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    The Official 1722/GX720 Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by electrosoft, Jan 17, 2009.

  1. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    If the ODD responds, reinstall the OS.

    There are occasionally apps that can cut this link off (had this with my sony vaio.)

    Roxio studio was one culprit, there were quite alot and microsoft released hot fixes, but i'd recommend the reinstall if possibe.
     
  2. Genna

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    It sounds strage to me to hear that if BIOS doen't recognize the ODD is possible to start any instalation afterward from the same device, but ... miracles happens ...
    Impationed to see the result ...
     
  3. catacylsm

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    Also what about power profiling, can that have effect on the ODD? (Like ACPI/ACHI) i dont know which of the two, i just know i can change modes like that etc.
     
  4. Ahzroe

    Ahzroe Notebook Guru

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    Sorry I wasn't clear. Initially, I put the OS in the ODD for an ODD install. Nothing happened, so I went into the BIOS to ensure the ODD was detected. So... the guide I need is to install a OS via a USB drive. I have found one for Windows 7, so I will try it Thursday night.
     
  5. Ahzroe

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    I enabled and disabled ACHI, neither detected the ODD.
     
  6. Rorschach

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  7. Automatikjack

    Automatikjack Notebook Evangelist

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    I love flash drive installs, they acutally shave quite a bit of time off a normal w7 install, compared to dvd installs, to the point where i want to get rid of all my cd installers and put em all on hard drives or flash drives.
     
  8. Ahzroe

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    I followed directions with this guide http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-bootable-windows-7-usb-to-install-windows-7-from-usb-flash-drive-using-windows-7-dvdusb-tool/

    I put the OS on a USB drive, installed the USB drive to the USB port on the right side of the 1722. Entered the BIOS, I changed the the USB to boot first, saved and exited. Upon boot, the cursor is just a fast pulse. No option to load, nothing happening.

    Frustrated!
     
  9. Automatikjack

    Automatikjack Notebook Evangelist

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    make sure you have ahci enabled for window 7, im pretty sure it needs it to work properly, although its starting to sound like your bus is tripping balls, try going into your bios and resetting to default or failsafe settings, then try to reinstall again, its obviously hanging on something...

    did you add any components recently? or rather did you add any of the components to the machine? try removing the wireless card for example or one of the sticks of ram,

    another thing you can try like i suggested before is try to load a linux distro from a flash drive and try that, if that works then your bus is at least partially working enough so you can communicate with the other hardware.


    linux is also pretty crafty when it comes to talking with your odd and hdd for example. heres your quickest and fastest solution, Damn Small Linux its quick to download and should be relatively easy to throw on a pendrive, its got a gui and is great for playing with stuff to see if it works. you can literally run it on pretty much anything now. that should at least be able to confirm that your machine is in some state of working order.
     
  10. Ahzroe

    Ahzroe Notebook Guru

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    I went with the DSL and was able to boot the 1722. The problem is I don't have a clue about DSL and I was lost. I was hoping to load Windows 7 from the DSL boot, but couldn't figure it out. Now I am back to trying a Windows 7 USB boot.
     
  11. Automatikjack

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    theres a guide at the bottom of the page for loading it from a flash drive.
     
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  13. Ahzroe

    Ahzroe Notebook Guru

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    I figured out my Windows 7 boot. I initially attempted using the USB boot tool, no luck, just a fast flashing cursor. After I loaded DSL and had a good boot, I did a manual USB boot with Windows 7 and she got up and running. The ODD is still not recognized with Windows 7, so I might have a bad ODD. My wireless card is also giving me fits. I turned on wireless on the 1722 and the card is not being recognized. I am using an Intel WiFi Link 5300 card that I know have versions which will not work on the 1722.

    At least I am moving forward!!
     
  14. Boomer520

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    you probably got a branded 5300 that only work in IBM/HP machines.
     
  15. Automatikjack

    Automatikjack Notebook Evangelist

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    The main thing that I wanted you to do with dsl was to play with the odd once you got it up and booted, for example throw a cd into the drive, an audio cd for example and play it just to see if the drive is capable of doing something basic. Or even just look for it in the system information to confirm that it has some sort of contact or interaction with an OS, there isn't going to be a way for you to install W7 from linux, however...

