MSI GS63VR Stealth Pro Owner's Lounge

Both the GS63VR and GS73VR

 

I can't answer that until we have them in hand. However I can tell you those temps in the Notebookcheck review are not what we are seeing with our nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 builds. They must have received an early factory build.

It is 4:45 AM here...I am OUT until Monday.
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Thank you very much for your help! Let's hope MSI nails the execution for the models.

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I remember seeing a link to the gs63vr dissasembly instructions from msi in a onedrive link can anyone post it real quick?

 

I don't know why you didn't try a fresh install of windows and spare your time and nerves figuring out what kind of unnecessary software is causing you trouble. I'm saying that because before buying it i knew that there will be a ton of bloatware, buy after the first launch i have realized how unnecessary and performance taxing all of that crap was. I just use dragon center for fan curves and led control, sometimes shift.

 

I noticed one thing, that you can not access realtek control panel if you have not installed nahmic, which is strange for me. However it is not required to run, i've turned it off from autostart.
Also intel wireless adapter has really huge problems with interference with bluetooth signal, using a bluetooth speaker and using internet at the same time can be really painful experience. I also noticed that sometimes it can be improved if moving to a spot with better or i should say straighter signal from the router.

 

Hello guys
I have the gs63vr
And the Lg 27ud88 wich has a usb-c connection
I tried to connect it to my thunder bolt 3 laptop but it is not working..
Anyone tried to connect a usb-c monitor ?

 

the gs63 stealth already runs hot on the 1060

I doubt the 1070 could run in that 15 inch chassis without severe underclocking from the factory.

 

@Donald@HIDevolution said that the cooling system would be able to handle the 1070. I thing they might upgrade it (at the cost of a bit of weight) to deal with the 1070.

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The MSI CES 2017 presentation had a presentation on the new cooling boost system, basically ramping the fans up, I skipped through it and just caught the comparison - there might be other info, check out the full presentation:

MSI CES 2017 Presentation - See 20:02 to start Cooling segments


Note: I watched a different upload early, this one is uploaded by WccftechTv, I thought the one I watched was an MSI upload, but now I can't find it - this one is sharper

LIVE STREAM REPLAY; Special Guest in new MSI Laptop (GS43 7RE 1060 / GE72 7RE 1050ti) Launch!


Cool, there is new cooling hardware on some of the laptops - in this MSI Laptop Launch - at about 3:50:



There's boo-boo's in the video, he overlay's the correction(s), but wanted to note that the following Doom demo is also on the 1060, not the 1050ti, look to the OSD info to verify the GPU used during game play to see 1050ti performance.

Another "gem" at 19:30:

 

Great find. Let's hope they implement it well on the 1070 GS73VR.

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honestly I see no improvement here. Here is a video about existing GT73VR's internal

 

That 2nd video covered the GS43 7RE 1060 / GE72 7RE 1050ti.

The GT73VR already has the 1070 and 1080.

We are talking about the possibility of a 1070 in the GS63 and GS73.

We have to work with what information is made available.

 

I did and it reinstalled all the same crap. Yes I know there are ways to force a clean install but I have to get on with my work and didn't want to repeat the procedures again, installing my apps, moving my files etc.

But then you go contradicting yourself by saying you install Dragon Center while that's the one I had to get rid off to fix my issues.

 

Is this normal behavior? When my GS63VR has been closed and sleeping for a while it doesn't turn on automatically when I open the lid. I have to press the power button. My old HP would turn on and I prefer that.

 

Mine does the same thing

 

Im going to swap the lcd for a GS60 3k Screen and bought a whole GS60 Assembly with screen , cables and everything...Anyone know how i get a hold of an Extra bezel? How do i contact msi for the part?

 

oh well I misunderstood your meaning of "new cooling hardware" since 3:50 in that video is showing GT73 picture. Curious about cooling system in new 1070 GS63 too. There is also a new version of GTX series coming out with "MaxQ" technology. Which reduced performance a little but dramatically reduce the heat and TDP.

 

i wish there were some fan control software compatible with all new gaming laptops so we can manually max out the fans when we want.

A lot of brands could use faster louder fan speeds

 

Nooo, cooler better quieter more effective fans, but not noisier.

Noisier fan's aren't fun for anyone - those using the laptop or those living and working around it.

Much better to not annoy others with fan noise - makes for happier lives.

 

that's why I ask for manual control.

When these laptops are pushing 90C during gaming, crank up the fans and game volume.

These thin laptops are not going to get any quieter fans. Their fins already push max surface area, and there are max number of fins.
The only thing we can do is to spin them faster, or find some way to cram 2x 10cm fans in these thin cases

 

Exactly...thin and light, 1060 or 1070, you can't have cool and quiet.

