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    *The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by layjohn, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. Altorion

    Altorion Newbie

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    So nobody has found a way to get PSCheck working in Windows 8 or get brightness control working in Win8 on anything but the video drivers that it comes with? I'm seriously considering downgrading to Windows 7 so I can use PSCheck.
     
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    I seem to remember having it work, but it has been a bit since I ran one :/
     
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    You should try it. If your main concern is gaming performance, or performance in general and the utilities you need work best with a previous Windows itteration, you should definitely give it a go.
     
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    How much powerful will A10-5750m be? Going by PC Mark7, it appears to be around 10% faster per CPU. The GX series are great value, and squeezing more performance out of the CPU is a great idea for a step up.
     
  7. highwind85

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    A difference of ~300 pts in 3dmark 11 physics. (~2600 vs ~2900)....i did a benchmark a while back...
     
  8. Dezmenn

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    Around 2-5 fps in cpu intensive games while others, almost no difference. The GX70 has another bottlenecking cpu, whats the point?
     
  9. WhatsThePoint

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    At least Hitman Absolution is more playable now...
     
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    It's trying to offer a performance/price balance, you need to consider the games you play as to if it's worth it for you.
     
  12. ryzeki

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    Yeah, GX series is trying to bring the best possible gaming performance at a low price. The machines you fight against at such pricepoint tend to have 660m or other midrange GPUs. Against those, it tends to pass through with ease, with exceptions to CPU intensive games.

    Users with very limited budget which care mostly for gaming and don't mind the CPU for other tasks, find great value in these GX series.
     
  13. WhatsThePoint

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    Here's pix of the GX70 HD Radeon 8970M and the GX70 heatsinks and fan.
     

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  14. tmntdonjuan

    tmntdonjuan Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a question: how easy/feasible will it be to upgrade the CPU down the line? The a10-5750m doesn't seem to have much of an upgrade but what about Kaveri? I think it would work out nicely if I bought the current version of the a10-4600m at a discount and waited until kaveri came out (and hopefully it's as good as predicted) and then upgrade the cpu then. Any thoughts?
     
  15. highwind85

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    As long as Kaveri is still using the same socket, and as long as MSI release new bios to support the new cpu....

    Guys, i installed a 250gb SSD and used USB recovery to install the windows to the SSD...
    However, the recovery partitioned my SSD into 2 partitions...OS partition (~130gb) and a Data partition (~85gb)...
    is it better to keep them as 1 bigger partition as i will use the 750gb HDD for data?
     
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    It is just a personal preference, my 128GB SSD has 35GB for win7 the rest is a partition for games. Having partitions made it easier to seek through files because it had quicker references for data but well its an SSD.
     
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    I have some hope that a kaveri will come into this socket. They should launch kaveri end of this year/early next year , so what i do is wait till details about kaveri(around october i think) comes and upgrade to a richland if kaveri wont fit in this laptop. ;)
     
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    It wont, I believe it's a new socket, certainly on the desktop side.
     
  19. tmntdonjuan

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    Also do you think getting the current version of the GX60 with the a10-4600m at $950 is a good deal?
     
  21. serbest

    serbest Newbie

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    Hello everyone,

    It's been a while since I bought my GX60 and I would really appreciate if you told me which games you play on yours.

    Thanks in advance
     
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    At that price yeah, it's a good deal.
     
  23. Any_Key

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    While I applaud AMD for pushing the APU, honestly it's CPU isn't up to par with the dedicated GPU. I would say that they really need an FX mobile chip for these type of configs, but that ain't their strategy for the mobile market anymore. Hopefully if they continue to push for better CPU and integrated GPU that they will one day get it right, but doesn't seem like today.
     
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    Hopefully we will soon be offered for sale on ebay the new processors A-10 5750M . Will be a good improvement for our GX60 with 7970M
     
  25. TommyB0y

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    Do you have experience with this or just making some general assumption? As new games are made to take advantage of GPGPU compute then the CPU performance should not matter as much and AMD GPUs will perform quite well with any processor. It would be nice if AMD would simply introduce a higher power consumption APU for mobile, so you can run it in a turbo mode where it draws 45W or something, instead of maxing out at 35W. I thought that is what AMD had in mind when they said Richland could be OEM power consumption customized. The GX60 would have been perfect place for it. Or maybe what they had in mind for the 17" version if it has more cooling.

    I don't think this will be as much of an issue by the end of the year when Steamroller core based Kaveri APUs are shipping, because their IPC should be significantly better and with the smaller feature size AMD should be able to get more clock speed in the same power envelope. Combine better IPC with higher clock, and those APUs should do fine.
     
  26. Any_Key

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    It was merely a IMHO. I wasn't trying to come off as saying "AMD bad, Intel good". There are two technologies that I'm looking forward to seeing what can be done in the next 5 years, AMD's APU's and nVidia's Mobile series. Honesty I would love to see just an APU chip be able to fluently handle next gen games without the need for a dedicated card (if next gen consoles are any indication). But the current ideal setup is still processor and dedicated GFX card. AMD is on the right track, but it really is a pick your poison situation when it comes to the next release of mobile processors.

