*The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

i don't know why you would deny it so strongly.... a bench mark is a bench mark.. that guy did it and he simply post the result, you on the other hand deny it with such confidence...

so what I'm getting out of you is that, you are calling whoever did that benchmark a lier.

you almost sounded like you're mad!

 

Exactly what I've thought; turning details to maximum AMD as good gaming machine as Intel...

 

If any one UK based fine a source for the MSI GT60 keyboard let me know i wanna buy one!

Seen a french one on eBay for £120 :-/

 

Looks damn good. Even more excited to get this!! Too back it takes FOREVER for packages to get to APO addresses.

 

Here is another video, test of Call of Duty: Black Ops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wq3ZpEJLvg

 

I want to see more of your videos. Keep 'em coming

 

denying hard? nope, I just gave base to what I know is wrong.

 

When is this available in the US again?

 

I've seen a week ago at BestBuy site for $1199 in the New Arrivals category marked as "Coming soon", but it disappeared. Same thing happened with ASUS N56DP which supposed to be Premium model as well!

 

Should I buy the GX60 or a P150EM with a 7970m? The GX60 would obviously cost less, but is a lot heavier than the P150EM.

 

I've just received a Crysis 3 Alpha key so will see how it fares with this new game that we all know will be graphically amazing!!

 

Well crysis 3 plays ok although you can tell its very alpha with textures disappearing etc.

I played at 1920x1080 and it looks amazing on high details (noting very high is also an option) fraps told me i was getting about 20-30fps but it did seem to stutter a little but i think given there is no driver optomisation and its alpha code its to be expected

 

Game run fine for me, but Crysis 2 runs rather badly for me, on very high settings with DX11 FHD i get about 20-30 fps... rather bad.

Extreme and Ultra settings are out of the picture for me.

I don't have the Hi-Res Texture pack installed.

Any suggestions? or it is A-10 choking? Would seem wierd, since Skyrim plays damn well on ultra on my GX60.

 

Well no problems setting up a raid array here, seems to be performing fine too.

 

Is that with two SSD's meaker?

 

With 2x256GB M4 Drives.

 

So Meaker, does this laptop come with the caddy inside both HDD bay?

 

Great news! According to Gentech PC, the ETA for North America is November 10!

On the other hand, anyone know for sure that both HDD slot are mSATA 3? I remember reading somewhere on Chinese site, someone said unlike the GT60s, both slots on the GX60 are mSATA 3

 

Well... I'm very interested on buying a GX60... Anyone knows if will be released another version or just the GX60-021US? I was very interested on the RAID version, I don't see it in the US.

 

I'm afraid no one will know the answer, but MSI headquarter themselves only, not even the retailers....

I was hoping the same thing for GT60 long before the announcement of GX60, but they still haven't release the superRAID version for GT60.

Worse case scenario you have to import it from an other country where it has been released, like the UK model.

 

You get the bracket for a second HDD in the box.

If history is anything to go by don't hold your breath for a super raid version in the us but I don't know for sure.

 

Is the display in the GX60 IPS?

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No, 40 pin tn panels like all other gaming machines.

 

How's the keyboard guys? Does it flex? I am deciding either this or Asus g55.

 

Keyboard is very nice, no flex (it is screwed down) and miles better than the clevo one.

 

Thank you Meaker.

I was thinking of W150ER and OC with Prema bios mod. But this will obviously be a much better gaming machine.

 

If we can get a trinity refresh or if trinity 2.0 is compatible (it will be desktop side at least) then we are golden for the future, just have to wait and see (and not rely on it for now).

 

Thanks for the confirmation , was bit worried that the keyboard would've been weak.

 

From page 2:

When I get mine (within the next few months since I am saving money for it now), I would like to try the mod bios and OC it as well. Although I would like to see game benchmark result before doing it. There is no point putting in bios in and OC it if it doesn't improve game fps because the CPU is choking it.

Also, how's the speaker, especially the sub? I don't know how good laptop subs are because I never had a laptop with sub.

Meaker, you input on this will be very very useful.

 

The speakers are excellent for a laptop. Overclocking does improve 1080p scores

 

Would you recommend this over G55? (gaming, typing, etc, etc.)

 

Yes, more up-gradable and better for 1080p gaming.

