*The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

Installed and it says : Catalyst-versie 12.11

well they work fine at least

 

@Prolixious: You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar

Thank you.

Any idea what the max ram the machine supports is? And did you get the backpack & mouse with that?

Thank you

 

2x8GB is the maximum ram.

 

Thanks for the info

Any idea how it runs linux and virtual box?

 

Sorry I am a windows man myself since I am a gamer.

 

Alright....time for me to talk smack about the brightness thing.... = =

So everything is working great and as intended when it is plugged in.

Problems comes when I unplug and use it on battery.....

Physically brightness control still works like a charm, but the brightness (or the contrast) of my screen is kinda off.... it is very bright. So if you're looking at a icon, that icon will look very bright, it kinda put stress on your eye when you're looking at it...

ALLLLSOOOO

when I'm on battery, that key that's between the wireless on/off, and disk eject. The one that suppose to turn off your screen, it is not working anymore, when you touch it, it will give you a nice glow, but the screen does not turn off... =\


Anyone else experiencing these two problems?


EDIT: nvm the second question, i know what caused that and i fixed it. I'll talk more about that later...

 

Hello everyone, i wanted to ask you something, i have a problem.

I have a 3d TV and when i plug the computer to it, i can play crysis 3 in 3D without a problem, but with tomb raider, the "stereoscopic 3D" box stays grey and i can't tick it.

Does anybody has any idea why ?

And in case someone wondered, Tomb Raider runs just just fine in "ultimate" settings with tressFx. Since Crysis 3 which is beautful runs too with normal to high settings, maybe this computer will last longer than we thought...

 

Is tomb raider supported yet by the software amd uses for 3d?

 

The 3D is implemented in the game it's built in, so amd shouldn't be involved in this....I guess....

It's just like the game doesn't recognize i have a 3D screen...

 

I had it same. Its caused by an energy saving power plan mode. To fix it, just switch to high performance at some advenced features of power plan.

 

Qualcomm Atheros WHQL wireless driver 10.0.0.227

Atheros & Zidas drivers

 

I'm sorry, can you explain exactly which features am I suppose to change?

 

Using Windows 8, how do I uninstall the current AMD drivers in order to install these? Is it as simple as uninstalling the AMD catalyst program? Or do I need to do something specific with the 7970 drivers as well?

Thanks much. Looking forward to regaining control over my brightness!

 

First off, let me say hello to everyone!
I really hope I can find an answer for a problem that I'm having with my MSI gt60-ond laptop. It originally came with W8 installed. My wife and I both tried it and gave it a fair shake. After two weeks of using W8 we both agreed that W7 was sorely missed!
Here's the problem. I installed W7 with no issues, (W7 ultimate x64) but as soon as I install the driver for the NVIDIA 675m the computer will boot and load fine for a minute or so and then BSOD! I have tried all the drivers including the betas from MSI and from the NVIDIA website with the same results.
I installed the chipset drivers and updated W7 completely before installing the GPU drivers. The laptop is 100% functional and has NO issues with any other hardware accept the NVIDIA 675m GPU
I noticed that under the BIOS updates from MSI that there is a BIOS for W7 that addresses this KNOWN issue but for the life of me I can't figure out how to flash it and when I called MSI they tell me they don't support flashing the BIOS, "downgrading" the OS and blah, blah, blah?! I am more of a desktop user and know how to flash a BIOS when it's in an iso format so this laptop stuff is kind of alien to me....
Anyone else run into this problem and have a fix?

 

@flyingDuck you should try the GT60 threads this is the GX60 thread AMD And ATI based so no Nvidia or or Intel here. Good luck

 

Thank sgdoggs! Sorry about that. I posted this from my phone.... guess I need new glasses!
I'll repost it in the proper thread! thanks again.

 

I uninstalled though the catalyst management program, then I go in to safe mode and use "Driver Fusion" completely del all the AMD driver related stuff

 

It's funny, I have heard so many points of view on this. But if you only ever had the original install on this laptop, since it's new, for me I just went ahead and installed over it with no problems of any kind. Now if I had it a while with a bunch of driver upgrades then maybe I would do it that, that's just way too much work otherwise for me at least. I have never had a problem either in 20 years of installing drivers.

 

Hey Guys,

I just formated my computer back from Windows 7 from Windows 8 because I couldnt get use to it at all.

I've been having problems with my 7660G Im using the latest 2/26/2013 13.2 Beta 7 drivers. Even before with my 13.1 WHQL drivers I was getting this problem.

When I play League of Legends it uses the 7970m perfectly but for some odd reason while recording the history of both iGPU and GPU with GPU-Z the 7660G Core Clocks and VDDC keep spiking up and down every 5-10seconds and this causes my games FPS to drop from 60 and have anything I did during that ..5/1sec spike to not register.

I've also tried running the game with just the 7660G and it wont kick into highgear mode either.

Anyways wondering if anyone has experienced this? I've considered setting everything to use 7970m but thats not a solution just a quick fix.

 

Hi All,

Fantastic Forum. I received the GX60 a couple of weeks ago with the intention of having a Dual Boot system on it (Windows 7 Pro & Windows 8 Home Premium).

