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    *The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by layjohn, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. happyhour01

    happyhour01 Notebook Enthusiast

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    We are in the same boat! The Gx60 has not been releaased yet so we really can't know how it runs the game.
     
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    If someone wants to give me a trial key I can try and test it.
     
  3. happyhour01

    happyhour01 Notebook Enthusiast

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    as soon as the "invite a friend" becomes available i'll surely invite you. That will be this 18 of November.
     
  4. happyhour01

    happyhour01 Notebook Enthusiast

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    As soon as the "invite a friend" becomes available i'll surely invite you. That will be this 18 of November.
     
  5. Zax19

    Zax19 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you very much. Every player should have 3 keys as soon as November 12th so this should be no problem. I’m also concerned about the weight and size (I’d like to add an SSD but I’m not sure I want to risk 1080p screen with “only” for example GT650M in the Dell 7720) so I’d love to see how GX60 handles GW2.
     
  6. leadermac

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    im sure it will run gw2 easily. My desktop can run gw2 on max settings and it is not as powerful as the laptop. I do have a few questions about the gx60. How is it having a non backlit keyboard? Do you really notice not having the backlit keyboard? Will the gx 60 be easy to upgrade in the future? Is there any other major differences that you know of from the gt series like sound quality or screen quality anything like that? I like the price point of the gx60 just worries me about no backlit keyboard and upgrade ability and don't know of much its cutback compared to the gt series in terms of the "extras". I know u could change the keyboard and make it backlit but i have no idea where you would be able to find one to buy.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    1) Having a good keyboard is much better than having a bad backlit one ^-^ The screen gives some light anyway.
    2) As easy to upgrade as any other MSI, it will be AMD graphics cards only.
    3) No other differences to the GT other than AMD vs Intel.
     
  8. leadermac

    leadermac Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does the gx60 have the touchpad disable button? and the turbo fan and cpu buttons. Is the screen bright enough so if you look down at keys in the dark u can still kinda see them? I do play alot by just feel when playing but the odd time u just need to look down and if its dark id want to see. Im not a hardcore intel or nvidia fan i just like to be able to play games on the go or on the couch without having to break the bank so amd doesn't bother me because they do make some good stuff as well.
     
  9. Prolixious

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    1. How long does the battery last when surfing the Internet on the integrated GPU?
    2. Which screen is the stock? Is it the same as the GT60's?
    3. How does the (gaming) performance compare to the MSI GT60 with 680m? I expect that both models will be similar, but I want to convince myself that the GX60 doesn't suffer from unsavory Enduro issues.

    Thanks.
     
  10. layjohn

    layjohn Notebook Consultant

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    The GX60 does not have a physical touchpad disable button, but can be disabled with fn+F?(not sure which one is it). It does has the turbo fan button, but not turbo boost button, the turbo boost is replaced with a "p1".

    If gaming is the main purpose for you and you don't want to spend a ton, this laptop is PERFECT.
     
  11. leadermac

    leadermac Notebook Enthusiast

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    wow its hard to find a store that has them they are all on backorder or pre order. Is the gx60 not yet released in Canada yet? If not do you know when its suppose to be? I think i might get this as for the price its hard to say no and go for a laptop that is 500+ to get the i7 and 680m or 7970m
     
  12. davidricardo86

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    For gaming this is a great laptop. As it has already been established, the AMD A10 does not hinder gaming very much at all. Throw an SSD in this and everything will fly. The only other thing id personally do to it is upgrade to a (good) msi backlit keyboard. I've never had a computer with one so that's why I feel like I'm missing out. However, one could always get one of those USB mini flexible lights and aim it over the KB.

