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    MSI GS63VR Stealth Pro Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Diversion, Aug 29, 2016.

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    I am doing the same. I have no reason to believe that it can't be done. Will update once drive arrives. To take apart see: http://www.ultrabookreview.com/12757-upgrade-ram-ssd-msi-gs73/
    I was able to get to HDD, but not SSD - very hard to disconnect all cables from motherboard. Would appreciate anyone who has done so to post tips, photos, and/or video. Thanks.
     
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    Linustechtips' review of the GS63VR
     
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    Wow, 100% CPU usage "problem" solved - it's a performance feature of MSI Dragon Center to improve performance - it fools the system into thinking there is high usage when there isn't - see 04:00 forward to 4:57

    This feature is on other MSI laptops too... a simple toggle off.
     
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    Can't decide between this and the Razer Blade with the 1060.
    Any advice?
     
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    First off..here's a video showing the issues i'm having with the computer.


    Just in case you don't feel like watching the video, I'll attempt to type it out for you. Just a quick disclaimer, I'm sort of new to using computers for anything other than casual usage. I've been getting into it more and more in the month that i've owned this computer, but forgive me if I sound like an idiot.

    So, when I restart my computer it turns on and idles at about 10 to 12 % memory usage. Then, when I run a program or a game, get done, close steam and the game out, the computer is still running at about 50% memory. The game is no longer in the task manager, and I'm not running any other software on my computer at this time.

    What is the issue here? Why doesn't it go back to 12% memory usage instead of 50% when it's literally just sitting here idle? If I restart the computer again, it will go back down to 10 to 12% but I really don't like restarting my computer 10 times a day, it's not exactly good for the components.

    Any suggestions you might be able to offer are greatly appreciated. Like I said, i am new, and I can take being called an idiot. Thank you.

    -Twodancingcretins
     
  6. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    This does not sound like an issue per se. Have you researched if maybe Windows 10 behaves like that? Do you incur any performance issues?

    You have a valid question, so no one is calling anyone names here. I never looked at my memory usage before because I haven't had problems. I will monitor both my personal and work laptop to see if it's a windows 10 thing.
     
  7. Slayer.ani

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    Check out linustechtips' video review of the laptop. It's a feature of the laptop (or dragoncentre i think) that it makes the pc believe that it is working at high capacity so u can do tasks fast when u need to do them. There is a way to disable this. That may fix your problem. Check out the video, I've posted it above.
     
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    My GS63vr arrived! 1080p 128gb m.2ssd 1tbhdd model. Im canadian so my model number is 6rf-008ca. My display panel is LP156wf6 according to HWINFO (is that the LP-156wf6spk1 model? How do I check?).
    It is an amazing laptop in every way that i expected. The screen is crap so I plan on changing it. The 1060 is a beast!!! Im happy with it. So thin and light. Maxed setting on anything at 1080p!
     
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    Here is the dissassembly guide of the gs63vr 1080p 128gbssd 1tbhdd canadian model. I hope it is helpfull to anyone that needs it. Please if you have a 4k msi gs63vr please please please post your screen model number. Heres the guide for all to enjoy..... unfortunately it says the uploaded file is too large for the server. Its 5.2mb . Any advice? Its a pdf and I want to upload it with this post
     
  10. Sfairat.Od

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    You could upload it to google drive/dropbox/etc and post a link here, it'll be quite helpful. Thanks!
     
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    The 4k model gs63vr panel is the LP156UD1-SPB1 . I read this on http://www.ultrabookreview.com/12557-msi-gs63vr-review/ just now.

    Panelook info: The pixel configuration is listed as RGBW Rectangle. I think that means it's 4k pentile :(.

    I think if the pixel configuration was listed as RGB vertical stripe then it would not be pentile and thus would be better as RGB vertical stripe has a full 3 lights per pixel?

    Someone please pm me their email address and i will email you the msi gs63vr dissassembly guide for you to split up and post here. I tried zipping it but couldnt get it under 5mb which i think it needs to be under to attach it to a post.
     