I am unable to do this.....

Background:
I purchased two new Crucial M4 MSATA 256GB Drives, and I am trying to install Windows 7 and windows 8 in Dual Boot.

Any help appreciated, as currently I cannot install windows 7 (pops up with 'missing cd/dvd drivers').
Also I have tried placing the image I created of windows 8 onto the new drives, and it keeps rebooting after install, with error: 0x0000001, which I take to mean that some of the install files have not installed or have installed but not correctly.

Has anyone else experienced this? Or if anyone can help, I'd appreciate it.

By the way, my system has the 'Super RAID' which is what I am trying to install both Win 7 & Win 8 on.

MSI GX60 | A10-4600M | 2x250GB MSATA SSD | 750GB HDD | 7970m 2GB | 15" 1920x1080 | 8GB DDR3 1600 | Windows 8 Home Premium x64

 

I got to ask, im close to either purchasing this or the y500 sli650m model.

I just dont know which I should go for.

Mainly I play BF 3 online (64player servers) diablo 3, starcraft 2, witcher 2, crysis 3, medal of honor warfighter. Lot of new gamers like Tomb Raider, and a lot of older games as well.I like to play in 1080p. I usually lower shadowing in most of my games(for some reason it really bugs my eyes, not sure why)

My desktop is a amd phenom II x 4 810 at 2.4 ghz with 8gb ram and a radeon hd 6870. I travel a lot, so my pc gaming rarely ever happens, hence why im looking for a laptop.

Just debating that inbetween the 1000 to 1300 price range, if this would suite my needs. Thanks guys.

Maybe some real user advice/benchmarks/fps would help greatly!!

 

I'd still go with the 7970M as even under CPU limited situations it's going to outclass the 650 SLi setup and not have to worry about microstutter and multi GPU support.

 

A good read about Richland :

AMD Richland APU RevealSemiAccurate

That A6 has a higher base clock, so that might be better fo a gaming machine as the msi gx60, but the a10 has 1866 memory controler compatiblity.. I hope some1 will be testing both on the gx60 and psot results when they hit the market(if they are supported ofc )

 

Ya? Just wish i could get some realistic fps counts. All the ones i find are either way over exaggerated or sound way low

 

If you look closer the A6 is dual core while the A8 and A10 are quadcores.
The thing i am exited about most is hybrid crossfire between Richlands hd8650G and hd7970m.I play BF3 and would like to see a decent increase in FPS with it enabled.
Anybody has any thoughts on that?

 

Hi Meaker,
I'm hoping you can help.....
I recently received the GX60 (with the Super RAID).
I've bought 2 256GB Crucial M4 MSATA Drives, and I am trying to install a retail copy of windows 7 Pro 64bit on them (in a RAID 0 Config)
The GX60 originally came with windows 8 home 64bit on 2x64gb cards (in RAID 0).

The intention is to dual boot windows 7 & windows 8 in RAID 0 on the new drives.

I've installed the 2 new drives, turned off security and set to Legacy in the BIOS and the win 7 disc boots in, but then cannot find the Blu-Ray DVD/CD Driver to continue.
I cannot locate a driver anywhere for this....
Is their something I'm doing wrong or something else I need to do to install windows 7 in a RAID 0 config on the new drives?

I'm hoping you can help as I see you have already done this yourself.

 

AMD Unveils New Elite A-Series APUs with Enhanced Performance and Improved Power Efficiency - HotHardware

 

And it is still on the exact same socket, good news. I am looking forward for the 1866 performance increase too!

 

I know its a dual vs quadcore but for gaming it has no advantage to us a quad-core. So its a story of a dual core with higher base frequency Vs a quadcore with 1866 support.

 

Surely the GX60 bios / AMD Overdrive allows overclocking the FSB to reach 1866MHz ?

Also, the quad-cores have 4MB of L2 cache, whereas the dual-cores only have 1MB... this also plays a critical role in the speed of running single-threaded calculation-heavy processes like games. From my Athlon 64 OC'ing days (remember those?), I seem to remember that doubling the cache would add the equivalent of 100-200MHz to the clockspeed in terms of performance (at things like SuperPi anyway).

Are you sure? I'm going to let someone else be the hamster/guinea pig and try to get one for their GX60 before I do I suppose if the new chip doesn't fit, it can always just be sold off again...

 

Hello everyone,

I've recently bought this notebook and for now it seems like solid deal. However, how do You check the temperature of the dedicated GPU?
Tried GPU-Z: remains on splash screen with 25% CPU usage in task manager. If I disable integrated GPU it starts but shows only information for integrated GPU (!!! which is odd);
GPU Observer gadget does not detect my graphics card.
HWMonitor shows different temperature values (some of them even illogical - 83-85 C when idling which I suppose is bad reading of the program), but no real value for 7970 card..

I've tried this with both the Catalyst drivers from MSI's webpage and with the newest 13.2 beta 7 drivers with the same result.

 

That 3.5 Ghz turbo on Richland's A-10 5750m doesn't mean anything.