    Sent from my SPH-M580 using Tapatalk
     
  13. rmacgowa

    rmacgowa Notebook Evangelist

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    It looks like out of all of those sellers, Adorama is the only one that does not list it as out of stock or a preorder. Shipping to Canada is rediculous (60 bucks)

    This place looks like it will have it available in Canada soon : PC CANADA - MSI GX60 0NC-021US AMD A10 W7H 8G 750GB BD-COMB 15.6 WSXGA+ BGN RADEON 7970M 2.0GB 720 BT [9S7-16FK11-021] - The Original and Highly Rated All-Canadian WebStore
     
  14. leadermac

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    Ya im curious to see if it will be on sale for black friday. Only a couple weeks away wonder if it will be worth waiting till then for one. Im amazed at some of the videos you guys posted seems to run really smooth for games at a great price point. Does anyone know if AMD is looking at using the same socket for their newer processors coming out in the future. IT be a big let down if they were not the same.
     
  15. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    actually it does, if you look at the gaming figures that we were discussing on this thread you would see it hinders, thing is at the price its selling its a great a machine.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/not...otebook-announced-discussion.html#post8874630

    thing is Im number starved currently. I have only one available benchie, that is the sleeping dogs, the s2tw benchie is completely wrong.
     
  16. happyhour01

    happyhour01 Notebook Enthusiast

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    guys, apart of guildwars 2, how does it plays BF3?
     
  17. Meaker@Sager

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    *dreams of a 4800mk with a 45w tdp and unlocked multiplier* it will never happen but I can dream.
     
  18. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Now get rid of the ODD put some fans in there some copper and its gold!
     
  19. davidricardo86

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    I see...

    So for the price its a fair trade-off?

    Sent from my SPH-M580 using Tapatalk
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Nah you just put in a double heatpipe cooler like the GT models have and it would be fine.
     
  21. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    yes. if they put a higher price like 1400 it would be a terrible buy, because for 100 more you can get a p150em with a 7970m on it.

    Im thinking on extreme overclocking figures, not just some 400mhz bump, but the cooling on that G series is pretty good.
     
  22. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You could edit the fan tables if you want to bump it up for some more extreme tuning.
     
  23. Zax19

    Zax19 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Huh, the GW2 Invite a Friend needs an email address of the person I want to invite, quite obnoxious :/.
     
  24. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well if someone wants to private message me I can always do that off forum.

    As for other interesting news, I have an A6 Llano based chip on the way, I am very curious if it will work.
     
  25. Penguin14

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    Everyone else notice that every time you search for MSI GX60, most websites are stating that the US release is going to be $1300?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Most of the pre-orders I have seen are for $1200.
     
  27. pewpewbangbang

    pewpewbangbang Notebook Guru

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    Yup, and you can even get it cheaper if you buy through XoticPC. They have some instant discount, plus you can downgrade the hard drive and save like $25 or remove it completely and rely on your own SSD. But then idk how they install Windows 8.
     
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    rmacgowa Notebook Evangelist

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    I am 99% sure that the Llano processors will not work, as while the pin position is the same for both generations, the pin configuration (purpose) has changed for a few of the pins, so the socket will not be able to interact with the CPU properly.

    This was tested here by Atom Anti, and he found that his Trinity System would not boot with a Llano chip.

    If it did work, then we could just throw a A8-3550 mx in and a fair deal more CPU power than the A10-4600m
     
  30. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It would have been nice if someone had pointed that out when I asked earlier :/ Would have saved me some cash, oh well.
     
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    Has anyone here played StarCraft 2 yet with this laptop? If so how did it run on max settings?
     
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    How's an A8-3550MX better than the A10-4600M?
     
  33. rmacgowa

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    The A8-35XXmx lineup was the top-of-the-line Llano AMD APUs, while the A10-4600m is the top of the line Trinity APU. AMD decided to trade off CPU power for additional GPU power. Therefore there were some major differences between generations.

    1) The A8-3550 mx is a true quad core with 4 floating point operators, while the A10-4600m has 4 cores but only 2 floating point operators

    2) the Llano architecture has shown much better performance clock for clock because of the difference in architecture

    A 2.2 Ghz Llano has been shown to perform the same in most cases as a 2.7Ghz A10-4600m. I can provide sources later if anyone cares.

