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  1. Kevin@GenTechPC

    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

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    Check if DC jack is loose when gently wiggled.
    Use multimeter to measure if there's any voltage coming out from your AC adapter.
     
  2. gx60user

    gx60user Newbie

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    Thanks for the reply.

    I don't believe the adapter/jack would be the issue though as this has happened whilst having plenty of battery charge left.
     
  3. Chrack

    Chrack Notebook Consultant

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    Hello Guys,
    Can someone tell me how i can overclock my 8970?
    Tryed "afterburner" but dont work.

    Gesendet von meinem GT-N7000
     
  4. Alklaine

    Alklaine Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ouch, that is a bigger performance hit than I expected. I do enjoy MSI products (quite a lot), but to get to their 780M is $2K. Thats too much of a price increase, do you think I should bear with the performance hit, or should I look for another brand with a 775M or 780M paired with the i7?
     
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    knives2100 Newbie

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    one quick question.. can i use the bios firmware of gx60 "hitman edition" to my gx60-1ac?.. i'm facing problem with my laptop, it doesn't turn off and restart.. i mean, the orange led is "on" in the power button, but it doesn't turn off.. tnx
     
  6. LisuPoland

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    Yes, it's the same chipset.
    Ja, es ist dasseble Chipsatz.
     
  7. Chrack

    Chrack Notebook Consultant

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    I have the Problem that i can´t overclock the 8970.
    Installed Trixx and can change the GPU/RAM Clock and the System set this clock.
    Can see it in Trixx and GPU-z the new Clocks.

    [​IMG]

    But the new clocks don´t work!
    In Benchmarks the FPS is the same.
    For testing i set the gpu to 1100mhz and ram to 1600 and the system dont crash.

    Why i cant overclock the GPU?

    My System GX60 AMD A10 5850 + 8970M
     
  8. Kevin@GenTechPC

    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

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    The GPU itself is probably worth more than $500-600 from nVidia.
    The price doesn't justify performance if you compare it to the desktop counterpart, but it's definitely the best in mobile platform.
    The pricing must had been done carefully to insert this product in the high end segment, and if you want to shop around you can but most likely the price will drop after CES due to the release of new mobile GPUs.
    Alternatively, 770M is reasonably priced and you can overclock it to achieve a slightly better performance with it.
     
  9. raul-77

    raul-77 Notebook Geek

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    You have to disable the ULPs to be able to oc the GPU do it this way:
    What the ULPs have open regedit in search and then hkey_local_machine, system, ControlSet001, control, class, 4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318, clik on the 000 folder in registry editor you want enableulps values ​​point out right click to modify is 1 change to 0 enableulps_na accept and do the same, folder 002 enableulps change from 1 to 0, restart the laptop and you're
     
  10. LisuPoland

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    Actually I don't think turning off the enableulps will be a good idea in a longer term - you will get higher power consumption from 7970m and the powerbrick will have more work when providing power to the 7970m, even durning idle (leaving the notebook for the night to download stuff from the internet), leading to the potentially higher risk of a random powerbrick failure.
     
  11. raul-77

    raul-77 Notebook Geek

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    I've been more than two years with another laptop and giving off the ULPs much use without any problem, also say that it is better to remove the battery to die not because of the constant load.
     
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    If you really want to always have an overclock on then you could disable it for now, find out what clocks you want to run all the time and pay SVL7 some beer money to lock those clocks in for you in a custom vbios.
     
  13. raul-77

    raul-77 Notebook Geek

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    Well I honestly do not overclock the gpu on the GX60, so that if the processor is still insufficient, the GPU outperforms the CPU
     
  14. Chrack

    Chrack Notebook Consultant

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    Ok i disabled ULP´s and now work MSI Afterburner.

    Here my normal stock Benches:

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    But after i use MSI Afterburner with the stock 950MHz GPU , GPU-z shows always 950MHz, it stays now on 950 and don´t drop to 300 without load.
    And now in Furmark my FPS jump from 44 to 68 :eek:
    [​IMG]
    Whats this??
    Same MHz but 24FPS more ??