    Guys I think I just figured out what the deal is with that drive, it's gotta be a bad firmware flash, idk if anyone here has ever flashed ther DVD burners, but I remember Doing that when they first came out and there was issue with burning different types of disks.

    What you're gonna need to do my man is google your manufacturer and model number and see if you can get ahold of a firmware for your DVD drive and a flashing utility, hopefully there's a Linux version so you can use dsl to do it, or if you can install w7 you can do it from there.

    Unfortunately the process can't be done from a dos environment or at least Ive never seen it done that way. Eithery way good luck, I'll do a little research when I get off work for you.

    I remember having similar behavior from a bad flash to one of my DVD drives, acting like a zombie and all.
     
  16. Vulnavia

    Vulnavia Notebook Consultant

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    Firmware can be found here: AD-7590S
     
  17. Automatikjack

    Automatikjack Notebook Evangelist

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    sweet, thanks for grabbing the linkage for him, at least we have a viable backup plan now... Although the bold on the page saying it doesnt work with oem vendor equipment isn't so encouraging...

    anyone have a contact address at msi, or anyway to get a firmware from msi? otherwise someones gonna have to call and battle the automated phone system in order to get an answer.
     
  18. Dead2th3world

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    Dell allows firmware update in DOS ;)
     
  19. flowdesigner

    flowdesigner Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey,


    Anyone knows if I can buy a battery with extended life? Now my laptop lasts 2hours or something, I think I would need huge battery.
    Cheers
     
  20. Dead2th3world

    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    Dude the battery is already huge as it is :D use the ECO Button. that should add some extra Hrs to it.
     
  21. Ahzroe

    Ahzroe Notebook Guru

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    First off, thanks everyone for your continued support.

    Automatikjack,

    I attempted this as soon as I had w7 up and running. The untility could not detect a drive and I could go no further. I am hoping I have a bad drive.

    Under Device Manager in W7, there is an unknown device properties, "Unknown Device" location on Intel(R) ICH9M LPC Interface Controller 2919. I thought I downloaded and installed all necessary drivers from MSI. Did I miss one or is this something else?
     
  22. Vulnavia

    Vulnavia Notebook Consultant

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    Go to Intel's website and run the auto scanner: http://www.intel.com/support/detect.htm?iid=dc_spotlight_home1

    It should find the missing drivers for you.

    EDIT: Just ran it on mine and found out the driver for my wifi 5100 was out of date.
     
  23. Ahzroe

    Ahzroe Notebook Guru

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    I ran it last night. Graphics Driver (unknown or unsupported); Audio Driver (unknown or unsupported); Wireless Networking (driver current); and Wired Networking (unknown or unsupported).

    I previsouly updated the video and sound drivers. Maybe something with the Wired Networking?
     
  24. flowdesigner

    flowdesigner Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you, but I need much more battery power, hopefully something that sticks several centimeters out, like my thinkpad battery does.
    Im using 4 qores at 50% cpu most of the time, and that gives me 2 hours or something. Working on mac book pro I have 8 hours (but 2 cores :)

    Anybody knows?
     
  25. Boomer520

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    i was just able to break the 6k barrier in 3d06 with 6103 marks with the 9600gt.
     
  26. bungee_70

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    Hi,

    I had problems with my MS-1722 ID1 because whenever I tried to make it standby or hibernate, it would freeze and I had to hard reboot it.

    I therefore tried to update its BIOS using this repository. I did it with a USB key formated with the HP utility and using Win98 dos system files.

    Now, no matter which BIOS I try to install, when I reboot, I get a "CMOS Checksum Bad" message and it boots with "fail-safe settings" giving me the possibility to try again, but Windows 7 can't boot anymore, so I'm basically stuck.

    Any idea how to restore my BIOS? Thanks a lot!
     
  27. bungee_70

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    Nevermind, after a couple of reboots and disabling AHCI, it booted again. Phew! Two questions:
    -It reminds me that AHCI never worked for me, even with Win7 64bit. I need to have it disabled. Any idea why? It's supposed to be faster with AHCI...
    -Even with latest 1.10 BIOS, standby and hibernate still don't work. When I set it to go, the hard disk works a bit, the screen shuts down and when you would expect the machine to power off, it just hangs there with the screen shut, but the lights on. Any idea?
     