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  12. Derek712

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    Pentile is a Samsung thing, not LG. I'm not sure why RGBW would be a bad thing, but the screen looked very good regardless.
     
  13. Sfairat.Od

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    Here're the links gdrive onedrive. Don't intend on removing those ever, so they should be alive for a pretty long time.
    Thanks to @jpsjosh for providing the PDF!
     
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    Thank you Sfairat.od! :)

    If anybody has the gs63vr 4k model please email MSI and request the dissasembly guide. Tell them you want to change the hard drive and dont want to improperly disasemble the laptop. They will email you one as long as you have registered your gs63vr 4k laptop with MSI. It will have the part number of the 4k 4 lane 40 pin lvds/edp1.3 cable i need. I only have the 1080p disasembly guide hence the lvds cable listed is the 2 lane 1080p one. My MSI hero Tom is on vacation. Thanks in advance to anyone who can get the guide!
     
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    Leave it to Linus to figure out what it was :D. I'm glad anyone else who gets the laptop will be able to enjoy it now free of any hassles. While I'm kind of sad that I won't be able to try it out no problem free, I won't complain since I ended up finding a good replacement with a 1070 and a 4k display.
     
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    Hi, just a quick question. Are there any power banks compatible with the specs of this laptop? (MSI GS63VR)
     
  17. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Notebook requires a 180W (19V 9.5Amp) rated AC adapter to work.
    Power banks won't work well with such power-hungry system.
     
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    So as promised, I was able to replace the HDD with an SSD (Samsung SSD pro) using previously quoted disassembly instructions. I was able to install Windows 10 on the new drive and boot from it. The bios setting was helpful for making the installation USB first in the boot order. I could not see both SSD drives in the bios, but Windows 10 now allows me to dual boot either from the new SSD or the original M.2 SSD.
     
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    Thanks for info. Any way of extending this laptop's battery life aside from just carrying around a charger?

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
     
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    If you are always on the go and have a vehicle, you can use an inverter to convert from DC to AC power and then use it to charge the system.
     
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    Alright mate, thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into that.

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
     
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    No problem, feel to free to post questions again if you have any.
     
  23. Josh Feliciano

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    Hi guys, can someone with a gs63vr please run the Heaven benchmark, running on battery? Please use these settings

    Directx 11
    Quality = Ultra
    Tessellation = Normal
    Stereo 3D and Multimonitor = Disabled
    Anti-aliasing = 8x
    1080p (or system if your panel is already 1080p)

    My numbers running the above test are pretty terrible (sub 500), and are half as good as the Predator (980m) this laptop was supposed to replace. I'm not sure if something is wrong, or this is just what to expect.

    I'm asking for an on battery test because my gaming time is on the train, when I don't have access to power.
     
  24. ryzeki

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    For the time being check the battery settings on the nvidia control panel, maybe it is set to low performance instead of a target. Usually nvidia implements frames per second targetting when on battery (lets say, 30fps).
     
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    Thank you ryzeki, that's a great thought, but unfortunately it looks like that is currently off. I also made sure that I'm in "high performance" mode in windows, and Dragon Center is using the "gaming mode" settings.

     
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    The highend GPU's aren't designed to run on battery, they shutdown most of their function to reduce power and try to sip power while on battery.

    I wouldn't be surprised for a newer more powerful GPU to reduce it's power below the previous generation models, the trend is toward better battery life - not higher power drawn on battery.

    When I have been on the train, you can find power outlets all around, just ask - you may want a long cord - carry some duct tape to hold it against the wall and out of the passage way.

    The dining cars, lunch room cars, and observation cars usually have extra outlets - use a multiple outlet device to share, and get to know someone ;)
     
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    AC adapter can provide from 180W to 330W, or even 660W when combined to obtain highest performance.
    However, the battery pack is just about 50W, so not much performance can be expected from battery, and not near future. :)
     
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    Thanks guys, I absolutely expected lower performance than on AC, I just didn't think it would be worse than previous generations on battery. Not to mention the battery life is abysmal, so I'm not seeing any benefit. I'd still like to see confirmation that other people have similar scores but it's looking like I'll be returning this laptop and sticking with my Predator and get double the performance.
     
