*The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

do you guys think that total war: rome 2 would run great on this pc?

 

Who cares about gpu ultization ?
18 fps is still playable !

OS: Windows 7 / Windows 8
Processor: 2nd Generation Intel Core i5 processor (or greater)
Memory: 4GB RAM
Graphics: 1024 MB DirectX 11 compatible graphics card
DirectX:11
Hard Drive: 35 GB HD space
Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Rome 2 will be released September 3.

Yes the a10 is weak but it's capable of 720p
So I'd imagine it will at 720p

 

regarding the cpu requirement, will the a10 suffice?

 

Which a10 do you have?

 

The A10-4600M.

How about with battlefield 3 and black ops 2?

Also, how do I check which version of catalyst I have?

 

If I'm not mistaken this is a Turn Based Strategy game right? The A10 regardless of which one the 5750m or the 4600m will just barely able to deal with these types of games. Expect to be playing at maxed out visual settings but longer times between turns.

I've played both on the system and they run fine for me, maybe not what everyone wants constant 60FPS but from my point of view I had no problem dominating the maps.

 

18 FPS is ok - > for a multimedia sector notebook with mid-range GPU.

18 FPS on a "gaming notebook" as MSi insolently claims it is, is just terrible, and GPU utilization shows you how much rendering power is just wasted and with this notebook depending on the game and moment in-game you lose about 25-60% of the GPU power.

Besides... try to play with 18 FPS in a first person shooter game like Far Cry 3... it will grind your gears durning the first gunfight.

A-10 wasn't even made with inclination towards gaming, but MSi delibaretly stuck it in there anyway to bottleneck this notebook sometimes even to it's "knees".

I know you guys like this model, but believe me majority of GX60 users on other forums complain about this model's lack of performance in games. It's not judged as a multimedia notebook with good GPU, MSi insists this is a gaming notebook, so it is judged as a gaming notebook, not multimedia notebook.

And as a gaming notebook it ultimately fails, already more than few of loud titles are not playable with good FPS and in there future there is only way downhill once games become even more CPU hungry, no CPU upgrade possibility, forget about Kaveri, 1% odds of having FM2 Kaveri is just too much of a risk to buy this model with intent to upgrade in the future.

Stop calling me a basher or hater people, all I say is true.

The only first person shooter that seems to run semingly well is Black Ops 2 (due to ancient engine).

If you think 15 FPS in Saints Row 3 is good, 18-30 fps in Far Cry 3 is good, 20 fps in Crysis games is good, 15-20 min FPS in Borderlands 2 is good, even low as 15 fps in Sleeping Dogs (witch game as a coupon with the damn notebook!) is good... then really you are EASY customers, next time they should try to sell you a toaster as a gaming machine and hope someone falls for it.

 

Ok, what can a10 do ?

 

You're not wrong on all your points, but you exaggerate so much that it really discredits a lot of what you say.

I've played both Crysis 3 and Far Cry 3, and they ran just fine. Welcome to the Jungle is the one level that had frequent dips in the teens, but that level is rough to run even on good gaming desktops. I finished both games, and enjoyed them both quite a bit. Metro Last Light is another great looking game that ran super well on the GX60. I also played and finished Bioshock Infinite. Ran so well. Awesome game.

 

@LisuPoland
You have valid point Why'd you buy gx thén

@ JP510

Crysis 3 was optimized for gx,am I right?

 

what was the lowest fps you were getting?

how would I know if a game is cpu intensive? so i'll know which titles to stay away from

what other cpu is compatible with the gx60? is it possible to put in the a10-6800k?

 

Any of you tried playing Planetside 2 on this?

I heard it's a beast even for i7 CPUs, but can you at least have some fun at reasonable frames with GX60?

Also - is it possible to install a SSD along with the HDD on this laptop? I am looking at the new iteration of GX60 and GX70 and I might go for the 17 inch brother, as I will be watching some blurays as well. The version I am able to find and afford have a 500gb HDD and 6 GB ram, so I will be upgrading that next month when I get some more money.

 

No, it's not playable. Anything less than i7' PS2 eats for breakfast.

So heavy on the CPU that i didn't see GPU usage goes over 50% and barely pushes 25-30fps on heavy fights.

 

Why's that?

 

Because A-10 is so weak it can't send enough info to the GPU to render 60 fps in realtime.

 

But why is Richland so weak,what's the jaguar core? Is it also weak

 

It's not the quantity (Mhz), but quality you're looking for, when it comes to having a gaming CPU - Intel's CPU architecture way surpasses that of AMD's, witch is why an i7 with only 2.3 Ghz will still beat an A-10 with 3.2 Ghz on all cores.

You can't just slap A-10 with 7970m inside, call this a "budget" gaming laptop and call it a day. No gaming laptop should ever have a CPU this weak.

Run a Cinebench test - A-10 4600m scores a mere 2.00-2.25 (depending on the turbo), 2.60 with 5750m is not much better. Such scores are considered very weak. For a 7970m to run without any major bottleneck you need at least a CPU that can score 5.50, you can see how far A-10 is away from that.

If A-10 could score at least 3.50, then I guess I could say this is a fair deal - weaker CPU for lower price of the model, but MSi put far too big emphasis on the "sacrifice", because they decided to go with a CPU that isn't even close to 3.50, hence you got 7970m heavily bottlenecked and wasted.

AFAIK an 7850m paired with A-10 would also be bottlenecked (spite that it's a lot slower, than 7970m).