    In 3DMark are all normal!
    No more FPS or Points like stock.
     
  15. Mullrof

    Mullrof Notebook Consultant

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    I am using that bios at 1AC. No problem spotted.
    The issue that you are talking about may be cause by overclocked A8 ES. If you have it make sure you are turning off computer with stock clocks. The hardware refuses to respond with restarting system while CPU is clocked higher then 3.2GHz.
    Thats the case I am trying to work with. I need unlocked bios :(
     
  16. JamieT93

    JamieT93 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Glad im not the only one that has the freezes on shutdown when OCing too high, 3.2ghz is my default clock unless i'm gaming, i'll put it up to 3.7ghz.
     
  17. dabidbobol

    dabidbobol Notebook Guru

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    i don't understand what you would want?
    use pscheck and let only one state PX cause PB are with turbo mode.
    more voltage use PSCHECK too .
     
  18. raul-77

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    I have 3.7 mhz stable in some games
     
  19. raul-77

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    Sorry thought that also had the unlocked bios and nullified the turbo in the bios
     
  20. dabidbobol

    dabidbobol Notebook Guru

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    hihihihi stable 4.0 games benchmark for me :D

    in bios only if you have a unlock bios, also use pscheck it s work fine
     
  21. JamieT93

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    It's stable at 3.8ghz when playing or stress testing but soon as I go to restart or shutdown, anything over 3.2ghz just freezes my laptop on the little spiral loading icon. I've resorted to just downclocking on shutdown.
     
  22. RIPGreave

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    Hi All,

    Have any of you played DayZ on the system? If so can you please report on the performance. Also another game in question is Counter strike.

    Thanks
     
  23. Alklaine

    Alklaine Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, I was able to use MSI enabler on my 1AC, not a single option as far as I could tell to over clock or force a frequency, which is disappointing. However, I didn't exactly know what every bit of information options in the bios had and I didn't want to touch what I don't know.
     
  24. LisuPoland

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    That's too bad, well maybe one set of the wierdly named commands in BIOS is responsible for frequencies, but lets wait for someone more proficient than us to tweak with those things :)
     
  25. Mullrof

    Mullrof Notebook Consultant

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    gimme UEFI version of MSI Enabler RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrr....
     
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    Mullrof Notebook Consultant

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    lol

    that was simple. Thanks

    Works really good.
     
  28. raul-77

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    I'm glad he has worked well, if it gets Mullrof unlock the voltage in 1.212V over A8 ES with bios please say how to do, thanks.
     
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    @raul
    In the bios there is no option to unlock more voltage.
    Anyway I see no point to use more as far as I found they way to use more. Maybe 1.225 but really no more. Too high TDP. The higher voltage could be good only for benchmarks. In the normal gaming The limit for me officialy with GX60 is 3.7GHz at 1.212V.

    @Chrack
    first of all thats benches only. Maybe yu need not to worry abiut that. second. There are no many GX60 users that can speak with you about peformance of stand alone dGPU. Generaly the graphic performance is very good thats why noone is interested in fixing this radeon.
     
  31. raul-77

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    Yes, that's the most stable I get 3.7 mhz, if you say it is the best and most advisable not insist again thanks for your comment, Mullrof you disabled the integrated graphics? you have problems with flickering and display driver stopped working and recovered?
     
  32. Mullrof

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    well. didnt try it yet. I think I will try that today or tommorow. By the way its not disabling iGPU but forcing to use 7970m all the time. Probably there is no way to disable enduro completly. But I am not interested in using the 7970m all the time cause of fan noise. Probably there is a way to calm down it but I didnt repaste dGPU and I hope I'll not have to. As I say. Today or tommorow.
     
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    @Mullrof

    But why i have in Furmark 44FPS @ stock and with disabled ULP and set in MSI Afterburner the Clock to 950 (stock) now in Furmark 68 FPS.
    24FPS more with the same GPU Clock of 950MHZ ??????

    And in 3DMark nothing changed, same FPS as stock???

    Thats wat i don´t understand.
     