 

So how stable is the bios mod? Is there a bios version that if I flash mod bios into it that will brick the laptop? Also where is the battery for the reset, is it easily accessible? Can you upload it somewhere Meaker?

(I am being very taxing on the forum resource am I? )

 

Meaker any info on the succesor CPU to our A10-4600m?

I don't complain on A-10 4600m, I consider it to be a fine CPU, but time will come when it will slow down 7970m too much.

Is is going to be - for ex. an ~"A-11 5600m" or some other CPU in the next year lol?

 

According to wiki, the Steamroller based APU (Kaveri) will be FS2 uPGA and incompatible with the current Piledriver based Trinity APU that is FS1r2 uPGA.

And according to semiaccurate, there will be a new stepping for Trinity CPU early next year b4 the release of Kaveri, and the speed will be up by a few hundred MHz and lowering the wattage. Not sure if the mobo on the GX60 will support the Trinity CPU with new stepping thou.

 

Can you provide a link to the semiaccurate part?

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Hello guys, im really interested in this laptop. Of course my primary usage on this will be gaming. However before purchasing it I would like some question answered.

I've read extensively that at 1080p games are entirerly run by the GPU and therefore the cpu is left intact. Just to recheck, is this true?
also since i would have to be locked at 1080p when lowering some settings to run at 60+, will the cpu(a10) still won't be used?

if both points are true, then can someone point out how guildwars 2 is played since it's basically the only game im currently addicted.

And finally, im an architecture student and i sometimes need to use sketchup and autocad for 2d. (3d and some rendering in the future perhaps) Is this laptop recomended?

If not would an i7 with 675mx be a MUCH better choice?

Thanks in advance.

 

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/08/06/amd-to-update-trinity-to-trinity-2-0/

If you run the same game at 720p and 1080p, then the the increase in screen res will tax your GPU more. But if you are playing a game that tax the CPU heavily, then regardless of 720p or 1080p, it's still going to tax the CPU.

Because this laptop has strong GPU and a relatively weakly CPU, you should max the graphic detail, that makes the GPU to reach 100% first b4 the CPU. The strong GPU means you can pump the graphic way up. Running low graphic setting will just make the GPU sit idle while the CPU works at 100%

Look at the CPU bench for Guyild War 2 and it doesn't look too good.

I know it's a llano that's benchmarked. But if I have to guess, then I will say the CPU give you a bit above the minimum playable frame rate of 30.



Not sure about AutoCAD. I don't use it. I guess that is all CPU? If it is then the i7 will be much faster.

 

Thx for the answer Eric. Then I guess i'll go for an intel system with reason you mentioned. As a side note, I thought the GPU was to run exclusively at 1080p with whatever settings choosen. Thanks for that clarification through!

 

Can someone pretty please post some game benchies? I beg you!

 

Well, I'm a very heavy user of CAD, CAM and CAE software, from AutoCAD to Simulation. All modern CAD, All CAM and most CAE software use intensive GPU power, even some suites uses GPGPU capabilities, so a good GPU will help you very much. Also, NotebookCheck says AMD GPUs are better for CAD software.

But hey, I run AutoCAD 2013 and Inventor 2013 in a llano A4-3300, and without problem. So, I can say GX60 must handle it without problem. Anyway i7 + 675MX is a very nice combination.

 

You can see some benchmark here:

**OcUK EXCLUSIVE - MSI GX60 AMD TRINITY RADEON 7970M HARDCORE GAMING LAPTOP!!** - Overclockers UK Forums

Unigine benchmark is similar against i7-3630QM with GTX680m. Game benchmark on page 3 also show very playable frame rate for the games tested (Shogun 2 and Sleeping Dogs).

 

....wow with your post you made my decision harder now.. Im certianly a newbie with autocad since the only modelling software im currently using is sketchup. What are your rendering speeds on a not very complex model? Does the gpu impact over the rendering speeds or only when rotating a model for higher fps?

 

The entire idea that you need a super high end PC for engineering design rendering with any of those programs (NX, autocad, Solidworks, ect) is completely false and IMO used by some engineering students on this forum to justify (to themselves or their parents) buying a high end gaming machine

I had no problem running any of these programs on machines that are quite old. I have done complex 3d modelling on a system running a Core 2 Duo P7450 (2.1ghz) and a 9800M GS, and I have friends that are graduating from engineering this year and can run these design programs without any issue on machines with older Core 2 Duo + Intel GMA 3000.