Would you buy a Ferrari and expect it to be quiet?

You can't have it both ways.
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This is the behavior MSI wanted their product to behave, with max rpm on the fan and capping the temperature at 90C. Stuttering issue can happen during gameplay, see if you can call up a fps monitor to verify existing graphics setting in the game as well as trying a lower quality setting to ease the loading.

 

I'll take cool over quiet. The 1070 is going to be a difficult card to cool in such thin machines, quiet or not.

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That is also why I hold out more hope for it to be cooled properly in the GS73VR, more surface area, more room for the cooling system.

@Donald@HIDevolution - What max TEMPS (P95 and FurMark) do you see on 1060 GS73VRs (CPU and GPU) with stock paste? Notebookcheck says 95C CPU and 86C GPU.

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The cooling module(fan size, pipes) for gs73vr is EXACTLY the same as gs63vr only some waste space in 73. So current gs73 won't have a better cooling than gs63.

 

a review of GS63VR 7RF 7700hq and 1060.

Waiting for 1070 model...

 

It looks like extremely soon if this Canadian website is anything to go by. They are expecting their next msi shipment on 2nd Feb of many models and look what was included in the list http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=537445

 

They already have GE72 with 1070 in stock. (Which currently only has 1060)
So I think the 1070 GS63 will come very soon.

 

That looks great. On this French site, there's also gs63vr with 1070 AND full HD (=a little cheaper). But no delivery date (well, I couldn't find a specific date, nice to see that it will be probably available in February! At least in Canada ).

http://www.comparez-malin.fr/informatique/pc-portable/msi-gs63vr-7rg-009fr.html

 

I would be very interested in seeing how a 1070 runs in the GS series, will it be a lower tdw part maybe, or just have a very aggressive fan profile? We will have to wait and see, but i definitely see it being a good solution for the 4k GS and those who use these machine as their sole gaming rig, in my case since i have a gaming rig it makes little sense to me as the 1060 with a good 1080p display is great in terms of quality vs performance and still very good on my dell gsync 1440p monitor. So the 1060 definitely had a bit more room, wouldve been good to see a 3k display option as that paired with the 1060 or even 1070 would be amazing in terms of FPS/quality.

 

Hi! I just bought a GS63 and have some problems with it:
1. My system from time to time has these hickups where everything lags for a second. Also writing text sometimes feels laggy. For example writing this comment and moving the blinking text bar with the arrow keys stutters from time to time.
2. My laptop has a very loud coil whine when I am not deactivating c-states in bios. I am unsure if I can leave that deactivated. Would you suggest getting the Laptop to MSI for that? Will they replace the motherboard for coil whine? And will they reset everything? I wouldn't want to have to configure everything. (How are your experiences with RMA, expecially the one here in Germany?)
3. I am connected to an external Display most of the time and have the lid closed. If I want to power up the laptop I always have to open the lid a little otherwise it won't start.
4. If I want to watch fullscreen Video in Chrome it just shows a black screen. In Edge it works normal...

 

Hello,
1 - Those micro stutters are (most probably) caused by switching the graphic cards (a problem with optimus or drivers of some sort)..... If you set the dedicated card to be preferred, those micro stutters should go away (at least it helped me with mine ). This solution was proposed in a GS43vr forum, I didn't look there if there is any other solutions, but it's probably nVidia driver problem if I remember correctly...
2 - Well, I'd say try taking it to your seller/ask MSI service support (with an audio record) and you'll se what they'll tell you.
3 - The power button doesn't work if the lid is closed, probably safety feature (why did they put it THERE in the first place is a complete mystery to me).
4 - Hm, that's odd.. Don't have a clue what could cause this.

 

I just wanted to chime in as a new owner. I think this is the thread?

(probably not that interesting unless you're considering this model for uses similar to mine: photoshop for photography, light gaming with potential for fps (shooters) at 1080i at decent frame rates. My expectations have been exceeded and in a very lightweight machine)

Hidevolution
MSI GS63VR 6RF Stealth Pro 4K-021
16 GB Ram
Stock MSI 512 sata SSD
Stock 1 tb mechanical
Coolaboratory paste on CPU
Intel wireless card by Hidevolution
Win 10 home clean install
Spare power brick (family room and office)
MSI Interceptor DS100 Gaming Mouse - $30.00


I hadn't had a gaming rig in a few years. I saw frame rates from 1070 and was looking at a heavier model with upgraded storage and overclocked CPU.

I travel 6+ weekends a year for sports photography. Light weight, sufficient storage (1.5 Tb is more than sufficient for all needs for next 12 months and convenient since I already off-load old photos after a few months) > moar power.