  34. Mullrof

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    you know, I dont really know what is ULP. Is that Ultra low proccesor state?

    Whatever you changed it influences on the Furmark. The thing to understand is that we dont know how the benchmarks calculate score. Anyway lets talk about that ^^ maybe I'll learn something cause I dont get it at all.
     
  35. Chrack

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    All i know is:

    On MSI GX60/70 it´s diabled the APU.
    The 8970M is now always on.

    But i notice, if i disable the ULPS and use MSI Afterburner with 950 GPU Clock,
    the GPU will get faster hot.
    So i think the 24FPS more are real!
     
  36. JamieT93

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    What temperatures are you guys running at when playing games and at idle?
     
  37. Mullrof

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    Chrack ahh I get now what you do. Ye, you've right. It should increase performance. In a furemark you see huge improvement but dont believe to it like an overal performance gain. As you could see 3dmark didnt gain anything so it means that it solve problems with 'enduro' in some apps.
     
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    You wont be able to disable the IGP since the internal and external display outputs come from it.
     
  39. Chrack

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    And why can i increase the FPS from 44 to 68 with the same GPU Clock?
     
  40. JamieT93

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    I get around a 10 fps increase in most games from forcing the GPU, it's definetly does something.
     
  41. raul-77

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    I have also seen a big improvement in fps 7970M wrong with the display driver fails sometimes.
     
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    For me, disabling ULPS fixes the GPU utilisation bug introduced in recent catalyst drivers...
    when ULPS is enabled, whenever the dGPU is used, MSI Afterburner will always report 100% utilisation...
    when ULPS is disabled, MSI Afterburner reports the actual GPU utlisation...
    Same bug was seen with people with SLI setup where they always see 100% utilisation on their second card...
     
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    thanks i tried to disable the cpu parking using parkcontroldist64 and it worked, btw what's the benefit of flashing the hitman edition?..
     
  44. Mullrof

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    well - the benefit is that you have latest actual version. There is something about lan issue. I had some problems with lan connection so I decided to flash it. Anyway I am not sure it solved that.
     
  45. Mullrof

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    so I forced the 7970m. The flickering problem stick to me too. I dont have the option that you have 'scaling GPU'. Anyway I stopped that with reducing color scheme to 16bit. When I back to 32 it doasnt appear anymore but only until I restart system. :(
     
  46. raul-77

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    The problem I fix flickering connecting an external monitor and perform the following settings: power options, change advanced power settings, power settings of ati graphics, ati powerplay settings with ac maximize battery life.
    seems to work well this way.

    [​IMG]

    Edit:I've been testing and high-performance games not work well
     
  47. shades_aus

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    Some things to try after MSI Enabler has unlocked the BIOS are
    to turn IDE mode from Legacy to Native
    DISABLE -> MAX Gen 2 CAP for boost though.
    in the SATA/IDE sections turn on SATA 6 Mode,
    100MHZ,
    Hot plugging,
    sata command completion coalescing etc.
    On my SSD Sandisk EXTREME, I have gone from 110MB/s to 215MB/s and although that's still a little slow for a SSD, it's twice the speed before the unlock! :)
     
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    Hi everyone, I'm new here in the forums and have been lurking around this thread as I have been considering the GX60 as my new mobile gaming machine. Used to have an Asus G53, but after almost 3 years it just died.

    I would just like to ask if anyone has tried playing Planetside 2 after the peformance patch Sony released around November, as many have said that it improved the performance on multiple core setups as well as AMD processors.

    So, has anyone with a GX60 here tried it out with the peformance patch? :)
     
  49. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Wow, that's sweet.
     
  50. shades_aus

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    Yes, Make sure you DISABLE -> MAX Gen 2 CAP for boost though.
    It is a substantial speed boost on drives.
    HDTUNE 5.50 shows 150MB/s MAX witout unlocked bios.
    With unlocked BIOS and Disabled MAX Gen 2 CAP I get 250MB/Sec hits
    Why it's called Gen 2 though. I thought Sata 3 was Gen 3. :-\ meh.
     
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