*The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

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Oh, just noticed, there is a screw under the warranty sticker. Why???

That just makes me void the warranty if I change RAM or put my SSD in.

FFFUUU.

Isn't RAM and HDD user serviceable component?

Going to talk to MSI.

Thanks Meaker.

 

you can ignore that sticker, you can do whatever upgrade you want by yourself now. As long as you don't cause any physical damage to the machine, your warranty won't be voided

 

Removing the sticker doesn't void the warranty. Heck, mine didn't even come with one

 

Thanks for the tip. Anyway, I am still going to check with MSI Australia. Who knows what strange condition they will impose on Australian users. Anyway, just going to put it back and wait for them for an answer.

Hopefully get the warranty sorted, make an image to transfer the OS to the SSD and boot up the laptop by the end of this week.

 

Good thing I haven't touch the warranty sticker. I think my unit is DOA. Battery LED is not on when charging, also BSOD straight away on first boot.

 

The screw under the sticker may be the one that needs to be removed in order to take out the optical drive.

If you're worried about breaking the warrant seal then just gently peel it off starting in one corner with a box cutter to replace later if need be.

 

Just organised DOA return

Won't get it back until next Monday (earliest).

 

Anyone here plays CS:GO on the gx60 ? Cause i cant have decent stable fps in this game .. it also depends on maps. WoW is also not that good fps(30 to 55) but i guess thats cpu limited . Any1 can share some thoughts about those games ?

 

In CS:GO your goal should be stable 64+ FPS on servers with TR64 or 128+ FPS on servers with TR128.
I guess that due to Source Engine does like strong single core performance that Intel CPU deliveres you should adjust your cfg to meet at least 64FPS stable. Netcode for all Source based games sends packets for every rendered frame. It means that if you have FPS below servers TickRate some part of information about yours position, damage, hits etc. will be missing.

I can check how it will run as I play CS:GO on my desktop (my brother owns GX60). Stay tuned later in the evening for some results.

 

I played CS:GO on my phenom x955 @3.8GHz +5870 desktop with 150 fps+ . The 7970M is some what faster than the 5870 and the a10 is slower but i didnt expected such an impact though .
I wait for ur results . Tnx in advance :hi2:

 

I wonder how GX60 will perfrorm once AMD releases 12.11 WHQL drivers.

They are supposed to fix the underutilization issues 7970m has, so to some extent, I believe that not always A-10 is the issue, but the drivers.
If something lies in software, then it can be fixed.

 

The beta version works great. I hope msi brings an unlocked bios version for this laptop to give the A10 some more juice.

 

Yea, beta works well spite being just beta.

AMD stated however, that no DX9 fixes have been implemented in the beta drivers so far, only some DX10 and DX11 fixes are introduced so far.

As for A-10, how much more juice you think OC of the CPU would give us?
Would it be possible to force 2,7 ghz on all 4 cores without risk of frying the A-10?

 

I would rather see 3.2GHz forced on 1 core because mostly games only use 1 core (dunno if there allready multicore optimized games ? ) . It says in speccs that the gx60 can go to 3.2GHz with turbo but i didnt saw that yet only the 2.7GHz is which you also states

 

Only older games use 1 core, modern games, well at least the ones released in 2009 and onward, utilize at least 2 cores, and 4 core games become more and more common today.

 

CS: GO tested. Setting all Maxed except AA, Blur and FXAA.

You can safely play on public TR64 servers with fps never drops below 60FPS. No hiccup, mause lag etc. Boom HS
I assume on ESL games 5vs5 you can play with TR128.

I am perfectly satisfied with GX60 performance in this particular game.

 

As far as I can tell the chipset clock source is locked to a single speed and the CPUs are locked. It would take an unlocked CPU and an overclocking program to be able to change the speed.

 

Hey Meaker, I hope you're not bothered with the same question again, but do you know, if the third generation of APU's will use the same socket as the one in GX60?

