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    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by layjohn, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. LisuPoland

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    Metro: Last Light for example works often with 99% GPU utilization. Same for the newest Tomb Raider.
     
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    No it is not. It is based on two Piledriver modules. Each module boasts two integer cores. However, they share some of the resources that you’d typically find duplicated on more traditional multi-core implementations, such as the fetch and decode stages, floating point units, and L2 cache.
     
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    Hi guys,

    I'm a proud owner of the MSI GX60-1AC with Win8. Aside from my HDD dying in the first 3 months, it's been great.

    However, I just came across an issue where the FN hotkeys no longer work. So functions like disabling the trackpad, P1, Webcam, screen off, etc. do not work any more. In addition, the lights for the Wifi, bluetooth, etc are not lit up, even though they are enabled. However the volume and brightness controll still works fine.

    I remember this happened to me before, but all I did was rebooted the laptop and it was fine. Any ideas how I can get this back up and running? Thanks in advance.
     
  5. radier

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    Do you have correct version of EC firmware?

    Try flashing latest version: http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GX60-1AC.html#/?div=Firmware&nbos=win8

    Have you bought GX60 with Win 8 preinstalled by MSI?

    BR,
     
  6. jtkw

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    Thanks for the reply. I should have the right version since it was working before and that the machine came with Windows 8.

    However I did check the Event Viewer and noticed there was an application error for "Microstar SCM". I notice that there is a SCM software download on the GX60 support page. Am I correct to say that this is the software that controls the hotkeys?
     
  7. radier

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    There is only one way to find out.
     
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    Is that a good thing
     
  9. LisuPoland

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    Yes, that means the GPU is working with it's full power.
     
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    Good to know
     
  11. PySoMaNiC

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    Yeah that controls the lights and some FN buttons, my hard-drive also started to fail about 4 months in sent it back they sent be a brand-new one unopened. I just sold my GX60-1AC to my roommate so he is now the proud owner of that, and I'm the proud owner of a GX70-3BE woot!
     
  12. jtkw

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    Cheers for confirming. I just downloaded the latest version of SCM from MSI and did a simple re-install of SCM. Everything is back to what it was. Thank you.

    That's a bummer about your hard drive. Thankfully the MSI service center here in Australia was very quick in replacing my HDD. I was without my GX60 for only 2 business days. And congrats on owning the GX70, as well as making another person happy with the GX60. ;-)
     
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    Such a problem - when I start Gothic 3 , Fable and Oblivion - games do not starts . Instead of the games the process rundll32 turns on , and burdening the CPU at 30%. ... The problem is only with these games . Others games runs with no problem . Can't find any helpful in the net ...
     
  15. volad123

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    My GX60 is dead. Anyone have any ideas for a I5 or I7 laptop with 2 hd bays and a non-glare screen that I can put my video card from my GX60 in?
     
  16. j_kut

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    Google says: start the games a second time and then kill the rundll32.

    You might also wanna try as admin.

    Double Fine
     
  17. volad123

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    Hi my GX60 has died but i think the video card survived and I don't think crushed is covered by the mfg warranty. Does anyone have any ideas about an I5 or I7 laptop, with 2 hd bays, a non-glare screen, and a crappy video card that I can put my GX60 video card in? I think this may be one way to turn lemons into lemonade.
     
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    No, it was not error other RomID
     
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    Find a barebone 16F2, it takes the 7970M very well and a barebone should be fairly cheap now.
     
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    If its less then one year old you have a one year accidental warranty from MSI as long as you registered it within 30 days.
     
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    Thank you much - big problem resolved . Virtual beer or something you like for you :thumbsup:.
     
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    hey guys, how long is your boot speed with SSD installed? My boot speed seemed to have slowed compared to when I first installed the SSD...
    The loading at the Win 8 splash screen seem to take a big chunk of my boot time...from no power to desktop, about 30-40s..
     
  24. j_kut

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    ~15secs till I'm on the startpage, and another 5 sec until everything (SCM, Autostarts etc) is loaded when going to the desktop
     
  25. highwind85

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    Thanks for the feedback. Mine seems to have a delay before the ssd is being read based on the disk drive indicator LED...
    Already set the SSD as boot priority...but still the same...
     
