*The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

Wil this worj for non- solidstates aswell?

 

can I disable there sata 2 while I have sata 3?

 

It may technically work but 7200RPM HDD are not faster the SATA II speeds anyway, so you wouldn't get any speed increase.

 

Official AMD Kaveri APU Details



Courtesy guru3d.com.

Finally some benchmarks,specially compute performance shows good improvment.Looking foward to kevari version of GX60.

 

Sadly, MSi decided to once again go with A-10 5750m in their GX Destroyer model in 2014...

 

Kaveri for mobile are still months away. Probably not sooner than Q3.

Tap tap tap GT-N7000

 

and it seems like MSI discontinued GX60...GX Destroyer is a rebranded GX70...and R9 M290X has exactly the same specs as 8970m..

 

Hi guys, I just got a GX60-3BE edition after Christmas and am very new to the world of PC gaming- I just got rid of all the bloatware and installed the AMD Catalyst 12.13 drivers. I have been reading about the pending release of mantle, but other than that I have no clue on what 'overclocking' is or what drivers do (sorry for my incompetence). Can you guys advise on any other updates I should download in order to play games at maximum potential? Can you redirect me or help me out with what I can do?

 

Indeed, R9 M290X is the same GPU as 8970M but with BIOS and VGA driver update.

 

@Manchesto
Mobile

Don't overclock anything.

@Kevin
How do you think. Can we update bios at our 7970m to R9 with downclocked spec?

 

Can't, since R9 BIOS is a rename of 8970M, therefore it is incompatible with 7970M.

 

But if we upgrade purs to the 8970 m and then to R9?

 

Hi I hope you can help me. I upgraded my windows to 8.1 now all of a sudden the apu performe much worst then on 8. Forinstance, my 3d mark score went down from 5300 to 4700 with the apu taking the hit. My dgpuscore stay the same on 7100 but not the apu score it went down a lot. Any idea what iscausing this?

 

Yes, that will work fine.

Did you update the BIOS and EC to the latest version?
How about AMD mobility driver v13.12?
Mobile

 

If anyone has the unlocked BIOS for GX60 BE edition, here is the BIOS settings I changed for HDD boost on SSD which has doubled my disk performance.

Menu
Advanced
- South Bridge
> SB SATA Configuartion
- OnChip IDE mode = (Change to Native Mode)
Advanced
- South Bridge
> SB Debug Configuration
- SATA MAXGEN2 CAP OPTION = ( Change to DISABLED)
- SATA CLK MODE OPTION = (Change to 100MHZ or higher if available.)
Save and Reset

 

Es? 13.12 is a no go. The problem is with the cpu not dgpu.

 

Why is 13.12 a no go?

 

Is it normal that the 8970m runs only with PCIe 2.0 x8 ?

 

When I tested the 13.12 driver my dgpu performance droped from 7100 on 3dmark 11 to 6700. I reverted back to 13.11.

 

Definitely playable (30 FPS+) on high settings with shadows etc. set to low, even in crowded areas.

When I first got the laptop it was horrible but the patches seem to have helped massively.

 

Do you think it is worth it to upgrade to the 5750m from the 4600m?

From what I've seen it performs better in some games but worse in others compared to the 4600m which is odd. Was it a driver issue? Has it been fixed or is that just the case?

Thanks

 

there is no way that 5750m perform worse. Thats OCed 4600m. If you have some moeny to throw away then its worth to upgrade

 

The difference will be just 10%, not worth the cash if you ask me, unless you can get A-10 5750m super cheap for like 75$, then buy it and sell your A-10 4600m for 40-50$

 

The only time 5750M might ever do worse is if CPU isn't the bottleneck in the first place. Even without locking it, it sits at 3.2GHz in most games, compared to 2.7GHz and often less in 4600M. 5750M turbo is better in general, and the chip never throttles unless you overclock an ES. I'd recommend buying one and then selling your 4600M online.

SC2 is as CPU bound as it gets, and the performance with the 5750M is much better

 

Hi guys

i come back with this pb!!!
have you an idea?

 

It shouldn't be.
Have you try updating BIOS, EC, and VGA drivers?