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    Did you make sure all your Power / GPU / MSI Dragon Center performance settings are on highest available while on battery?

    Most people go the other way, reducing to "Power Saver" and likely that's what MSI Dragon Center is doing.

    Go in and manually set everything to highest performance settings while on battery - making changes while on AC may only be for while running on AC.

    Also check the new Nvidia Control Panel and Geforce Experience Battery settings to make sure you aren't set for power saving there too.

    Then re-run your tests on battery. :)
     
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    Last edited: Oct 12, 2016
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    I get a score of 480. I'm using a GS73VR but the internals are pretty much the same. That's pretty normal considering the battery can only supply the GPU with 30-35W. Any higher and the battery will be damaged. The 980m could perform better at that wattage since it was specifically designed for notebooks. I'm not positive, it's just a hunch. I'd go by actual gaming benchmarks over Heaven though. The games you play could run just fine, as they might rely somewhat more on the CPU.
     
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    Hey Derek, I really appreciate you running that. I just wanted confirmation that something wasn't wrong in my configuration, or I was missing something obvious in my setup.
     
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    the review has a big mistake .

    hdmi is version 2 and it can support 4k 60hz, that s what i am using right now

    i have it connected in my samsung 40ku6000 at 4k 60hz, via hdmi cable.


    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
     
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    A Super-Slim VR-Ready Notebook! MSI GS63VR Review (GTX 1060)
     
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    Am waiting for my 001 from Best Buy. Had the Apache but wanted the VR and that extra kick. Am coming from a 5+ year old, 8 lb Sager NP8130 (with a GTX 560m), so have been obsessing over this. Tuesday can't come any sooner??
     
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    don't do it, i am so disappointed from the screen quality i have approach msi to take the computer back in my own country (israel) and no response from them at all for a week
    i even wanted to add more money or extend to return policy so i can bring it back to the united states,
    right now my computer is for sell and im not touching it , this is the worse i have ever seen in terms of screen quality and colors.

    return the 001 model asap,
    not to mention it has slower HDD and SSD, and lack of killer network doubleshot chip,
    all the reasons i bought this computer was missing from best buy model and i only found out once my relative brought it here to me in israel.
    and msi support does not even acknowledge my ticket in their website after registering my product with proof of purchase (recite)
     
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    As I've moved to the US, I've sold my old gs63vr to a friend in my home country and asked a friend at the US to order another one here (6RF / 4K version). Sadly, after unpacking it today, I saw a bunch of bad pixels near the middle of the screen (they're white when they should be black), so I'm gonna call MSI support tomorrow and discuss replacement options. Got it from online store, all the boxes were intact, the laptop itself also didn't look damaged so I didn't even expect anything strange with it. Another thing to mention is that power adapter's cord was packed in a little bit messy way (not as neatly as it usually is). Poor QC?
     
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    Do a DOA exchange with the online store because MSI may or may not provide warranty repair depending on the amount of dead pixels.
     
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    Yea, after some thinking I suppose that it'll be better to contact retailer first. There're quite many white pixels, and I'd better have a replacement than warranty repair. Thanks for suggestion.
    Probably, I'm gonna file the MSI support ticket anyway to hear their options.
    This is how the screen looks like https://1drv.ms/i/s!ArpRaMZ_Kc2qjJEF-UmuhFmJp5OILg
    And this is how power coord is packed https://1drv.ms/i/s!ArpRaMZ_Kc2qjJEGtq3NYglgWdKzRA and faulty protective cloth (the one betweek the keyboard and the screen) https://1drv.ms/i/s!ArpRaMZ_Kc2qjJEDD-rQOXFK_gz9TQ
     
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    I wouldn't mention why you are returning the laptop to the retailer, if they ask just say it's "not a good fit for me", and nothing else, otherwise they may try to get you to RMA through MSI.