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    You might want to check your event viewer you might be experience a long hang time on certain processes. I have a Corsair Force Series GS 128GB and it takes 10secs from cold boot to desktop fully loaded.
     
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    Dude, I've never inmy life seen a win-machine boot this fast. o_O
     
  29. highwind85

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    Ok...So i went to have a look at event viewer...under Diagnostics-Performance, i get this:

    Windows has started up:
    Boot Duration : 39631ms
    IsDegradation : false
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2013‎-‎07‎-‎08T11:48:41.753876300Z

    So mine took about 40s to boot...Under details i see this:

    - EventData

    BootTsVersion 2
    BootStartTime 2013-07-08T11:48:41.753876300Z
    BootEndTime 2013-07-08T11:50:34.547981600Z
    SystemBootInstance 151
    UserBootInstance 133
    BootTime 39631
    MainPathBootTime 21131
    BootKernelInitTime 39
    BootDriverInitTime 237
    BootDevicesInitTime 14524
    BootPrefetchInitTime 0
    BootPrefetchBytes 0
    BootAutoChkTime 0
    BootSmssInitTime 3968
    BootCriticalServicesInitTime 335
    BootUserProfileProcessingTime 313
    BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 1
    BootExplorerInitTime 597
    BootNumStartupApps 22
    BootPostBootTime 18500
    BootIsRebootAfterInstall false
    BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits 16384
    BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 0
    BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits 0
    BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0
    BootIsDegradation false
    BootIsStepDegradation false
    BootIsGradualDegradation false
    BootImprovementDelta 0
    BootDegradationDelta 0
    BootIsRootCauseIdentified true
    OSLoaderDuration 1191
    BootPNPInitStartTimeMS 39
    BootPNPInitDuration 14669
    OtherKernelInitDuration 608
    SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS 15270
    SystemPNPInitDuration 189
    SessionInitStartTimeMS 15467
    Session0InitDuration 2238
    Session1InitDuration 304
    SessionInitOtherDuration 1425
    WinLogonStartTimeMS 19436
    OtherLogonInitActivityDuration 784
    UserLogonWaitDuration 338

    So where do i go from here?

    Ok..seems like the 750gb hdd is causing the slow down...boot speed increased significantly after i removed the 2nd hdd..Why is that so?
     
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    I hope Enduro works considering it's an all-AMD machine.
     
  31. Meaker@Sager

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    I hate waiting around lol. The power of UEFI + vector + 4.2ghz i7 :D
     
  32. j_kut

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    boot-order maybe?
    Mine wouldnt boot at all when I had a usb-hdd connected, cause it was set before the actual os-disk in the bios and then somehow got caught in an endless loop...
     
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    hmm...prior to removing the hdd, i have disabled all boot options except windows boot manager, but it still boot in about 40s...so it should have only the ssd to boot from...Does which hdd bay used matters when it comes to system boot?
     
  34. j_kut

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    Dunno, i guess you can set the internal-hdd accordingly to.
    I have my ssd in the slot where the stock-hdd was before.

    How full is your ssd?
     
  35. highwind85

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    I'll try swapping the bays and see how...The SSD is not that full....20gb in C, and 40gb in D....250gb SSD...
     
  36. j_kut

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    I see we even rock them same Samung SSD ;) only difference is probably the boot-order and partition.
    My SSD is only C: and the stock HDD is D:, also I installed Win8 from DVD and killed the original install from MSI.
     
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    Seems like having a second hdd is the cause of the slow down..While i don't know why my GX60 behaves like that..
    Swapping bays doesn't seems to be any different, swapping the 750gb hdd out and put in a 160gb old hdd in also yield the same slow boot time..As far as i can tell, there was a delay in reading the SSD during splash screen based on the hdd indicator.
    Where other hdds were not present, there was no delay and was booted up in about 15s..
     
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    That is very odd my GX60 had no problem with the stock 750GB drive installed and my SSD was installed under the touchpad, when I sent in my 750GB drive and only have the SSD the boot times didn't change. Meaker you devil you had a unlocked bios this whole time and never hinted at us how to get it!