I wonder how much boost would one get, if swap of A-10 to the most powerful CPU of third generation was done.
HD 7970m in GX60 could use any additional CPU power it can get.
And what about BIOS? would GX60 recognize newer-gen APU CPU? or some serious software changes would need to be done?

 

I remember you guys been saying most of the time the CPU is only locked at a 2.7ghz. what would be the reason that is not allowing us to get the 3.2ghz as advertised...

On a second thought... I remember the turbo boost system for AMD is based on temperature.. could it be that because it is not hot enough..? sounds silly tho

 

Those studies are filled with trash. They are probably based on the integrated graphics card. I have been playing Far Cry 3 with Eyefinity for a few hours and it runs quite smoothly. I stopped using the eyefinity mainly because of the HUD issues, there is supposed to be a patch coming our way, we'll see. Apart from that, I played with Ultra settings, except for V-Sync and Antialiasing off. Good and smooth framerates, even with Eyefinity. I can notice a small improvement in framerates when using just a single screen. I don't use fraps or any other program, as that would eat away Fps, but I can tell it's perfectly playable. Definitely 25+ with Eyefinity, maybe 30+ without. I am no expert and these number may be WAY off, as I don't have anything to compare it to. I'd say it plays as nicely as it would on the Xbox optimized version. You only get a few slowdowns when saving or loading something, but that comes to be expected with such a small processor. Just better graphics.

Also, I alway close all running programs before starting any game. We can agree that the A10 is pretty weak compared to the i7's, so no multitasking. Reboot the PC or open the task manager and kill every non essential app before starting a game. I've noticed that works wonders. I get an average CPU load of 80-90% with Core Temp 1.0 RC4 and a GPU usage of around 70% with MSI afterburner when running with a single 1080 display. Overall, great computer. It might not be "Future proof" But say, I was between this and a Sager with a 680M and a nicer i7 from Gentech PC. I decided for this one, which was around 1000 dollars cheaper. I'll save those and maybe get a better laptop next year or in 18 months. For the time being, I am extremely happy with my purchase.

 

thank you for your inputs, this should be a pretty helpful info for future buyers. Honestly that review they did on notebook check...I almost think they're being extremely basis.... they said almost nothing but the negatives of the GX60...

 

3.2ghz is only available if two cores are idle, 2.7ghz is the max speed for all 4 modules being loaded.

 

Strange , i tried csgo yesterday at 1024 reso which gives 150 fps+ when i tried to go to higher reso's the fps went really down. @1080p it is dipping like crazy, i wonder if my 7970M is kicking in even if the led shines red(which should indicate its on). More investigation needed i guess

 

ah..thanks for clearing it up for me

 

Only AMD knows what it will be releasing next year, and they are pretty tight lipped about it. The intended update would not have been socket compatable going to FS2, but there are plenty of rumors that its been delayed to late 2013. Whether those rumors are true or not is anyones guess. I'm sure system designers are not happy about changing sockets, but thats not necessarily odd in the notebook arena. So AMD might release something as a refresh for all of the recent FS1r2 socket Trinity notebooks. The FS2 socket for Steamroller based Kaveri APUs may be necessary for the newer GCN GPU architecture, or maybe they will just make it FS1r2 compatable as well.

 

Even a 45W 3ghz 4 module turbo 3.4ghz 2 module turbo part would help a lot especially with 1866mhz memory support.

 

It is so obvious since Trinity's introduction, a 45W part is missing. I was confident by the end of this year an enhanced version is coming, hopefully with 1866MHz Memory support and higher CPU/GPU clocks. I do not even understand why still missing, all 14-15" laptop could easily handle that little extra heat, especially the monstrous MSI GX60.

 

Its even an option in the unlocked bios, the cpu just goes a bit odd if you try.

 

Well, I have been testing it a bit more. I was indeed able to reproduce the 6 FPS. You have to be on Ultra Settings, Antialiasing to the MAX, MAX draw distances, Vsync on MAX and GPU buffer on MAX as well. Oh, and with FRAPS running. I guess that is a fair benchmark, but it barely speaks for the playability of the game on the Laptop.

