*The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

Please!

The thing is that it does run fine when being around PVE world. The problem is that Guildwars 2 is not only about PVE but instead PVP which includes WVW. Now its WVW the real problem which happens to be more CPU hungry than GPU. So yeah, im really interested in knowing how the a10 4600m handles it.

 

So I've decided to get it from XoticPC tomorrow, no way to avoid the tax from Gentech =p (although they do have some tempting blackfriday/cyber monday specials...)

I was wondering if anyone had experience with XoticPC. I'm sure they're all wonderful sales rep, but just wondering if anyone had actual purchased from any particular one, and would like to recommend any particular person. You guys are welcome to PM me, if names are not allowed to be given out publicly.

 

GenTech would be my choice.

I had a lot of respect for XOTIC until recently when I saw the rules of their Christmas Giveaway.

US Residents Only
Custom Laptops, Gaming Notebooks, Custom Gaming Laptops | XOTIC PC

NBR recently tried to have a US only giveaway but the members outrage changed the rules to worldwde

They are a company that wants to sell worldwide but not share their contest with the international community.

Last year they were supposed to giveaway 5 XBox 360 Consoles but I never saw any winner announced
Xbox 360 Giveaway! | XoticPC Blog

 

Bought this laptop yesterday (Netherlands) and it arrived this morning. This afternoon i will place my Intel SSD in it as systemdisk. I will primarily playing Starcraft 2 (HotS beta), BO2 and LoL. I can fraps some gaming footage on it if anyone is interested. Just tell me your wishes what you want to see.

 

Made no difference, but in safe mode the ethernet works fine, so im leaning towards an application making it crash. Anyway from a BSOD to see what caused the crash

 

I ordered mine from Gentech about a week ago. They are technically out of stock. So far, nothing. I emailed Ken Lee asking for updates, so far nothing.. so be prepared to be patient. He told me there would be more shippings coming in this week, but he hasn't answered my e-mail for a few days now.

 

Yah I spoke with him last week, they told me they will be getting shipment some time this week.

I ordered mine from Xoticpc already, hopfully get it by next week

 

I spoke to Ken today and he mentioned that they're expecting the shipment end of this week. Hope you guys waited till black friday to order, they had a nice deal to upgrade RAM to 12 GB for free lol

 

Played Starcraft 2 on max settings last night, ran smooothly! Also played Blackops 2 for 1 hour. At max settings i experienced some mouse lag. After a little search i disabled vsync.My FPS went up to 100 with 0 mouse lag. So happy with this laptop! I have placed my Intel SSD as main disk btw.

 

Hello I'm new in the forum,just want to ask where did you buy this laptop in Europe? I live in Italy and most of U.S. online shops doesn't ship oversea and customs could be a big problem in my country (think it's 21% + 8% of the total price).
I looked for this laptop a bit online,just found notebook.de that it's selling this for 1199€.
Tahnks for any advice !

 

Just ordered mine yesterday can't wait. I was wondering if any owners here have tried changing the MSI logo light color by themselves?

 

Since it uses the bleed from the lcd panel to light it, you could just stick a filter behind it.

 

BTW what type of connector is on the optical drive, SATA 2? 3?

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**uh.... I think someone is editing my posts?!** If I'm doing something wrong please pm me.... rather my posts and stuff are magically disappearing...

 

Played Farcry 3 a few minutes ago on my laptop. With all video quality settings on ultra (maxed out) the game runs smooth. Dont know how it runs in the open world yet.. only played the few first minutes of mission 1.

 

I also played Far Cry 3.

Max settings just like you and good news is it runs very good outside aswell. Solid 30+ fps, but those 30 fps feel a lot smoother, than in other games.

Powerful notebook indeed

 

thats good news. I love far cry games. I can't wait for my gx60 to come. Your lucky you all get far cry 3 early we can't get it here until dec 4.

 

I am heavily looking at the GX60, can't wait for some people to get their hands on it and post reviews/benchmarks!

You do realize almost every contest in the US states US residents only? A quick google turned up:

How Stuff Works - Contests invalid in RI and other countries

 

For those of you installing a ssd as a boot drive, how did you install windows 8? Did you just clone the drive over or do a fresh install?

I read cloning a OS over from hd to ssd is bad and if you do a fresh install, am I losing any important features like function keys and etc?

 

I don't remember where I read, that windows optimizes itself when it detects it's being installed on a SSD and that is why it's not recommended to clone a HDD to a SSD. Hope this helps.

 

And then there is the argument for not installing to SSD other than a clone, to prevent those millions of writes to the disk that will cut its performance and longevity, compared to a single write of the clone.

 

Hi GX60 owners! A question from a soon-to-be owner. (Waiting for the shipment)

1. Can Enduro be disabled with this laptop?
2. If yes, How's the optimization with it turned off?

Thanks in advance.

 

The initial install is like installing anything else, you could fill most drives every day and clear it out and it would still last longer than a traditional hard drive.

1. Yes with the unlocked bios, but then you are integrated only and loose the 7970M entirely.
2. Not applicable.

Only alienware systems use high performance cards that can be switched to dedicated only mode.