On discussion with Donald at hidevolution, I realized I needed light weight more than I needed the other features. I'd have loved a touch screen for editing photos, but I can blast out cropping on my MS Surface Pro 2 as I've been doing for a few years. I've recently upgraded camera bodies and now my files are larger and there are more of them. Recent edit session shows that SP2 is still up for the tasks I use for photography.

I'm having sufficient frame rates for all titles. I'm ok with 1080i and whatever settings I need for smooth gameplay.

It gets a little noisy during gameplay, but that is not an issue for me. It runs a little bit hot sitting on wooden lap desk, but manageable. Power brick gets warm if it isn't ventilated on sides as I learned once by accident when it got covered. Not crazy hot, but too warm for my comfort. The computer appears to get warm during extended play, and I'm considering sticking something metal underneath to conduct heat.

I'm playing Civ 6. I could play that on the SP2, but screen size, etc. And that integrated CPU wasn't up to running newer fps games I want to play soon. I kept the digital hoarding to a minimum during holiday steam sales.

Order process was smooth. Donald actually talked me down off a heavier ledge that would have been much more inconvenient for travel when every pound counts. I often have 25 lbs of gear so another lb makes a difference for flights.

I don't recall turnaround time being slow. I'd ordered over Thanksgiving and got it in a reasonable amount of time. I'd had it shipped to UPS store so I wouldn't have to meet a driver for signature.

Unboxing: it was quality multi-boxed and very safe packaging. I felt like I was getting a high-end, premium product. I'm not usually impressed with packaging, but this was slick. Using machine feels that way, too.

 

Apparently it is somewhat normal. I used two gs63 from bestbuy and amazon and both has coil whine.

 

welcome to the thread~

btw your pictures in siguature seem dead

 

Some quick questions about this laptop:

1. Are the fans always on, even at idle?
2. Is there any lag due to Optimus? If so, what is the work-around for it?
3. Does the 1060 throttle?
4. What temperatures does the new 7700HQ reach? Same as the old 6700HQ?

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1. no, and you can also set it through dragon center yourself. (My setting is: both cpu and gpu fan won't spin under 50 C)
2. I did not experience any lag
3. No throttle
4. not sure, I will say the same since the higher clock

 

Thanks a lot for the help!

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Hello there,
1 - the CPU fan is always on by default, but it's completely silent (spins at around 1200 RPM) - of course (as

mentions) you can turn it off.
2 - I experienced some stutters (due to Optimus? Maybe) - there's a way to get rid of them - force use the GTX1060. Mine did stutter when clicking on battery icon in the lower right corner in Windows 10 for example...
3 - No (if you don't block the intake vents of course ).
4 - I'd really like to know that too, I'm kind of scared that it's going to be a little warmer (when I watched some desktop processors comparisons, 7700k was running a little warmer than 6700k), but we'll have to wait until someone confirms it.

 

How do we do that?

 

Thanks very much!

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It should be in the nVidia control panel (some option where you select what app you want to run on what graphic chip and there is a way to select it globally), but I don't know exactly now, because I don't have my notebook back from RMA.

 

One can set the nVidia GPU as preferred global renderer but my understanding is that this doesn't make Windows entirely run on it.

 

Windows and Windows applications are all forced to use iGPU, even when set to use Nvidia / Discrete GPU globally.

 

That is true, you can't "shut" the integrated graphics completely (unless there's a setting in BIOS that allows it), nevertheless setting the GTX1060 as default renderer solved those stutters for me.

 

Anyone that runs both Prime95 and FurMark at the same time is like a little kid trying to break their new Christmas toy. There is absolutely no point in doing it. In no way does it resemble real world uses.

We run AIDA64 Extreme for stress testing the CPU and monitoring temps with HWinfo. AIDA64 seems to be the most strenuous software that yields the highest temps. Also, AIDA64 can really get a CPU running hot within seconds if there's an issue with the thermal.

We stopped using FurMark so, no we never ran both at the same time.

Stock TIM TEMPS

CPU TEMPS Idle: 43c Max: 87c-89c

GPU TEMPS Idle: 39c Max: 77c-78c

Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra TEMPS

CPU TEMPS Idle: 35c Max: 76c-79c

GPU TEMPS Idle: 38c Max: 69c-74c
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Of course it doesn't. But it does show to what extent a system can handle extreme loads.

 

I agree but I never said both at the same time though. Thanks for the information! Do you think it will be able to handle a 1070 without just throttling to hell? I am not sure it can.



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I apologize if I misinterpreted your meaning of 'and'. Had you said 'and/or' or 'or' I think it would have been more clear.

I don't think MSI would be putting it out if it could not handle the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 under heavy load, but until they are released and we actually get them I really cannot give you our testing temps.
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