The Official 1722/GX720 Lounge

I wouldn't want the alienware, the msi notebooks are so lightweight in comparison and that matters a lot to me.

 

Yeah I know but I just leave mine sitting on my desk all the time so it being not portable dont matter, I need the power and preformance. Plus I just love the new design, its so awesome. Dont get me wrong my GT725 is great but I want the best of the best and I never owned an alienware and the new design is a must have for me.

 

Sounds like you want a desktop

 

Well 5 grand gets you best of the best, so does the asus w90 at 2 grand

Id have the w90 over aw anyday hehe.

But for now, this is running like gtx 280 sli at full hd res

Which means my machine compares to the best of the best

So no qx9300, who cares

 

Yeah the W90 is nice but I just dont like the design. The AW will cost me $2,624.00 with SLi GTX 280m's, 4Gbs Ram, 500GB HD, 1920 x 1200 Res, and a P8600.. I'd put my Q9100 in the AW and put the P9500 back in the GT725, all is good..

Thats pretty cheap for the newest GPU's out..

 

So is it true that quad's can't use the turbo button? My t9900 is completely stable with 20% OC @ 3.67

 

It can use the turbo button, but the OC is maxed at ~2628 no matter the BIOS settings.

 

Correct, i tested the Q9000 in the bare bone version MS-1722 and adjusted the cover to get the OC function up and running. (all other stuff is tested to BIOS & EC Firmware)
No it doesn't make a difference what you try it will not get past 26xx, but OC is working and the notebook is running fine.

 

So it would be pointless to get the qx300 when you can get the cheaper ones and OC them to 2.6ghz....

 

The advantage of the QX9300 is you can run the memory 1:1 (FSB set to 800) and hit 2628 and hit an FSB of ~415 and you get the 12mb cache vs. 6mb and maintain 5-5-5-15 timings (at least you do with G.Skill with the OC).

I'm not sure about the Q9000, but 2ghz -> 2.628ghz = ~31% OC, so you will have to drop down to 667 and even then your FSB will hit 876 which may force a 3:2. If the Turbo function tops out at 24% via BIOS, then you are looking at a max OC of 2.48ghz.

What is the max OC a Q9000 can achieve in the 1722 via Turbo/BIOS function?
What are the memory timings?

 

anybody know where i can get an mxm card better than a 240m GT for the ID2?

 

lol, I would be happy with a 240m gt, but good luck finding even that!

Does anyone know of a fan-controlling program??? I would really love one

 

I dont think any exist darth, its a matter of temps which is a shame.

 

BTW, does anyone else notice their battery will not charge unless it gets to a certain %? For example, mine is at 98% but will not charge.

And this guy says his will not charge unless it is at 95%. Link

I don't really care if this is the case, but I would like to know for sure...

Does anyone have links to EC v4.27? This was the version that came with my laptop and I think i may try going back to it to see if that fixes any fan problem...

 

Darth, you can grab older EC firmwares from http://www.bto.eu/
I'm not sure how they distinguish between MS-1722 ID1 and ID2, but I think they have both on file. I had the same fan issue as you on EC 4.29, had to downgrade to 4.22 or 4.17 (can't remember which, my laptop is currently dead).

 

Firmware version distinguish by controlling the buttons like explained in the start of this topic.
ID2 is using touch sensitive panel.
ID1 is using 4 buttons on left side, no OC and no Turbo.
Wrong firmware version will disable P1 button and Camera button.

 

would a 260m gtx work in the gx720?

 

Possible with a heat sink mod, but we will never know unless we get a try out

 

does anyone have an actual change list for the different EC's?

I doubt anybody will be able to tell me, but are these for ID2?
http://download.bto.eu/Notebooks/17M27 (MS-1722)/Firmware/Old

 

strange that you guys are having issues with the ec firmware, i guess its possible but i didnt think that it would cause too much of an issue, as for the disabling of buttons, i noticed my p1 is disabled, im currently running 4.29 with no issues besides that, and 1.0s.
What exactly is the ec and why the hell does it have its own firmware? this is the first time ive seen a second item to flash in a laptop, im guessing it some sort or secondary bios? like a southbridge for bioses, with special purpose? oh and btw my webcam works too even though i have this version, it sounds like an isolated incident, id say try reflashing, its possible it was just a bad flash... maybe get a different source?

Darth i will say that theres no controlling program at all man, as for your fan speed issue i dont expect to hear this fan sounding like a hairdryer anytime soon, its got a much much larger blower than most other laptops so as a result it has lower rpms while giving increased airflow, its like the 120mm of the desktop world.

As for that ailenware, i can build you a nice 720 or 725 and attach a cinder block or two if you want that weighty feel of the ailenwares. maybe spray paint the cinder blocks green or something, give it an ailen feel. will that suffice? oh and i have to replace the battery with 2 AAA's to simulate ailenware battery life performance for a laptop of that calibur.

 

Haha, i would like a backlit keyboard though, i wonder if i can get some really thin strip LEDs and just run them under all the keys on the black backboard.

