*The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

FWIW, nvidia guys are even having a hard time with bf4 and system heat. Talking 90+Celsius, even on the flagship 780m

 

http://blog.pclab.pl/chaostheory/Mantle.Jestem.sceptyczny,261


Wysane z mojego GT-N7000 przy uyciu Tapatalka

 

Hey man, As it turns out I'm actually a Polish speaker so read through the article you posted...
and yeah I can vouch that you just directly translated the words of Johana Anderssona The technical director of the Frostbite engine!

Surprising hearing such downplaying from him given that in a week I believe he will be at the AMD APU13 selling the product to the masses.

Good find raider!

 

Depends on how you tweak the cooler I was having a blast at around 1ghz core with the 780M. Anyway yes the good news is good frames for everyone which is what I like to see.

 

I installed it shortly after that post, I'm not breaking 65C on my 770m

 

Any news on the newest Call of Duty: The Phantom Menace?

Does it run at all on multiplayer on GX60?

 

It probably will. Will check it tomorrow. I expect it to run fine on my GX60, BF4 runs fine too and i think that game is more CPU intensive..

 

Hi there :hi2:
Is there any performance increase in DX9 on the latest drivers 13.9? Should I change? Whether to stay on 13.4 ? And how about Windows 8.1 ? Any problems after updeate for 1AC users with W8 64 bit ?

 

I did a vbios dump from the 7970m on a gx60 1ac using the atiflash utility. I'm uploading it here hoping that someone can find a way to change the voltage settings for it. I want to undervolt the 7970m to reduce temperatures and prevent overheating, because this thing gets pretty hot under full loads (105C for me). I know its capable of being this hot for short amounts of time, but I'm worried about the longevity of the card if it goes through this kind of heat over longer periods of time.

View attachment MSI-AMD7970M-015-024.zip

If there is a way to undervolt the 7970m, you would probably be able to overlclock it and still have temperatures that won't be too high, which is nice for a laptop. Also, undervolting will reduce power draw and could help with battery life.

The Dell Alienware laptops that have 7970m cards in them have vbios mods out there that you can flash. There are mods that change the clocking, memory speeds, undervolting, overvolting, etc. Its as simple as booting into DOS and using a command line to flash it. I'm suprised there aren't any vbios mods for the 7970m cards for MSi. This laptop has been out for over a year now. Anyways, I saw in earlier posts people requests for a vbios of the MSi 7970m, so here you go, and any support for undervolting would be greatly appreciated

 

HI, There is I have successfully flashed my bios of the 7970m to change it to a 8970m (I think that is the abbreviation). The link to bios is in this thread,(cant remember which page) and at about page 299 people describe how you can use MSI afterburner to do what you want to do, but my opinion is check your cooling at 8970m clock my GPU temp never rise above 80C (in non of my games and I completed Crysis 3 metroLL hitman........never played multiplayer though.). Hope it helps.

 

You cant OC to uber levels with undervolt it depends on the individual card tho.

Here is vbios with everything stock but voltage is reduced to 0.975v (I am not responsible for any damage!)

View attachment HD7970m0975v.zip

 

So I've been monitoring GPU usage in all my most played games and basically none of them really come close to maxing out the 7970M. Summers arrived also so its regularly hitting 85c which is when the fan kicks kicks in big time. I decided to both underclock and undervolt it seeing as the A10 doesn't push it hard enough anyway. These are the settings I've been trying and am happy with:

Core: 750MHz
Memory: 1100MHz
Vcore: 0.95v

So I've taken 100MHz of both core and memory and pulled the voltage down to 0.95v. Truthfully I could have lowered the voltage more but I want 100% stability. I've been playing Skyrim and performance is the exact same as before as expected. Except instead of hitting 85c its now only hitting 73c and the laptop is alot quieter. Overall pretty happy.

I don't really see the point in overclocking or even running stock when the max utilization of the 7970M I really ever see is in the 70s/80s. Highly recommend doing this if noise is bothering you or you just want to cool the 7970M down a bit more.

If anybody wants the bios here it is. I pulled it straight from my own GX60 and edited it with VBBE so it's a proper MSI 7970M vbios. Nothing was changed bar core and mem speeds and the vcore. Not responsible for damage etc etc.