    I'm not too excited about Richland, but Kaveri has promise. So, next 5 years of continual improvement should yield some pretty awesomeness.
     
  27. ryzeki

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    If AMD removed the IGP part completely, and upped the limit to 45w, they could have very competitive CPU for mobile gaming.
     
  28. davidricardo86

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    AMD is not going to be removing the igp on apus and socs. That's the whole point of integrating more components into the mobile silicon.

    If you want better cpu then steamroller cores (kaveri) will be what to buy. Its still far away. A fully unlocked Richland A10 45W would be more plausible.

    Sent from my SPH-M580 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    i bought this notebook in march , so far it's an excellent notebook for the price i paid


    paired with win8 things couldn't get better and smoother until the ""configuring window features "" problem started and recently i got rid of it somehow after updating the AMD drivers very often


    gaming is smooth even on an extended 50" HDTV , i don't use it for much more than gaming and watching videos



    amazing notebook for an affordable price
     
  30. LordDarkenon

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    Hi I've also bought this laptop from Amazon prompted by the £100 cashback. Have you received your cashback yet from MSI? Where do you have to post the cashback, and what proof of purchase do you have to include? There is no mention of the cashback on the MSI website. Thanks.
     
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    You can get the 5750M AMD CPU and get a boost that way.
     
  32. tmntdonjuan

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    So I have a question for people in this forum. Should I buy the gx60 right now with the a10-4600m for $950 brand new with the plan to upgrade the processor to kaveri when it's released? Or should I just buy a clevo p150em with the i7-3630qm & radeon 7970m combo for $1500 without worries about having to make any future upgrades?
     
  33. felix3650

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    Depends on what are your priorities. If you plan on doing a lot of CAD/Photoshop then go for the Clevo as the more powerful cpu will help. If you plan on gaming on a budget and spending the rest on something else the the gx60 is preferable.
    The a10 cpu is not bad at all, just not up to par with the i7-3630qm. Also take note that the MSI has better speakers and it's 600$ of difference ;)
    I prefer the gx60 design wise but that is me :p
     
  34. LisuPoland

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    950$ for GX60 is a steal IMHO, great price for truly great machine, the CPU is its only drawback but it is not terrible as people say (it is only about twice as powerful as T5800 2 Ghz Core 2 Duo, but if you force turbo it it is almost x 2,5 faster) only a handful of games play badly on it, so 90% of the current titles work well (30 fps or above).

    That Clevo is of course a juicy machine, but 1500$ is a lot of dough, so if you want to save as much as you can - get GX60, because it is really amazing deal.
     
  35. WhatsThePoint

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    Found in 1 second with google search!

    http://ukcashback.msi.com/Cash Back.pdf

    All claims must be received on or prior to: 14th May 2013 to qualify
     
  36. sniffin

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    Is it just me or is the 13.1 drivers the notebook came with the only set of drivers that work with Windows 8 and this laptop? 13.4 and the 13.3 betas just give me an error about not being able to detect an AMD device.
     
  37. myx

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    Make sure you are using the mobility drivers.

    Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Definitely consider the GX60. While the clevo will be more powerful, it also costs considerably more money. Unless you have cash to spend and need a better cpu for whatever software you might use, the GX60 has a tremendous advantage in value and performance per $.

    And as felix3650 mentioned, the speakers are much better on MSI. It is very noticeable, and small details like that, allow you to enjoy your machine much more.
     
  39. istojanovic

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    When will release a new bios? I see that almost the entire range of MSI ( GE60-GT60 etc) are updated to 2013, but our GX60 continue with the first release.
     
  40. LisuPoland

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    Probably when the refreshed Hitman GX60 with 5750m widely hits the market.
     
  41. 007poland

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    Hi i cant get working Amd overdrive and also Amd pscheck is not working on my Msi Gx60 (win8) pls help guys :(
     
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    AMD overdrive will not work in switchable graphics machines.
     
  43. 007poland

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    what about Amd Pscheck ?? other users are saying its working on their gx60 win8 but i can't get working that on my Msi gx60 win8 :(
     
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    Define not working, you have to be more specific with your issues, error messages, conditions etc.
     
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    For my case, PScheck refuses to load..(Win 8, A10-5750m)..
     
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    well, it works. I have worked with t on GE600. Check leshcatlabs
     
  47. 007poland

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    PScheck refuses to load. Amd overdrive it's crashing the hole system in gx60 (a10-4600m win8)
     
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    Pscheck likey does not support the 5750m yet. Overdrive as stated does not work with switchable setups.
     
  49. ryzeki

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    What does Pscheck do? I am fairly curious.
     
  50. blackmambatron24

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    Can someone link me the latest GPU Driver from AMD for the 7970m for my GX60, I am afraid I will download the wrong one. Also do I need to download and update anything other hardware before my Graphics Card.
     
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