MSI GS63VR Stealth Pro Owner's Lounge

It's an odd situation, some seem to have this issue even after doing the right set up, configuring a named Profile within XTU to Save the Apply'd settings, and has been reported solved by uninstalling - rebooting - and reinstalling the latest version Run As Administrator - rebooting - give that a try

 

what ssd do you use? some ssd like sm951 is pretty common being hot.

 

I updated to the latest bios several days ago. Notice nothing....I cannot even understand what change log says.....

 

Alright, thanks. In the meantime I managed to make Throttlestop load after wake from sleep as well following tips here: http://www.sevenforums.com/general-...efine-task-run-when-computer-wakes-sleep.html
I had it already starting up on boot up in a similar way.

I like TS because of the more expansive config options but XTU is cleaner as it doesn't need to run to function (supposedly).

 

Hey Guys, so just for anyone with the 001 model, i wanted to let you know i have succesfully swapped out the display for a Samsung LTN156HL01 and what a difference that makes. Now its as good looking as my GS60 but lot faster, now on to the SSD, waiting for my NVME drive and once i do that swap i believe im more than ready to go as i had already installed a 1tb 2.5 ssd, also i did not break the bezel nor any clips on the bezel for those who said it coudnt be done...just be really careful and the bottom clips slide upwards not towards you if you keep this in mind you wont break them, the rest is glued on pretty much and its strong stuff as when i put it on the new screen it glued back on right away worst case one may have to touch up with a bit of glue but no big deal. Just figure out what works best for ya. Now im truly in love with the GS63VR as I shoudve been form the start!!!!

 

The 128 G SSD is there but both SATA slots are listed as 'empty'. Will MSI fix it even if it's deemed my fault? (I'm fine with paying if it is, I just want it fixed. Speakers sound a bit weird too but i'm not sure if they like that before as I use a soundbar to improve sound. I'm terrified to take it apart as some folks reckon it's a pain to put back together. :-(

 

If it's under warranty MSI will take care of it free of charge unless there's a physical damage then you may be charged by MSI for any repairs done on the machine.

 

In North America you can break the sticker to access internal without void the warranty. So just go and reach MSI for repair

 

Hey all. I'm having a hell of a problem with my gs63vr. I reinstalled everything and now my headphone jack will not work at all. Anyone with this issue.? If i go back to ms driver it'll work fine. Even in nehimic it doesn't register.

Any help would be appreciated.!

Thanks.!

 

Thx for your feedback.
I did a fresh install, not a recovery of the MSI image, didn't install any of the MSI drivers or tools (except SteelSeries Engine) and let Windows find on its own everything it needs and so far so good, after a full day of working , the HHD never went above 33°C and the SSD stayed around 45°C. Actually, now I can tell that the drives went to sleep, previously they never did. So no heat issue anymore, I'm happy finally happy with this bad boy.

 

I just did a fresh install without the MSI drivers and everything works fine. I just did a Windows update and it found everything on its own.

 

It's the M.2 Toshiba, don't know which model exactly. All I know is that it's PCI Express and not SATA.

 

Hello,
I'd like to ask - have you had any issues with the spacebar on GS63vr keyboard? I mean as it's put inside the chassis, I would sometimes hit the edge of the keyboard with side of my thumb, which is not overly pleasant.
@eurodj101 @Taisol

 

Could you explain what you were doing when u hit it?

 

I just normally type on my keyboard/use spacebar to jump in games - while resting my left hand on palm rest and hitting spacebar with the tip of my thumb (that's when I'd usually hit the edge of the keyboard just below spacebar (right where the thumb joint is), because it's "pushed into" chassis of the notebook). Chaotic description a little...
Now I feel like a nitpicker, but it's actually mentioned in one of the reviews on YouTube.
(06:15) - better explanation than mine.

 

OK now I know what you mean, and yes while playing ive had to adjut how i place my fingers....hehehhee...small comprimise i guess.

 

I think I've had to do this with about every computer in some way, whether it is where to hit the space bar, or the placement of the arrow keys, size of the touchpad etc. Every brand and model has little differences that take some adjustment.

 

Anyone know if the AKitio Node will work ok with the Gs63VR ive sen the videos of it working on the MBP which i have but id like to know if i can use it for the GS63VR as itd be interesting to me anyways to stick a 1080 or 1070 in there to game on a 1440p 144hz monitor, and before u say antyhing i have a desktop rig with dual r9 290x ad a 1080 in a box waiting for me to do a case swap, also have a 1070 lying around (don't ask) . I just find it possible to use one machine for evereything without sacrificing much, when it comes down to it 250 plus a GPU say 400 to 580 for a 1070 to 1080 seems ok to convert our mobile porwerhouses into full fledge gaming rigs, also i assume thermals wont be an issue as long a syou place the gs63vr in a laptop pad as the Internal GPU would not be used for gaming...any thoughts??