    I have the A8-3530mx and I can run it at 2.6 Ghz no problem, It can run at 3.0 - 3.1 Ghz but the cooling in my HP notebook is not sufficient to stop thermal throttling. Since the GX60 cools better than my HP DV6, it could have more overclocking headroom.

    3) Llano has full voltage and clock control thanks to KSTAT10 and Fusion Tweaker. Overclocking works quite well.

    4) The A8 - 35XX mx line is 40watt TDP, which gives it a lot more overhead for CPU power (and what trinity should have done)

    Instead of having a CPU with the power of a i3-2310, You have a CPU with the power in between an I5-2410m and i7-2630m.
     
  34. layjohn

    layjohn Notebook Consultant

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    this just sound absolutely sweet... i really wish they have used the older gen A 8 instead.

    on the other note, is there anyway to oc the new trinity? now or the near future?
     
  35. Meaker@Sager

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    No, it's locked down tight. The only hope is AMD release a 45W trinity in the future.
     
  36. LisuPoland

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    hey meaker did u find time to try out gw2 yet. Also is the optical drive just a blu ray reader or burner? Nice Cod video seems you stayed above 40fps most of the time.
     
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    Optical drive is just a BD reader.

    I been playing GW2 most of the day today and it played damn fine so far.
     
  40. happyhour01

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    Penguin, PVE is easy for any system. What about WvW? Im really interested in that since even Dynamic events are still pretty easy to laptops.

    Thanks!
     
  41. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    I record with Fraps durning gameplay, it does take away some CPU processing power to record and eats away about 5-20 fps, but it's still very playable.
    Then I convert the video files with MediaCoder x64, it's a free program, but very good - it is one of the few of it's kind witch can utilize all 4 cores of the CPU (in our case, the A-10) to convert the files, speeding up the process greatly. I convert to h.264 format.

    What you see in the demo videos I made is still less fps, than what you get without Fraps running in the background. So, if game runs fluently with Fraps on the videos, imagine how smooth it is without Fraps :)

    Here is another video I made in a mission with a lot of commotion going on around, CPU still doesn't choke with all those computer controled units everywhere and fraps running in the back.

    Black Ops 2 on MSi GX60 notebook with HD 7970m GDDR5 and A-10 4600m CPU demo 7 - YouTube
     
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    There does seem to be a little lag but i dont know why, the FPS shows its running 40+ FPS so weird, either way good vid!!
     
  44. William1115

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    Has anyone tried to take the 7970m from GX60 and test it in some other laptop? I'm trying to make it work right now, the GX60 is working fine without it on it's integrated graphics...So i'm trying to get it running on GT683 system with i7 inside..so far no luck with instaling drivers, the laptop is working with 7970, but i was so far unable to install any driver on it :/
     
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    Yes I thought that might happen, it's having the same issue as the clevo cards designed for exclusively switchable systems only.

    It will either need a custom bios by MSI (keep dreaming) or you could try the clevo HM series BIOS.

    I did try to warn people, but they seemed content to ignore me.
     
  46. LisuPoland

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    That is the effect of recording, some fps gets missed durning recording and that crates illusion of lag spikes in-game.
     
  47. Meaker@Sager

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    Oh I got the A6 today, tried it anyway since I had it and no surprises with a black screen and max fan speed.

    Well we know for sure now.
     
  48. William1115

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    the black screen issue can be solved following Blind-flashing guide with HM bios yes... it works, but so far i could not install the drivers :/ ..fortunately enough the card is still working fine when i returned it back to GX60...so..so far, no damage done...I'd like to try another thing, adviced by pau1ow, and that is flashing the Dell bios...if that's not going to work, then this experiment is over ...
     
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    It worked!! :) With default Dell bios, drivers installed, Battlefield 3 tested, temps went max. 74C :)
     
  50. Meaker@Sager

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    Good to hear there is a solution, i'll keep that in mind if anyone else wants to go that way.
     
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