 

I tried crysis 3 and works great with the 7970M graphics with loads of 99% in most of scene

I would not say that, making some adjustments to the GX hardware and software we can reduce bottleneck, watch this video with gpu load of more than 90% in some scenes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awSGo3okA2Q

 

Like I said - on totally open areas the game will lag due to CPU bottleneck, the area in the video is pretty narrow and not fully open to the landscape.

[EDIT]

At the last 10-15 sec of the video you can see that the cutscene moves to an open area like I said and utilization of the GPU starts to drop to 70%, then the video ends, but I assure you... it could have dropped later to as low as 45-50%.

 

Yes,
there all up to date

Some one the same problem?

 

I'm just saying that playing alone with dedicated graphics is a decrease of the bottleneck, not quite full but leave other video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eug1UD1ZrRk&feature=youtu.be

 

How did you keep your GPU temperature cool? 70-ish degrees at 90-ish% utilisation is pretty cool...

 

Hi, the video is two minutes that the temperature does not rise much, to give you an example if I play an hour I can reach a maximum temperature of 82 º -84 º

 

raul, did you repaste GPU?
While I was playing at fixed GPU load at bios I got 88 degree with bf4 after one hour.

 

You can use 0.5mm pads too if you like.

 

Im already enjoying my brand new PS4 while my GX60 3AE is collecting dust hahahaah

 

Hey guys, I'm playing BF4 on the 1AC edition without any locking/OCing and am trying to play multiplayer more smoothly. There are often times on the map where things get choppy, especially after levolution events have taken place and there's rubble all around.
I'm also running the game on the lowest graphical settings possible and this problem still persists. I'd really appreciate it if someone could advise me on how to improve my multiplayer, thanks.

 

no, not done repaste I playing battlefield 4 gave me a maximum of 85 ° is the highest temperature I've seen in my GX60

 

no one the same problem?

 

check your 3dmark11 GPU scoore if it is ~6500 or above and if its true then thats only an error in displaying in GPU-Z
I cant check it cause my GPU-Z crushes but I think thats not possible

 

The latest GPU-Z has fixed Optimus and CUDA detection - should work now.

 

@Mullrof
What settings in 3DMark11 ?


@zipperi
GPU-Z v0.7.5 is the last Version

 

Yes, and it doesn't crash anymore with 332.21 Nvidia drivers.

 

Nvidia drivers for the GX60 with AMD hardware?
I don´t understand you

 

Normal yes

 

@Chrack
normal free version of 3dm11
so you should look at P scoore.

@zipperi
well thats funny. is nvidia drivers really resolve probles with Radeon? XD

 

Ok here my 3DMark11 Score in Performance Mode:

Stock GX60 with A10-5750M and 8970m
P5135


now with OC the CPU to 3,2GHz lock with BAR-Edit
P5298


and now with OC CPU and 8970m to 1028Mhz GPU Clock.
P5597



Here 3DMark13 all stock.


and here OC CPU settings as above.
OC the GPU have no effect in 3DMark13, strange



And BTW
All Programs show only PCIe 2.0 x8 with 5Gbit/s.
I think MSI limit it.
Perhaps with unlocked Bios there can be changed in PCI Settings like this??



****** Edit******
I repaste the GPU and CPU.
MSI use too much Paste!

I use Gelid Solutions GC-Extreme and my GPU Temp drop from 85c to 80c in Furmark.
CPU drop from 58c to 54c in Furmark,

 

German Answer:
Nutze mal bitte GPU-Z zum auslesen des Interfaces. PCI-E 2.0 x 8 kann ich mir schlecht vorstellen.
Sollte es PCI-E 3.0 x8 sein ist alles in Ordnung, da die Bandbreite dann ungefähr die selbe ist (siehe WIkipedia Tabelle PCI Express )

English Version
Try out GPU-Z to find our which interface it is using. I can hardly imagine that PCI-E 2.0 x 8 is used in a MSI Gaming Laptop.
If it was PCI E 3.0 x 8 it is fine, because PCI E 2.0 x16 should be only a little bit faster. ( PCI Express )

 

I use GPU-Z and it shows the same as other tools

 

Can someone please help with my problem

 

I suppose that the performance problems are caused by the slow APU (CPU Part).
THe only way the problem can be improved is using Win 8 (as far as i heard it offers much more performance in bf4) or AMD Mantle, which is about to come