They are extremely optimized programs, and should run on any modern PC unless you are using it to design something more complex than a jet engine.

My $0.02

 

Pretty much what I wanted to hear! haha

Well, if someone could post some benchmarks of guild wars 2, that would make my decision over

 

Yeah! As I said, I can run all this software using an A4-3300M and even a E-450. Of course, the more complex rendering or simulation, better hardware will be welcome, It can save you a few minutes. But Always, games are more demanding than CAD/CAM/CAE, unless you're working at Steven Holl developing a new gigantic museum, And if you need that kind of power, surely you will have a workstation with professional GPUs.

happyhour01, I suggest you, mainly, buying a SSD, it will decrease software load times (very helpful running AutoCAD), and having a good amount of RAM (4 GB or more, surely your gaming notebook will come at least with 8 GB). So, choose you machine by your wishes and the money available! hahaha

Cheers!

 

Thank you guys, really! Moving autocad aside which after you guys already told it will run more than fine, the honest part of my decision is Guild Wars 2, which is a game that is is known for hogg for the cpu and thats were the a10 worries me. If I buy this laptop, I would surely buy it with an ssd OR like mentioned before, I would buy a i7 with a 675mx.

Even though I still have time to decide before purchasing it, still saving money

 

Since the GX60 is not available in north america yet, sadly I cannot do benches of it for you If you are concerned about CPU performance however, I can test it on my system and report back.

My system is
CPU: AMD A8-3530mx (I will test it at 2.2ghz to replicate the A10-4600m, they are somewhat similiar)
GPU : 6750m @ >6770m speeds
8GB of DDR3, SSD and the like.

CPU performance should be similiar, however my GPU is MUCH weaker than the GX60

Also my laptop does not have a 1080p screen, So I shall run the game at 720p.

This will be my minimum FPS just outside hoelbrak (I will include screenshots).

Settings :

Preset Best Performance (absolute lowest everything): 42 FPS
Auto Preset : ( Med, None, Med, Low, None, Med, Native, Med, Med , Low, Depth Blur) : 33 FPS
Best Appearance (Max everything) : 25 FPS

I am looking at a waypoint and fire here, so it is the lowest fps I could obtain in the area). Walking around at max was over 30 fps most of the time.

And to top this all off, I overclocked the CPU from 2.2 to 2.6 GHZ, and the FPS at max detail did not increase AT ALL, which tells me that this was not a CPU limited test, it was GPU limited.

So I conducted an experiment, decrease my CPU clock until I notice the FPS start to be limited by it.

Running around outside Hoelbrak (wayferer foothills). These are the MINIMUM fps I was achieving.

2.6 GHZ = 26 fps
2.2 GHZ = 26 fps
2.0 GHZ = 26 fps
1.7 GHZ = 25-26 fps (a bunny jumped infront of me lol)
1.5 GHZ = 23 fps (This is where it starts to get limited)

So it seems evident to me that this game is far more GPU heavy than CPU heavy, (Especially since I am running at 720p, which would showcase more CPU bottleneck). I could play the game at 1.7ghz with almost no fps difference as the clock increases.

I honestly think a 2.7ghz A10-4600m would be nothing to worry about, as my CPU clearly had a lot of headroom. I wish I could give you real benchmarks with the GX 60, but this is the best I can do. Hope it helps.

 

I currently play Guild Wars 2 on a 2010 Macbook air.. no kidding in fact i've gone to level 80 with it . The hard part of guildwars 2 is actually WvW where many laptops just can't handle it. Thats the actual concern is based. This time I want to play this game at 1080p with at least 40fps+ with serious settings and this includes WVW(i haven't killed Zhaitan because I want to experience it in best appearance. )

It haven't been released in USA yet?! I didn't knew that. Now I know why I can't find information for it.

Well i'll be safe and read a lot of reviews before buying it.
Finally, rmacgowa really thank you for taking your time in doing those benchmarks!

 

Hi, I’m interested in the notebook but as many others I’m concerned about the CPU, mainly in Guild Wars 2. Any owner of the notebook, would you be willing to test the game? On November 12th players should be given keys for a trial period from 15th till the 18th.
Thank you for your response .