Laptops are all about compromise. The GX60 can run Far Cry 3 at very acceptable and playable settings. Ultra Quality with low draw distances and V-sync and Antialiasing off will get you an average of 30 FPS, hitting lows of 20 perhaps when loading new scenery or when many NPCs are present. But, then again. Please point out what other laptops can run at those levels at this price-point. I did notice that Fraps alone without video recording eats away some 3-6 FPS, also running Core Temperatures and MSI afterburner eat another 3-5 FPS. The A10 is barely enough to run this game. Try running something at the same time and you will see an impact. My advice is playing without anything else running, and move the settings a bit so you get optimal performance, also try to keep the temperatures as low as possible. The laptop is very enjoyable doing this. If you need raw power and top FPS, then go ahead and spend 500-1000 more on a Sager or MSI with an i7. But I would wait until around summer when the new intel generation and video cards wither from AMD or Nvidia are out.

 

Honestly I like the A surface of the GT series.... with the brush aluminum look...

anyone ever tried DIY changing A side of the laptop? hehe...

 

I have been thinking about fitting mine with 3M carbon fiber. The glossy finish is something I have always disliked on laptops. Too bad they made it too hard by adding those ridges. But I'm sure it is entirely possible. It might looks silly, but if you're hauling your GX60 with you everywhere, it adds a bit of protection, also no smudges or scratches. Apart from that, the overall build of the lid seems kind of flimsy around the edges, but just OK I guess. Carbon fiber wrap would add a good grip and some durability to it. It would look great if you use black wrap and are good with the MSI logo on the back.

 

what I have in mind is completely swap out the cover, like change it to the GT model's cover, that is if I can source one some how

 

got to say iv just bought my gx60 and so far im not impressed, its noisier on idle just browsing the web than my monstrous 4 year old clevo D901c. Also when you rest your hand to use the touchpad the pressure transfers through the chassis and causes extra noise from eiher one of the fans or the hd

anyone else have similar findings?

 

If you install the latest enduro beta it should let the gfx card shut down quicker and make it silent at idle.

 

@ h00vertime
I have noticed the same.

The worst thing about cooling in GX60 is that it FAN does not work with minimal but constant speed. Instead of that we experience FAN start/stops in short period of time which is very annoying.
I have forwarded that issue to MSI. Hope they can program already existing FAN Button to work in for eg. three modes (silent-medium-high perf).

 

enduro beta that sounds interesting. you couldnt provide me with the exact link to this could you? just so i dont install the wrong thing and derp everything up

by the way does anyone know how to get in to the touchpad settings? im fed up of everytime i touch the touchpad it clicks on something and drags it over the screen

 

So I bought the GX60 from Gentech with a 120 gig SSD on Black Friday. My confirmation number doesn't even work on the website. When I ordered it it said it was on "limited availability," then I called them and they said they were on backorder after I already paypaled the money. Then I called them again 2 weeks later and now they say theres a 3 week delay from MSI and they have not even shipped from China. I have called MSI the phone just rings and rings. I emailed MSI yesterday and still no response. I'm so pissed at GenTech for not even telling me its on backorder that I'm considering cancelling my order and going with Xotic. Suggestions?

 

don't bother, EVERYONE is on back order, there's no supply on msi end, but as far as i know, MSI themselve should be getting some stock late next week. don't worry i have been waiting for mine for weeks already..

 

If you need a GX60 hop on a plane and come to Seoul.

There's presently about 94 in stock.

They're sold without an OS installed.

2 models
one with only a 500GB HDD and another with 2 128GB SSDs in R0.

:hi2:

 

Same, I ordered mine from Gentech the 7th (free mouse free cooling upgrade and free shipping, yes sir!). I'm fine with waiting, newegg doesn't have it, amazon doesn't have it (they did when I ordered it though :/ ), xotic doesn't have it. I'll stick with all my freebies from Gentech.