 

Should work, thunderbolt 3 dock is still so expensive right now...

 

Yeah But so far this one is coming down to 250 which isnt bad at all considering the other options....

 

That's a relief. I'm not even certain it is my fault the drive isn't working, but the desk was a little bit clammy around the time due to the high humidity of a Queensland summer when it stopped working so I'm wondering if the two are linked. There's no sign of water on the unit and no other damage, so I'm hoping it's just an unrelated fluke. I wonder if I could ask them to swap it out for an SSD (I'd pay to upgrade of course) if it is deemed my fault. The machine never went dead, all ports and graphics cards are working, so i'm hoping I just got a bum hard drive. speakers seem a bit better after I reinstalled the drivers.
Thanks for your help!

 

That's a relief. I had a toshiba laptop once that died during warranty and they refused to fix/replace even though I did nothing to the unit. I contacted MSI & they're collecting it on monday. Anyone know how long they'll take to repair it?
thanks for your help!

 

Well that depends on where you live, but when I sent my laptops to a warranty repair, usually it didn't take longer than two weeks (including 2-day transport).

 

Hi there! I'm new to the forums. I've been using a GS63VR-7RF Kaby Lake since December and I'm just wondering when I should get worried about temps? I'd always put the laptop into my bag but I recenly got a Logitech G900 which woke the laptop up from sleep mode while it was in my bag. When I got it out, it was really hot but this was only for around 30 mins max. Is that fine or should I have my laptop checked if it damaged any internals? How long does it take in a situation like that to fry the internals or something. Sorry if I seem naive, it's my first gaming laptop.

P.S. Do you guys experience repeating keys like the key is being held down once in a blue moon?

 

Hello and welcome.
If your notebook hasn't stopped working, it's probably fine. Also I think there's (or at least should be) a feature in CPUs/motherboards, that shutdowns the PC if the temperature is too high.

That "repeating key issue" is mentioned in this video (rather in comment section):

The reviewer basically returned it, because he was experiencing the same thing as you (+ micro stutters).

 

I saw that video before. So it's actually a hardware defect? None of you experience it?

 

I don't.

 

Did you force the system to use only the nvidia video card by default? I just changed that setting now and it seems to have gone away (micro stutters). Not sure if it will return...

 

Yikes. I really love the laptop other than those issues. You think it's hardware or can it be corrected in the future?

 

How well are the hinges holding up for all of you? It seems a lot less stiff than when I first bought it and I'm wondering if it's loosening up in a bad way. My screen will fall shut on its own when there I measure a 5.5 inch opening or less which seems like ALOT. My old asus never did this, so I'm wondering about everyone else. At what point should the screen fall shut by itself? If so, is there an easy way to tighten it?

 

That's difficult to say. I'd recommend contacting the MSI service about this issue, maybe they've something to say about that.

 

Are you sure its the problem of the mouse which woke up you laptop? My mouse won't do anything when the lid is closed. Check your power options

Don't think it will fry

Two months of usage. Never experience it once

 

It's probably a new "feature" of GS63vr 7RF (7700HQ), I haven't read about this issue in connection with the 6RF model.

 

Just tried. My screen will fall at 5 inch too but it's still pretty stiff on larger angle. I think its because the metal case makes the screen portion heavier?
I think you can tear down the machine to tighten it but I won't worry about it so far.

 

Maybe I should print out your comments and that of the reviewer in the video?

Thanks for the feedback. Yikes. I think it's only the 7RF that experiences it?

I hope this isn't the case since most likely all replacement units are going to be the same? I really hope this kind of fault can be corrected via driver or firmware.




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Thank you! I was getting worried since I remember it being so stiff when I first got it. That is possible, the asus has a plastic screen housing and probably bigger hinges too since the whole thing is a brick.

I have experienced this. It happened 2 days in a row in late December and never again since. When I would type "asdf" for example, it would delay a few seconds and then come up as "aaaaaaaassssssssddddddddffffffff". It was usually a much longer string of letters, pausing between each letter change. But it always spammed every letter the exact same number of times matter what I typed so that alleviated any worries that it was physical keyboard issue. I think I may have reinstalled the steelseries driver.

 

My GT72 also wakes up when I move my mouse, so it's probably somwhere in power settings.

I hope it isn't a hardware problem, beacause I'm planning on buying one later in february.

 

Guys, quick question. Since I wanna diagnose this keyboard thing properly how do I install a fresh windows 10? Should I create a recovery image backup from the MSI dragon center? OR my office has a blank windows 10 I can install on my laptop legally.

 

I wouldn't waste time reloading the OS for the symptoms you have posted. You have a running system, and the behavior you are having is minor and expected - stop using Sleep and power off your mouse before you put it in the bag.

Repeating keys can be turned off in the Windows Keyboard control panel, or the SteelSeries app might have that option brought into it's interface too.