 

Really it wants to be combined with the overclocked cpu if you want to overclock9ck the gpu.

 

There is some kind of "improvement" in DX9 at 13.9 . Using the GPU is always 99%. Temperature 6-8 degrees more than the 13.4. ... Only fps unchanged . MSI sad joke .

 

Fault of the crappy A-10 CPU.

 

I doubt it. I think the A10 is strong enough to Oblivion, The Witcher ( 1 ) , and other older games that do not have any increase fps on new drivers ... It is better to me 40-60% of the GPU usage and lower temperatures. I went back to 13.4.

 

It's clearly a driver bug with the 7970M

 

Hi everyone,

I wanted to install Win 7 on UEFI. Is it possible to do so with the GX60 1AC?

 

Hi, I had brightness problems in the past for my GX60 and could fix it by deinstalling the screen driver.
I updated to Windows 8.1 and now the brightness problems (birghtness cant be adjusted) are back and can`t be fixed the way before.
I tried different amd drivers but it does not work for me
Any ideas how the problem can be fixed?

greetings from germany

 

Hi try this:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/692264-offical-msi-gx60-owners-lounge-213.html#post9253815 post nr 2124

 

Hi all again, was busy.

Locked at 3.2Ghz as skidmarek posted on picture... is it a bug of bar edit, that u need to select any bit to change, before write and save ? As i understant, in AMD overdrive it must show all cores are multiplier 32x and never drop below that ? Is that what BAR-Edit does ?
Goin to buy A8 5550m ES. Will i need do same things as with my a10 (editin bits in BAR-Edit), or there are other ways to get 3.5 or 3.8 Ghz on A8 ?

 

hey guys, quick question. is this the A8 5550m ES that everyone is talking about?

100 New AMD Quad Core Mobile A8 5550M 2 1GHz Socket FS1 AM5550DEC44HL | eBay

is it really only a $50 chip?

 

This seems to be a standard A-8 witch is worse, than A-10 5750m.

 

Seems that is not Engineering sample (ES) edition = worse then a10

 

ES are very limited in quantities (and illegal to sell), so I doubt we will ever see more of them on sale.

 

Yeah and there are typically not that many AMD ones floating about compared to intel.

 

The BIOS must offer CSM mode in order for you to install Win7 UEFI.
Check the BIOS settings and see if you have it or not.

 

@ Col100

Thanks a lot, fixed the problem!

regards

 

Has anyone with a GX60 experienced problems upgrading to windows 8.1?

I've attempted the free upgrade from Windows 8 numerous times (having updated the computer fully prior to installation). Every time after restarting and completing the 8.1 configuration I'm lead to the windows boot error and disc repair screen. From here I've either had to load a restore point from 8 or completely erase 8.1.

I've waited a few days in hopes of some update, and attempted the upgrade again to no avail. Drivers are all up to date. I've heard rumors of steel series drivers causing boot problems.

Is anyone else having problems?

 

Most likely as I said previously it's the Steelseries drivers.
Had exact same problem, They now have 8.1 compatible file
Download the right one for the product your using here:

SteelSeries - Downloads

If you don't have a steelseries mouse or whatever then keep looking I guess?

 

I bought my processor from Atom Ant here around $160, he vendor from AMD or something, so safe source to buy. He actually ran a test on my particular A8, so I did know what I'm paying for. Still seems like he might have access for more good processors!

 

more good? Since my first test I have seen so many ES and most of them are garbage and they go there! They cannot take any more than 3.2GHz near high voltage or show some instability, which especially true for the A10 ones with 1866MHz controller. Poor my HP machine, I do not even know how many times was in pieces and I wonder still working .

 

Thanks for the help on the update. As this keyboard for the laptop is not external, obviously there was no specific driver for it on the site. I instead downloaded and installed the steelseries 2 driver at the bottle of the page. Is that the correct one? I'm not trying to be a pest, but continually installing and fixing my crashed laptop is annoying, so if anyone knows if that driver did in fact fix the issue, that would be great.