If anything (if you ABSOLUTELY NEED a gaming machine right now), I would cancel it and order another laptop from Gentech. But just beware, for a laptop with the same gaming prowess, you're looking at $300+ more than the GX60. For me, it's worth the wait.

 

And as an update, Ken just replied to my email (on a friday night 9:30PM EST no less) letting me know that they are expected to be in on the 20th. Sucks that it'll be next year before I see my new laptop but there isn't much they can do about it, it's MSI being backstocked, which I am assuming is from AMD being backstocked, which I assume is due to the low yield on their new chips.

Still worth the wait to me

 

AMD's Radeon HD 7970M: Ivy Bridge vs. Trinity Video

 

Yeah, I was on that Backorder list with Ken as well, but I managed to snag one of the last ones on Amazon from Antonline. It really is an amazing laptop, but I've had some buyer's remorse, which comes to be expected. Maybe I should have put down some 900 more towards one of the nicer Clevos... I was trying to run Red Orchestra 2 on the Steam free weekend, and the AMD CPU will just not run it. I know that game is terribily optimized, I'm guessing it barely runs on a much more powerful desktop CPU. The video card is enough, but not the CPU. I get wild numbers like 100% CPU usage and only like 18% GPU usage. Not that I really care about that game, but I wonder how an i7-680m would run that. Apart from that, I can run almost any other game on very smooth and playable FPS with a little fiddling on the settings.

Also, as a side note. I updated the Synaptics touchpad drivers from the MSI website, and they added tap with two fingers to left click and pinch to zoom, but oddly enough I couldn't get it to do any form of scrolling. Before I would go on the right and be able to scroll, now.. nothing. It seems that feature has been removed.

 

Looks great but i would rather have a better cpu with the gx60 and i would not hesitate when there is a upgrade available to pick it up

 

Same here, AMD's massive advantage here is price. Mine is coming fully loaded, and when it gets here has a Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB SSD and 16GB DDR3-1600 going in it. The processor is definitely going to be the weak link however given that I'm only spending about $1500 on it, I'm happy with what I am getting with the price. You just cant get that kind of kit from intel/nvidia for that price.

 

Wait till 3rd Gen APU's come out and it turns out they use the same socket as A-10 4600m.

Swap A-10 4600m in GX60 for a newer CPU with more juice - the 7970m smiles

 

That's what I'm hoping for, but even if they don't I'm fine with the A10. My buddy has a laptop with an A4 in it, and that thing thumps along just fine. My Thinkpad with a C2D T7700 and FireGL V5250 thumps along happily with Mass Effect 3, EVE Online, and Left 4 Dead 2. The only settings I have to lower are due to it being a Radeon X1700 with 256MB video RAM and 2GB DDR2 system RAM (FireGL V5250 with modded Catalyst drivers uses it as the X1700 chip that it is). The A10 is still a beefy powerhouse, by comparison to a thousand dollar i7? Sure, yeah it's puny, but it's also an eighth the cost.

$1500 for a laptop with a screaming 240GB SSD + 500GB HDD, Radeon 7970M, Killer doubleshot (Killer WiFi/Bluetooth 4.0 and LAN), 15 inch 1920x1080 screen, blu ray player, 16GB DDR3-1600, and a quad core that's still got plenty of punch? That's a phenomenal deal you aren't going to get with an i7, it just won't happen - especially considering a midrange i7 and 7970M in a basic laptop with no SSD starts at that price, and don't even dream of a 680M at that price

 

I'm also SO GLAD I picked GX60 over Lenovo Y580.
And there was a moment when I almost bought Y580 (sole thought of that risk gives me chills over the spine ), before I discovered GX60.

The sole case and screen quality between these two laptops just can't compare.

GX60, except for the CPU witch is just fine, has everything from very good to top notch quality.

I might insert an SSD drive into my GX60 once day, once such devices become more efficient and cheaper.