    It does look like it was unboxed and reboxed... that power cord wrap would never make it out of the original assembly / packing stage.

    Maybe find another retailer...
     
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    So Best Buy happened to have this in the store and so I picked it up and cancelled the one that they were supposed to have in store by Tuesday.

    I'm in love with this computer. Screen seems fine to me...Not sure what the complaints are. I didn't order a Razer, so not expecting that. I am loving how fast it is to start up, install programs, etc. The keyboard is lovely. The fan was annoying last night, but it seems to be not as bad...maybe just needed to run it a bit to get out that "new fan noise"?

    Only have one question though...should I be getting more than "5" settings on World of Warcraft? I am letting Nvidia Experience make the optimized settings and that's what I am getting recommended. I didn't think that was such a processor intensive game and I thought I would for sure be able to have it set to 10 (max). But still looks gorgeous, but my 560M was on 2 and so I thought I would get a bit more of a bump than that.
     
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    Got my GS63VR delivered yesterday.
    Bought the 068 sku (Amazon exclusive)
    Happy with it for now at least. No problems as of yet other than the mouse stuttering.
    Did anyone find a solution for that?
    If yes plz reply to this post with the solution.
     
  43. BeastOG

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    It's from CPU spikes because of the preinstalled programs that MSI put on it. Best thing you can do is install a clean version of windows and that'll fix it right up. If you have your laptop updated to the latest version of windows, there's an option in settings to have windows install a clean os of the latest version you're on. Whatever you do, don't reinstall the dragon control center, as that is the biggest source of CPU spiking.
     
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    You can max it out. I was able to on the one I had, and it worked just fine. I don't remember for sure if you can have AA on all the way, but the easiest way to find out is to go somewhere crowded like orgrimmar, then max out the settings. If you hit ctrl + R after you're done with your settings, it will tell you your FPS, and since you're in a crowded city like that, that'll be around your lowest point. Adjust accordingly.
     
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    So after getting fed up waiting for the Asus GL502VM to hit the nordic market I finally ordered the GS63VR.
    I got the CPU spike issue fixed after reading this forum / watching Linus tip.

    I have the same issue with the right side CPU fan. The fan sounds like an airplane taking off and the high pitch / whining sound is really annoying.
    I left the laptop in the next room with fans spinning and the whining echoed through my whole apparment.
    I dont think this would bother me while gaming alone with noise-cancelling headphones, but since I also plan on using this laptop during nightshifts at work, with other people in the same room, it's a dealbreaker for me. The high pitch whining sound would make me the least popular guy there.

    I will return this model tomorrow to the store (30 day free return).

    Last week I ordered a new one from a different store which I will pick up tomorrow. I really hope it will be without the high pitch whining cpu noise.
    If both models have the high pitch sound, I will arrive at the same conclusion as @Diversion (who also bought 2 different models)

    This is really too bad since the laptop is otherwise excellent in every way.
     
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    Try running the GPU at different mode other than Sport and see if it eliminates the coil whine issue.
     
  47. Diversion

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    Even Notebookcheck's review commented the GS63 has an annoying whine basically.. In other words but they mentioned it too.. Saying the unit while gaming, it's recommended to wear headphones. I tried a second unit before more people had them hoping it was a CPU fan issue but nope.. Both sounded identically the same.
     
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    It's not the GPU side.. it's the CPU fan that is high pitched.. The GPU fan on both of my units were far less noisy.. Probably because there's two GPU fans so they run at a lower rate.
     
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    Do you think the fan is rubbing against its housing?
     
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    No it just sounds like a cheap bearing OR.. it's just because they are just tiny, thin fans and that's just what it's going to sound like when it needs to spin to 4000+ rpms.. I didn't spend enough time undervolting the 6700HQ on them, but I bet you could curb some of the excessive fan noise with a serious undervolt job.. Like -150 on core and -150 on cache should drop temps enough that it doesn't need to start screaming. On my GT62VR and now 16L13... I dropped temps by over 10C alone with the undervolt.
     
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