fixes.

 

SVET is working on the unlocking of the bios for Eurocom currently, and about white listing the panel, might be him doing that too. not sure If I'm okay saying other people's business like this, just thought to share it as a curtsy, as this is what I have been updated with.

 

Excellent news. I have myself requested this exact thing from him a few days ago. He said he might be able to do it but wasn't sure as he has never done it before. When I get home I'm sending him my current bios, ec, current and previous panel names.

Can someone give me a picture of hwinfo64 panel ID for the Stock LG gsync?

 

oe better yet, let's merge them and merge the model numbers

@Charles P. Jefferies

can you help us with this please?

once done, I will contact the OP of the Tornado F5 to copy/paste my first link in this thread which has the info about this model as well/pics

 

this one?
Monitor Hardware ID: Monitor\LGD046F
attached the screen too.

 

can anyone share the link to display color calibration software that works with our laptop? thanks.

 

You need a calibration device to use with any sort of calibration software.
There are plenty out there like -
Spyder 5 series
I1 Display series
Color Munki series.

 

Throttling...throttling every time.. @Eurocom Support ( New Tornado F5 , with I7 7700K and GTX 1080 )

Fans are at max

This system is supposed to be overclocked, and without doing anything, it already has these values ...

 

my score was same 830ish when i had ram in single channel. once i fixed that and the dual channel started correctly the score went 1300+ on same settings.

 

thanks. u think the profile notebookcheck has for gt62vr will work with those software? they use MSI truecolor but its not working for me it says incompatible hardware.

 

Does the throttle happen during gaming also, or only when stress testing?

Truecolor looks for the laptop ID in the EC/BIOS, same as Steel series. There is a slight chance the software could be decompiled and messed with to make work but it may not as the panel could be different?

 

After play 4 minutes BF1 , i want full refund from Eurocom

 

yea maybe. thought both have the same panel. loaded the color profile from notebookcheck review and its alot better, better thn what i could have achieved!.

 

Read.... Same for @istojanovic
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cussions-lounge.797128/page-281#post-10444341

Have said it before... "Fix your thermals" Of course you have throttling with too high temp!! Pretty normal if you ask me

 

must be poor, very poor paste job. my cpu was max 70-75 after 2-3 hours bf1 on auto fans(6700k).

 

Yeah I am also agreeing with everyone else that it is the paste job, but you shouldnt have to immediately repaste a 2k+ laptop. I know a large number of us here would no matter what but some don't enjoy doing this. Eurocom really needs to better QC their paste jobs...

 

7700K has garbage tier thermals until delidded. Expect a 10-20C drop.

 

And Liquid metal instead of a top notch thermal paste will make the temp results a lot worse with a uneven-warped heatsink!! Also said in previous posts!! Stop the complaining... Fix the underlying problems first.

The paste job is probably excellent. But You can't get it to work if the heatsink have bad fit on IHS with Coolaboratory Liquid metal applied. Old knowledge. Confirmed he use it in previous posts. And @istojanovic stop using your machine with heavy tasks. Fix it before you kill your chips. Or let Eurocom do it.

 

i payed 45$ to eurocom for CLU.....
To trash..

 

Kabylake vs Skylake on gaming has 0% gain, no improvement clock to clock

http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-vs-core-i7-6700k-cpu-performance-tests/

really a bad generation, just keep in skylake, and you save extra money

i have a 6700 non K, 4 GHz, about 4 hours of gaming the temps are 60 C on auto fans, I think is the best cpu for a laptop, the 300 MHz extra for the K versión is not worth all these extra temp

 

K can be overclocked or left at stock 4.2ghz and undervolted to match the 6700 non K power consumption.

 

Yeah, Don't complaining on the processor. Fix the thermals and all will be good.

 

You do not need a software to use those profile.
Just use the windows color management.

 

yea figured it out, thanks.

 

That's not a bench though, thats playing a game. **** when I play most games on the other F5 I have temps are like 55C-60C max. Only in benching does it go past +70C's-80C's