I suspect, that just like with A-10 4600m, we will be able to force turbo up to about ~85% of the paper top performance.
With A-10 4600m the highest frequency we can set on all 4 cores simultaneously is 2.7 Ghz, not 3.2 Ghz like the specs on paper would lead the customer to believe.

So, if A-10 5750m is 3.5 Ghz on paper after turbo, then I think the maximum we will get by forcing turbo on all 4 cores will revolve around 2.9 - 3.1. Ghz. It is a noticable boost in mhz, but still not as big as AMD suggest with that paper 3.5 Ghz, witch will be present only when 1 or 2 cores are working, not all 4.
Unless, the newest APU's will be unlocked and OC will be possible...

 

It all seems like unfounded conjecture really. AMD claims that the turbo was improved at least, so that you should expect it to work better. And maybe now you can lock it at 3GHz, because it consumes less power than Trinity at normal workloads, more TDP room. Especially when not using the iGPU. It could make a big difference in games with a higher locked clock, or just turbo that works right.

And games are not all single threaded, so quad cores will destroy duals in peformance. Most games today are built for multithreaded, only the ones using an old engine are single threaded.

 

I stumbled upon this problem some weeks ago, for the processor I use CoreTemp, it shows a more accurate reading.

and about the proggies not showing the 7970m I have the same issue, aparently its normal, It happens to me as well.

Cheers! I hope that helps.

 

I have been a huge AMD fan since the early 90's, but they were sorely lacking in a gaming capable laptop. I was so excited when i saw this model pop up. Then all the reviews were seriously dogging it, by comparing it to laptops that were not even in the same price range. I knew benchmarks were only half the story, this thread gave me the real world info i was looking for. I already know the common problems, and how to fix them or even prevent them, because of what i have learned here. I placed my order with newegg this morning. I am confident that i will not regret my choice. I picked up a Kingston 120gb SSD to go along with it, and an adapter so i can fire up that 3 monitor rig. Many thanks to all of you here, and i will be adding "rep" for those users who deserve it.

 

So what do we all think? Good buy for gaming currently and maybe 2 years down the road?

 

I wanna know this too, i am torn between this and the GT70 from msi (i7 3630 + 670mx )

 

You can judge this by the latest game releases like Crysis and Tomb Raider if there are benches for them. Most of the stuff for the next two years should be similar in computing requirements, especially since the PS4 looks like it will only be a little better than this laptop. One thing is for sure, with an 8 Jaguar core processor games are going to be very multithreaded capable going forward.

 

You will enjoy GX60.
And in case of problems, you know where to post them!

 

BTW folks,

I made Tomb Raider test video on my GX60: Tomb Raider on MSi GX60 notebook with HD 7970m GDDR5 and A-10 4600m CPU demo - YouTube

All settings on maximum, TressFX ON (the exclusive AMD character hair technology), AA OFF.

Very playable, was suprised to be honest, with that ammount of detail one would expect this game to be desktop PC demanding to run with playable framerates on max settings.

 

So after browsing this thread and seeing the vid of the GX60 running Tomb Raider at ultra settings i placed my order. For the price i paid ($1189) I dont think the performance can be beat in that range. Thanks for showing me more than jsut synthetic benchmarks, and some real gameplay performance ! Mine is pre packaged with Win 8.

Is there anything i should know/any tweaks or anything i should be doing once it arrived?

 

Hey @ll !

Just to add my two cents, Tomb Raider was running fluently (I'm using the last beta 7 drivers), until I reached a certain point of the game (the township). Intense ennemies spawning and highly complex level with a lot of buildings made the game running like crap. I've got the same issue in Far Cry 3 when there's a lot of NPC's in huge villages.
A problem related to the weak performance of the A-10, unfortunatly !

 

Oh man. Is that on ultra w everything on and 1080p?

 

Yarp, everything's maxed out,in the native resolution of my TV screen (1080p) except for the depth of field on "normal" and FXAA instead of SMAA. I've tested the same level with the lowest graphical settings, same problem occuring.

 

Have you tried disabling any AA all together, shadows, textures, or anything programs running in the background? And are you running your CPU locked at 2.7GHz?

 

Hmmm this could def effect my decision. Im so close to pulling the trigger. Is tressfx off or on?

 

On a side note, a question.

Is anybody from this forum planning to buy the Richland A-10 5750m and install it instead of A-10 4600m?

I am very interested in real-life performance boost in games and overall use, with CineBench CPU benchmark results durning forced turbo and improvement in games.

 

I wonder if MSI will just do it themselves and send out a new version with the rolled over 8970M part number too.

And it would make a great review for an ariticle, so someone must already be thinking about doing it.

 

I have a desktop with an i7 3770k and 2x 6950 2gb's and it strugged in those town center levels, it was playable, but in some cases it halved the FPS. I don't think its entirely a CPU issue, those levels are just...i dunno, not optimized properly or something. If a 3770k struggles on it then it isn't all the A10's fault. Also TessFX does impact performance quite heavily i found, and it looks like crap (in my opinion.) and i prefer the non tressFX hair. Though it is the first iteration of the tech im sure it might get better later.

On another note: I see a lot of people talking about forcing turbo mode on? What do you guys mean by that?