This is how weak A-10 is, do the math, compare on the internet and see.

Personally I almost stopped playing on my GX60 at all and now I use it mainly for web surfing and watching movies.

 

Will jaguar be better

 

I guess you ask about upgrade, Kaveri will be fm2+ socket and therefore you won't be able to insert it itno GX60. (Trinity and Richland are fm2)

Richland A-10 5750m is as far as you can go (witch is still basicly crap).

 

Pretty sure Undying was referring to his own computer when stating the 25-30 fps stats.

There's a video on youtube showcasing PS2 on maxed out settings, using a GX60.

 

It's the way the game engine was coded....the devs admitted this in an interview and they are changing the engine code as they are porting the game to PS4...
They mentioned that the engine sucks on AMD chip, and suck on multithreading...and that AMD users will see a boost once they are done with the optimization..
PlanetSide Engine's "Big Challenge" is that AMD Chip "Heavily Relies on Multi-Threading", "Not Something all Developers Will Have as a Hurdle" [Update] - PlayStation LifeStyle

This is exactly why next gen console using AMD chips are good for PC gaming...games would be more optimized and resource utilization would be better rather than just relying on increase raw power....

 

I agree that having an APU in both next-gen consoles is a good thing for the future of PC gaming on an AMD APU chip.

Don't get me started on the fact that it is a customized chip for each system, and that it is an apple to oranges comparison between PC and Consoles gaming. The immediate gain will be little, but the long term looks pretty awesome.

 

yeah...while we wont be able to compare pc and console gaming directly, and i suspect one would require a much stronger hardware than the console hardware due to console optimization, at least the console hardware now are more similar to PC than before (x86 architecture)...the weaker single threaded performance of the amd customized chips would compel devs to make more optimization to their game engine...

 

will the amd a10 6800k fit in this laptop?

 

No, it won't.

 

LOL

Different sockets?

 

6800K is a desktop chip.

 

Love how you changed your reply from "No we're f'ed" to "No, it won't", clearly not knowing that the 6800k isn't even a laptop chip. You jump on those opportunities to bash on the GX60 like a fly on sh_t.

 

Question was if this CPU would fit in GX60, so I answered that no, and yes we're f*** because A-10 5750m is as far you can go.

 

is the A-10 5750m worth it?

 

For what...

 

Not really... it's just 10% faster, than A-10 4600m.

We would need a CPU at least twice as fast as A-10 4600m to mitigate the bottleneck.

 

Hi,

Quite new to the forum and just to say, I tried to read almost every post on that thread, quite exhausting.. I won't restart the debate on the performance...

My main concern is that I bought the GX60 2 months ago, the A10-4600, sold in Canada. And for the past couple of days, it seems that my wireless network adapter is driving me crazy. I tried installing and reinstalling drivers, OS and even tried Ubuntu... The thing is that it seems that my wireless adapter can't connect to any wifi access point if it's farther than a couple of feets away. Do I have to RMA the laptop so that my card can be fixed or I shouldn't bother and get me a new card? If I'm to get a new card, which one should I consider (cards that are currently working for the GX60) and where should I buy it?

Thanks people for your time!
J

 

I personally dont have a GX60, but been lurking for a while. It sounds like an antenna issue, so check to make sure the leads are connected to the wifi card.... as for how to do that, one of these fine members would be able to better advise you on that

Sent from my GT-P7310 using Tapatalk 4

 

Thanks! Fortunatly, I know how to look at the wireless adpater under the hood, it was more about warranty issues or where to find a replacement, meaning which one I should get.

 

I just upgraded mine with the Killer 1103 Wlan which really gave me like minus 15ms on the ping and better signal strentgh.

 

Thanks! I'll have a look at it!

 

I just upgraded my GX60-1AC with APU 10-5750M from Ebay, works much better, all games have risen from 5-10fps average

 

how much did you pay for the apu?

 

Hey, me again! I tought I knew where I could find easily the place where he wifi adapter is under the hood... Any hint?

 

yes , 150€ , aprox 186$ , for me it was worth it, I think it is the best upgrade you can make to GX60

 

Hold your horses with that 5-10 more FPS.

Yes 5-10 more FPS in games that are not that much CPU demanding, the CPU demanding games like GTA series, Saints Row series, Crysis Series, Witcher 2, Borderlands 2 ect. will still dip to barely higher uncomfortable frames.

 

How about an overclocked A8-5550M?

 

That one is AFAIK even faster, than A-10 5750m (way to go AMD with your naming scheme), when you OC it (it must be an ES sample unit).

But we don't know about it's support by the BIOS.

 

Has anyone played Dark Souls on gx ?

 

I hope this too is supported

 

Always 30fps

subirimagenes

 

Typically it's the GPU unit that is crippled on lower models so if you get one that can overclock with the 7970M it will be far better.

 

Hello all
I'm from Russia)

I have installed at my GX60 backlit keyboard and it worked. After I made mistake - I put firmware from GT60 =)
So after repair, I've been received my GX with new motherboard.... But now backlit doesn't work

connection is ok, Can it bee becouse now I have new revision of motherboard?
Ofcourse cable could been broken, bit I think this is not true

 

I was lagging terribly... until i noticed the white light

Been smoooooth sailing ever since

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm using DSFix [highly recommended] and have unlocked the frame rate to 45fps, though I have no doubt that you can go higher. I have _not_ finished the game though, playing very rarely/slowly...