 

You could potentially disable it in BIOS (if you had the right version), but you may not want to...(more on that below). Like Meaker said only the Alienware currently have the option of dedicated only GPU from a BIOS level. With the Alienware systems there was an area in the BIOS where they could force the dedicated/discrete graphics to always be on, and an fn+f7 hot key to force the system to only run with one of the two GPUs, and if the BIOS/hardware level never told the OS that there was a integrated GPU then you could get away with using non-Enduro drivers (because the system wouldn't know any better). From an Enduro driver level you can force the system to use only one GPU ( see link: AMD Enduro). A lot of Enduro and Optimus users are complaining that they want to have 100% GPU utilization of the dedicated/discrete card, but there are facts that I think they are overlooking or forgetting about. When they are in a game Windows is still running in the background, and its using the Integrated GPU (it would be a waste of power and resources to have the basic and mundane features of Windows using the dGPU when it doesn't provide any benefit, consumes power, and consumes resources). For that reason you don't want 100% GPU utilization. If the game is running the dGPU, but Windows is running the iGPU then the system will not be using 100% of either, and thus the program monitoring dGPU utilization will not display 100%. In the days of running a DOS operating system you could give a program exclusive use of the system, but in the days of multitasking (where you have a ton of applications, services, and tasks running in the background) it would make things inefficient and slow to run single programs exclusively. (Each task would have to load necessary drivers, launch its services, find any associated files it needs, and upload its data to the CPU, GPU, and RAM. With multitasking drivers and services (unless set to manual) are already launched, files are already loaded into caches and buffers (if you use files alot, and the system expects it).

 

True, but most SSDs will lose significant performance when you do so, if you accept that, and that it will still be faster that a traditional hard drive then youre OK. If you want the fastest performance then best to limit writes, and installing Windows is a lot. And if you don't use Win7 or 8, then you also dont have trim to help the upkeep.

 

If you have it properly setup with TRIM enabled and such, then performance should be pretty consistent.

 

How does the msi turbo work? Trinity is supposedly locked down. Does it work like pscheck and bump the pstates? Might as well ask how is overclocking in general. I have seen posts about pscheck working but how far does it take you?

 

There is no turbo included on the machine on the graphics or on the CPU.

The included cooling does mean that the 4600m will happily run along at 2.7ghz though.

 

Guess theres no easy overclocking method then
Any way at all to overclock the a10 at all? I have seen a pic here http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...n-dv6z-7000-amd-a10-4600m-trinity-review.html that shows a Pb0 state that can go up the 3.2 The op only mentioned going to 2.7 however. Can you try putting it to Pb0 and see if it is stable?

 

Only 2 modules can enter that state at any time and you can't even force it then, 2.7ghz is the fastest you can lock it to.

The main hope is a 45W refresh of trinity is released, but it's not something to rely on.

I did everything I could to try to get round it in the unlocked bios including creating new Pstates and seeing if they could go higher.

 

Hey Guys, so my GX60 is coming in the mail tomorrow. I have been researching a bit about beefing it up with more, lower latency ram. I know the Max speed supported is 1600 Mhz. I don't remember if it was on this thread or some other, but some people reported that it comes with a stock latency of 11. I would like to put in 10 or 9 CAS latency. There is the Kingston Hyper X, 16GB (2x8) with CAS of 9, or the Corsair Vengeance 16GB with CAS of 10. Or some 2x4 9

My main questions are, is the upgrade worthy? Will I see a noticeable difference with faster RAM? Also, should I just go with faster RAM, but sticking with 8 GB in the interest of saving money? There are really 3 options I am considering.

A) leaving it as is. Not worth it to spend if no significant performance increase. ($0 USD)
B) Get lower latency ram, but stick to 8GB. Since only 8, go with 9 CAS. (Around $40 USD)
C) Get lower latency ram, upgrading it to 16GB. Since going to 16, going only with 10 CAS because of price issues (9CAS 2x price!) (around $80 USD)

Also, since I am quite noobish at upgrading PC's I don't know exactly what to do regarding the BIOS, do I need to make any changes (and how to do them) so that the system can use the lower latency RAM, or does it do so automatically?

Thank you!

 

The way i look at it I would just leave it. People have showed this laptop to perform in gaming on max settings without doing anything to it. Most games currently if not all never need more than 8gb ram as it is. Id save the money since this is a gaming laptop Id suspect you bought it for gaming.

 

Lower latency ram helps, but only so much.

It just helps support the 4600M as much as possible.

 

Hello fellow owners,

Im new to this forum, so go easy on me, please

I have Far Cry 3 for 2 days Now, but my laptop is drunk. My laptop plays fc3 on the Intel videocard, not the 7970, so i van only play every thing on low..

When playing a game you can see on what card you're playing by looping at the power-button (White for the 56 and Orange for the 7970), but mine just keeps on being White...

My question; how can i make games running on the 7979 card?

This is the first time i bought a laptop, and i really want it to work just fine

I hope you guys (and Girls ofc) can help me

 

It's amd integrated graphics too no intel in the gx60.

In ccc you should have switchable settings.