 

I just want to know why my fan doesn't speed up when it's hot. I love that its very, very quiet, but I would be happy to give that up for some better temperatures under load. What are the thermal limits of the 9600m? The highest i've seen mine is 84.

For my t9900, without OC, it goes to 59-63 under load. At a OC of 3.67, it goes up to 72. With or without the OC, the fan never seems to care and just keeps quiet

 

Well maybe your fan is kicking in? I would try a prime95 stress test, and try cook your northbridge a bit, then see if the heavy stage for the fan kicks in. I know mine does hehe.

 

I notice that electrosoft was using an OEM qx9300, do you think the gx720 would have issues with an ES one?

 

ill let you know tomorrow. I have a q9100 es, and i get my barebones tomorrow. Processor looks to be in great condition.

 

The only way you might have issues with an ES is if it isn't a final engineering sample and has problems with the temp sensors or just general abuse / bad chip which I never see with ES chips. Accept ES chips get the snot pounded out of them, but I'm usually ok with that in certain situations.

 

let me know how things go technos! I am thinking of selling the t9900 (which i think will sell since it's the best dual-core) and getting a qx9300....

 

I have an ES Q9100 and it works great, before I got my GT725 I had it in my 1722 ID2 without any problems..

 

sounds good. i have the QDRS q9100 ES. Looking to upgrade the graphics card though.

 

good luck with that. i almost got a 3870 form ebay, but the guy wanted at least $300 for it....

then there are a lot of "quadro" cards that are better then the 9600m gt, but they are all from hp laptops, which are known not to work in non-hp laptops.

Everything else on ebay is a dell video card that are old and also incompatible.

Then when you do find a card, you have to worry about modding the heatsink

but to be honest, the 9600m gt is a damn good card

 

Reset your EC and see if your fan acts differently. Pull the battery and power cable and let it set for a minute or two. Fire it up and stress it and see what your temps do.

 

Already did that, i left the notebook unplugged and without a battery all night. Oh well, at least I can be happy to know its very, very quiet

 

I had a couple of these earlier in the year, nice notebooks. Every now and again the fan wouldn't spin up like normal and the GPU would get a little warm like yours but a quick EC reset would fix it and all was normal again.

 

No doubt these are not for the ID2 version only for the ID1 version.
Its the same for the BIOS files only for the ID1 version.
www.bto.eu is a notebook building company which start on the bare bone / whitebox version which are different then the retail/OEM version.
The ID1 is not delivered with the touch sensitive panel, this model is using 4 buttons on the left side: power, WLAN/BT, P1 and Camera.
If the Camera isn't' working or the P1 is acting different then almost 100% sure you are using the wrong EC firmware file.
EC Firmware file is for the keyboard to be programmed, FAN heat detection button behavior and small details like camera, wlan and bt actions.

I Hope this will clear it up a little.

 

Thanks. I will just forget about getting a different EC version.

electrosoft, was the heatsink 100% incompatible with the 8800m? Did at least one screw fit? Because if the heatsink cannot be easily modded to fit a mxm-III, I will just forget about upgrading the video card.

 

Hi guys got my laptop today! installed my CPU, and bios reports it as a Core 2 Extreme! Whats going on here? Also, everything is cool, and fan is not very active, but it does go on and off at times.

 

That doesn't surprise me at all.

Anyways, if you do any gaming, please tell us what temps you get.

 

cant. computer went up in smoke when i installed my wireless card. very pissed right now.

 

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Wow, never had that happen to me before. I can't imagine how pissed off I would be.

 

The heatsink from the 1722 will not even come close to fitting a 8800m GTX card.

 

I don't care if it "fits", I just want to know if at least ONE screw will fit in place. I have some ideas....

 

100% incompatible. I modified a thermaltake cooler to handle temporary cooling to see if it booted up but the back couldn't be put back on while testing.

 

any sane ideas for making a heatsink? I know that the other msi models have heatsinks that will fit mxm-III cards (the ones with 9800m gs).

 

I don't know what to do. Should I contact MSI for an RMA? It burnt my wireless card and my motherboard, and im ultra pissed. I hope it didn't bust my graphics card or processor. Funny thing is, no power supply or battery was in it. Would MSI repair this for free?

 

Did you buy the barebones 1722 off of eBay? If so there will not be a warranty, its doubtful.. Let me know..

 

i did buy it off ebay. But msi has a 2 year warranty. I want to know if it will work.

 

How on earth does something burn with no power?

http://www.msicomputer.com/support/sup_NBService.asp

 

i have no idea. Quite frankly, after this experience, i will stay away from MSI, if it doesn't get repaired or get my money back. I really would like to get it repaired, as I have spent all my years savings on it.

 

Well If it was bought as a barebones off of ebay then no there is not a warranty.. Also 95% of the barebones being sold on ebay are all stolen and MSI will not fix them. I know this because I own a 1722 ID2.

 

So even if i do pay money MSI won't fix them? And how did they get stolen? I was not aware of this.