 

Can you tell what was your best A8 processor, were you test all?

 

Oh, yeah, all my A8 Es that went out was 3.4+, the A10 ones went straight to garbage. My best A8 is 3.6GHz 1.167V and still have it! However if I consider how many A8ES is a disappointment, an 3,4GHz with 1.18V still considered as very good CPU. The reason why AMD give so much extra voltage for retail A10-5750m to ensure it's stability... all different

 

I figured you probably had the drivers for the free mouse that came with the laptop (hitman edition), if not it may be another problem..
But yes the problem was if any old steel series drivers were installed it would not get past the final boot up sequence and would eventually revert. I installed steelseries 2 driver and then it installed without any problems..

All I can say is give it another try and if not keep looking for another conflicting file. As others here have not had this problem I assume it's because you had to actually install steel series drivers on to it yourself (as I did for my mouse) if you didn't already have old drivers it may be something else...

 

Wow, 1.18v for 3.4GHz seems quite high. I'm running 3.2GHz @ 1.125v on my A10, haven't even tried to go lower. FX8350 Piledrivers are usually good for 4GHz @ 1.25v too.

I'm thinking A8s are just A10s that didn't meet some sort of electrical requirements, eg too much voltage for x speed so they clock them lower and disable a few GPU cores

 

Hey guys, wondering if you can help me out?

1) Is there any way of installing an SSD using the recovery discs? If not, how would I go about it without having to purchase windows 8 again (I have a separate upgrade key if that helps).

2) In your opinion, how do you think this laptop will fare in future games with the next gen consoles having similar hardware to the GX60. I saw a video online of BF4 more playable than BF3. I'm thinking of bumping this laptop off and getting an i5/765m instead but not sure if it's worth the hassle, I'm only a very casual gamer.

Inb4 LisuPoland cries about how bad the GX60 is.

 

Hey sniffin, how do u lock voltage? Mind teaching me step by step? thanks

 

Sorry, I meant 1.167V for 3.6GHz, which the best ES I've seen so far. The worst pieces unstable still at 3.0-3.2GHz, 1.12V. The rest ones are somewhere between the two end...

 

my got stable at 3.7GHz with 1.212V. Its good but there is other problem. I dont have 100% chance to succesfull OC. Its like 66%. The issue is only while changing settings in OverDrive. If it fails all cores go down to 900MHz and got faking stable so no changes are possible. So I have to restart lappy.

 

Have a look at these posts. First one to lock your CPU at 3.2GHz, but the instructions to lock voltages are a bit unclear. So see the 2nd post if you don't understand the voltage lock bit

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/692264-offical-msi-gx60-owners-lounge-276.html#post9376146
http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/692264-offical-msi-gx60-owners-lounge-285.html#post9388561

 

1. Create the recovery discs first, switch out the drive to SSD, then use recovery discs to restore the factory OS onto the SSD. Most likely this method should work.
2. Games that leans toward CPU-heavy do not perform well on the system, and most of games out there are usually heavy on the CPU side more than GPU side. The CPU in the system is known to cause bottleneck on the GPU.

Overall, this laptop focuses on value and it is a great value for what you are going to pay. Be sure to make your research to see if this unit really suits all of your purposes and compare it against Intel systems.

 

That is excellent indeed:thumbsup:. Unfortunately with my HP I never could set higher frequency than 3.6GHz, because immediate throttle back to 1900MHz. I think I'll keep my 1.167V 3.6GHz A8 piece and in a nice day when I buy a GX60, I will check its actual top speed.

 

gx60 for $750. Been reading these forums for 2-3 hours now. I think its a killer deal

 

Well for that price it's hard to argue lol.

 

For that price yes. And if someone is proficient in notebook modding, he (she, lol?) might try to rip 7970m out from GX60 and put it into another machine.

 

Yeah. Wonder if such thing is doable!

 

No more CPU bottleneck with Mantled games;

 

I am still debating weather to get the gx60 or not due to the processor. Is there any solid proof mantle will change anything significantly? Or just empty promisses?

My only concern is playing total war 2, civ 5 sort of games and i believe this machine cant make this a happy bargain due to the processor?

Am i right?