 

Hello guys

Ok so I'm registered here because I get this laptop a week ago, and this forum has many interesting things here
So far the laptop is working perfectly fine, get good fps on games, and i have an 120GB SSD in it so the windows is fast as hell... I have only one game (GTA IV) where, i don't know why but i don't get the enough fps to enjoy.

I'm just wondering can we as a team create a program to our laptops for the control panel, cause we (who have no backlight keyboard) have a unused button, we can just use it for change to LCD backlight min to max, and max to min... Or something like this...

 

Easy fix for this is this:

Go you your PowerPlay settings and set the notebook on Maximum Performance on both Un-plugged and Plugged-in settings. This should force you 7970m to be always ON. Check the other Tabs aswell, if there is anything related to performance/power plan -> set it to maximum performance.

 

GTA IV is well known at being a horrible port that eats processors for breakfast. It would be very helpful to people looking to buy this laptop what your experiences are with that game because it can be a good indication of the difference between the AMD processor and an i7.

What FPS do you get? What settings are you running at? Is the 7970 being utilized?

 

Never mind guys enjoyable 30-35 fps on GTA IV, i just realized that if its need cpu power i can help on my cpu with my ssd, so i just copied the game to my ssd with steam.
Benchmark: 37.32FPS (High-Ultra settings)

 

AMD Catalyst™ 12.11 Beta 11 Driver

AMD Catalyst

Please note that AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta11 includes all of the fixes found in previous versions of AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta)

Improves performance in Far Cry 3 (up to 25% with 8xMSAA, SSAO enabled @ 1600p, and up to 15% with 8xMSAA, HDAO enabled @1600p) (AMD Catalyst 12.11 CAP2 must also be installed)
Resolves a sporadic system hang encountered with a single AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series GPU seen on X58 and X79 chipsets.
Resolves an intermittent hang encountered with AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series GPUs in a CrossFire Eyefinity setup.
Resolves image corruption found in certain DirectX 9.0c titles
Resolve missing fonts issue in XBMC
Resolves no video issue found in Media Player Classic Home Cinema when using full or half floating point processing
Resolves stability issues found in the previous AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta8 driver for Linux
For users experiencing issues with HDMI Audio under Ubuntu 12.04, users should try installing the “dkms-hda - 0.201211291615~precise1” package from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/+packages and reboot; this will resolve the HDMI Audio issue found in Ubuntu 12.04
AMD Catalyst 12.11 CAP2 has just been released, and should be used in conjunction with AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta11
Improves Far Cry 3 performance for single GPU configurations with AA enabled

 

I love this laptop, my only gripe is not even a basic 1 colour backlit keyboard but that's not why I am here tonight, I need some help, badly.

I am not able to change the brightness in Windows 8, I have tried latest beta AMD drivers, no good.
I can't re-install, the partition seems corrupt and there is no windows 8 key anywhere in the litrature or on the boxes or laptop.
My screen is brighter on batter than it is plugged in and it's driving me insane gaming in darkness.

the fixes I have seen are all for Intel graphics/AMD dedicated and registry scans dont have any trace of the key DWORD I need to change, "FeatureTestControl" has to have a value of =dword:0000f940 apparently....

Anyway, to top it off, I bought an upgrade key to go to Windows 8 PRO and now I can't even download the ISO from M$ cause it's an upgrade key :-\ Microsoft 3 calls later and i'm in no-where land. Registry cleaners have done squat to help.

Anyone know what I can do??

 

I have the same problem with my 7970m Dell card in my gt683dx running win8 pro with wmc -> cannot adjust brightness no matter what I have tried. I am happy it's stuck on max though.

Download any untouched ISO of win8 from the internet and install with your key (upgrade keys can be used for clean installs using a certain method that I believe you should google yourself).

 

i'll have to find a trustworthy source. no guarantees it's going to fix the issue either. It's got to be drivers somewhere...

 

Hi!

I have the same brightness changer problem... I think it's because of the beta8 driver, today I will install the latest beta11, I hope it's repaired in the 11

 

It is because of drivers and still broken with Beta 11.

Thought i'd post again, since I have fixed this issue for myself in around 4 steps.

Steps -:
1.) - Log on to MSI website and download the AMD driver package (Yes, it's older)
2.) - Express uninstall ALL AMD drivers (DO NOT REBOOT)
3.) - Extract the MSI driver package somewhere and then Right Click and select 'Run as Administrator'
4.) - Re-Boot the laptop.

My GX60 is now working properly, obviously the drivers are Beta for a reason, maybe they are not the Mobile chipset version ?

 

If I do this, I lose my extra performance because of tha beta deivers... Need to be an other way to solve this problem...

 

I'm confused as to what the problem is.

Can you not adjust the brightness using the shortucts or everything is too bright even at lowest setting?

 

Driver incompatibility, I can't change the brightness even if I try with the control panel power options or use the keyboard function keys or the catalyst stuff either.

 

beta 11 decreases my farcry 3 performance.. Switching back i guess..

 

They are the mobile beta, it's just an issue that needs to be fixed prior to WHQL. Your method would install the original drivers which have brightness control but none of the performance increases.

 

Can You give us some data, or just fps before after?