Windows 10 is doing lots of stuff in the background all the time, so if you get a glitch while pressing a key it can stutter and repeat if you have "repeat" enabled.

The wake from sleep could be avoided by not using sleep, and also disabling Hibernation is a good idea too. In a Windows cmd window Run As Administrator:

powercfg /h off

Then reboot and you will be rid of FastStartup/Shutdown problems, and as long as you don't explicitly Sleep instead of Shutdown you won't have a mouse waking up the laptop.

Also, I always shut off the mouse via the power switch on it before putting it away in the laptop bag, otherwise it will run and waste it's mouse battery life.

 

Quick question @hmscott - What is the problem with hibernation? I see you recommending turning it off in many laptop threads. Does it reduce the lifespan of the device? Or is it just an possible fix to some problems?

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Thanks a lot for the detailed and quick reply! I'm glad that it's a problem that can be solved because I'm neck deep with stuff to do and that would cause some downtime.

I usually turn the mouse switch off but my mistake was to shut the laptop lid first which brought it into sleep mode then I would turn off the mouse (I guess I accidentally pressed the mouse button which woke up the laptop). So what I do now is turn off the mouse first then the laptop.

A follow up from my question though, how long would it take for a gaming laptop left open in a bag to do physical damage to the internals? Or will the computer trigger a fail safe shutdown when it reaches a certain temp? Just for the sake of curiosity.


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Sleep and Hibernation are the most problematic and oft broken features in Windows. Nvidia drivers and other drivers as well as MS break it soon after it's working, and this has been going on for years.

And, now SlowShutdown and FastStartup play havoc with reloading drivers and software because they preserve some state and don't actually fully "shutdown" or cleanly "start up" when in operation.

FastStartup depends on Hibernation, and even though FastStartup can be turned off itself it seems Hibernation and SlowShutdown aren't stopping their activity.

Hibernation is the quickest most direct root cause to disable.

I also don't use Sleep, mostly for the reason that @prinzhernan experienced, but I went through it many years ago, with Mac's and Win Laptops waking up the bag - like during a long trip and it's dead when I need it for a meeting.

These days boot up is so fast on SSD that I really don't even see the need to waste time on Sleep or Hibernation, and the problems they have caused me over the years to keep them working have wasted far more time than those features could have possibly saved me

 

The only problem I've had is burning my fingers on the laptop when pulling them out

The GPU and CPU would thermal throttle, reducing the load on everything, but not enough to stop from getting really hot.

Depending on what you have running when slept, you could come to thermal throttling quickly, or it could idle for hours until it runs out of battery power.

There have been cases of screens going bad due to running with the lid closed, that is much longer term running hot than a couple of hours in a laptop bag, but that's what I would be most concerned about.

Batteries that are sensitive to heat might be a problem too, but I haven't heard of any breaking down so far.

The rest of the parts should be ok.

There are other wake on events besides keyboard and mouse, so network / wifi traffic can wake up a laptop too.

These days I go through the Device Manager and find all the wake on events and power saving events and USB / PCI bus and device power down and I disable them all, to avoid a variety of issues, interruptions, disconnects and other anomalies.

I always thought along with a better laptop lock, laptop accessory makers should offer a laptop/bag thermal sensor with an alarm to go off should the laptop heat up in the bag.

Not just to protect the laptop and your backpack contents from heat - "my tuna sandwich!!", but also to avoid finding out later you have no laptop battery power remaining because it was wasted running an idle laptop in a bag

 

Ah well that's exactly what I wanted to hear. I'm a bit obsessive compulsive and kinda felt sad that I might have fried something inside. So your explanation definitely puts my fears aside.

I'll definitely do that and disable anything that could wake the laptop, thanks for the tip!

I hear ya! I do keep a sandwich in my laptop bag and wouldn't want the mayo and egg ruined by the heat. Haha!


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Also if you disable hibernation, you can get rid of hiberfil.sys that usually takes up to tens of GBs, so you end up with more space on your SSR/HDD.

 

That's correct, and if you have enough RAM you can also disable the Windows Pagefile and save the space used by pagefile.sys

On a 128GB SSD running on a 64GB machine, that's... amazing you could even get it to work before disabling Hibernation and Pagefile

 

Hi guys,
I'm having my GS63VR since October, but BF1 has just arrived
In-game I'm seeing some spikes of CPU temp going up to 83 degrees Celsius. I'm having a custom fan curve and a undervolt of -180mV.
Is everything normal? I'm a bit worried, I always like to be sub-75 degrees.

Thank you all in advance.

 

Hi,
It seems you're getting perfectly normal temperatures (and great undervolt figure as well).

Here:
in comment section temperatures while playing BF1 are discussed, if you're more interrested.

 

Hey, thanks for the quick reply! In a future maybe I'll change the thermal Paste with a bit of CLU, but nothing for sure

 

Be very careful with liquid metal pastes - @hmscott will agree with me.

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