    On another note perhaps your HDD is installed GPT and SSD is installed MBR which might explain some problems with the HDD installed causing boot delays.
     
  39. j_kut

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    I remember someone saing that the unlocked bios for the GT60 bricked his GX60...maybe no good idea for us to try that :/
     
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    Seems like both the ssd and hdd are GPT partition style...Which 1 should it be by default? GPT or MBR?
     
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    To maximize the potential of window 8 (though you cannot install windows 7 on it) and its quick boot you need a GPT partition especially with the UEFI bios. You sure that perhaps you might have programs installed on your HDD that could be causing the delay and hence when taken out the boot time is faster.

    Also simple checks like having fast boot checked with your startup, also if you look at the task manager in windows 8 you can see the last BIOS time check the difference between the HDD installed and without.

    Just my few thoughts off hand best of luck bud!
     
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    The HDD is pretty much empty. I formatted it after i migrated the to SSD. I formatted it again yesterday and it didn't help much. Thanks for your input anyway! I'll try to see if updating the BIOS helps...
     
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    Highwind85

    Are your hard drives set up for AHCI in the bios?

    And is there a Windows installation still on the old hard drive or was it completely formatted and new partition generated? meaning is there still a MBR on it? And in the bios can you select the actual drive to boot from or ".prior to removing the hdd, i have disabled all boot options except windows boot manager". If you have two drives with the same MBR because you cloned them or something like that maybe its causing your issue.
     
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    Hey there!
    Sorry in advance to be kinda a little off topic, but I was wondering if anybody upgraded to the Windows Blue Preview (Win 8.1).
    I made the update a couple of days ago, and until this I've been experiencing poor 3Dmarks11 scores, especially for the physics one.
    For instance, just before the update (Catalyst 13.6 beta 1) : AMD Radeon HD 7660G video card benchmark result - AMD A10-4600M,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16FK
    And after (Catalyst Mobility 13.6 beta 2, same with the newly avalible 13.7 preview for win 8.1) : AMD Radeon HD 7660G video card benchmark result - AMD A10-4600M,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16FK

    I haven't deeply tested global performance...
     
  45. highwind85

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    The HDD was completely formatted and new partition generated.. even if i delete the hdd volume in disk management, windows still boots slowly..

    Even if i disables Boot option #2 to #6, it doesn't help, and under "UEFI HDD BSS Priorities", the SSD is the only available option


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    I've updated on my GX70 and my roommate updated on his GX60 we haven't had any real problems expect the LAN driver & Bluetooth wont install under windows 8.1
     
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    The SSD is a clone of the original drive? It might be worthwhile to restore the MBR if you have a OS disc. Is it Win7
    MBR - Restore Windows 7 Master Boot Record - Windows 7 Help Forums
     
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    No, my machine came with windows 8. It wasn't exactly a clone of the HDD. The machine didn't come with OS disc, so created a USB recovery flask disk, removed the HDD and put in the SSD, then i used the USB recovery disk to factory restore windows onto the SSD. The alignment of the SSD seems fine after restore..
     
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    I'm putting money on this so I recommend you take the advice.

    Not to confuse you with the the details of SSDs and how they are physically changed when writing data.

    Your problem is the in the way you cloned your windows and you say you didnt have a disc so you did a restore with a USB?

    Well you're in luck you can legally download the windows pro x64 iso because you have a legal copy of it. You can then use any bootable mounting file system you want and extract the ISO on the USB (5gb+) then do a complete wipe of your SSD and a nice fresh install of win8.

    I can promise with 99.9% Assurance this will fix your problem, baring in mind any lack of bios or ec update.
     
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    I don't think what i did was cloning like with a HDD cloning tool. What i did was create a bootable USB key with MSI Burn Recovery, like what the one key recovery from the recovery partition does.

    It still doesn't explain why the OS boots fine when the secondary HDD was removed...It does imply that SSD was fine.

    It was not always this slow. When i 1st installed this SSD, I was able to reach the lock screen even before the fan finished flushing (Fan Fix EC)..That was with the secondary hdd installed too..
     
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