  28. Automatikjack

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    bungee the cmos checksum error thing sounds correct for a bios flash as yes all checksum information is zeroized and then rewritten to default information. Try going into the bios and confirming first of all what bios version you are currently at, then try loading failsafe or default settings...

    if the bios gives an option to load defaults at the checksum error option, then do it, that might solve your issue with the bios,

    or you could have a bad cmos battery, unlikely but possible.

    as for not being able to boot into windows 7, its possible that since the bios was changed that you will be unable to boot due to win7's new validation techniques which will either restrict, or fubar your installation when you majorly change something,

    we've had one other case regarding this and bios flashes with win7, though i cannot confirm this is the cause. in any case try a repair installation, or do a full reinstall.

    as for flashing, make sure youre running the .bat that automatically handles the bios flash.
     
  29. bungee_70

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    Thanks Automatikjack for your response. I think I randomly finally did what you said: I loaded defaults, and then changed AHCI to disabled.

    I still don't understand though why I can't standby/hibernate and why AHCI doesn't work.
     
  30. Vulnavia

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    Hey Bungee I did a quick search and found this guide that might help with the standby/hibernate isuuse (although it's for XP): http://ask-leo.com/why_cant_my_machine_hibernate_and_hows_that_different_than_standby.html

    And this for your AHCI problem: http://www.vistaheads.com/forums/mo...bled-system-restore-doesnt-work-properly.html
    And this one also: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257792-30-vista-boot-pick-ahci-sata-mode

    Hope these help.
     
  31. RePaRaQu

    RePaRaQu One name. One legend.

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    Have you installed the cardreader software/driver?
     
  32. Automatikjack

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    thats a very likely possibility, check the card reader software/utilities, and see if theres something special there.
     
  33. flowdesigner

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    Should I sell my quad 2.53ghz GX720 and buy a Macbook Pro. That is the question for me.
    Latencies for RME fireface 800 is my main concern. Anyone else here using ff800?
     
  34. Automatikjack

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    Well I guess that decision would depend on how badly you need FireWire 800, sure the installed FireWire in the 720 is only 400.
    Have you considered an expresscard? I know they make those but I'm not sure of the latencies or the controller chips used in the cards. The 720 will work almost perfectly with OSX since your macine is amost identically confgured to a MacBook pro. I'd say give a card a shot and see if it's able to do what you need it to do.
     
  35. T2slow

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    I use Alesis IO26 firewire with either internal FW or a Sunix 1394B Express card (firewire 800 and Texas Instruments chip). Either way, the only thing that got my latencys low enough was using XP :( Vista was the worst, 7 was in between....also thougt about trying OSX
     
  36. flowdesigner

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    Thanks a lot!

    Is it TI chipset on the GX720?

    Maybe I should just get the new RME UC usb interface instead

    Cheers!
     
  37. Automatikjack

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    Honestly I'm not sure what controller is there for the fw, I'm away from my computer ATM, but I'd imagine it's TI, though it's possible that it's O2 micro since they handle the other card controller hardware.
     
  38. flowdesigner

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    Thank you,

    If its TI chipset, I think the MSI is a keeper, and I try to improve the communication with the ff800.

    I would love to get this confirmed though
     
  39. flowdesigner

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    Anyone know when the Windows 7 RC expire btw.

    I need to make up my mind about MBP before that
     
  40. Lambofreak

    Lambofreak I like, love laptops

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    Its over in Australia I beleive.
     
  41. Genna

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    Windows will automatically notify you that the expiration process is about to begin. Two weeks later, your PC will shut down every two hours. For Windows 7 RC, the bihourly shutdowns will begin March 1, 2010. The software will expire June 1, 2010.

    ... There is no time ... mine is the same ... I made my mind and I have to buy one also ... :(
     
  42. Dead2th3world

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    @ lambo : already ?? not here though .. i'm still using it on my dell ..
    I think in march or may .. or in between :p

    E: As genna said
     
  43. flowdesigner

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    Youre getting a Macbook pro?

    Ive heard quadcore macbooks is to be released soon, so I want to wait a bit.
     
  44. Ahzroe

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    I installed the O2Micro_FlashMemory_x86x64_Logoed_V3.25_20080722 driver and rebooted. Still the same unknown device message under Device Manager.
     
  45. Dead2th3world

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    Install the CIR Driver.
     
  46. Lambofreak

    Lambofreak I like, love laptops

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    Sorry, misread.

    Thought he said the upgrade option, not the RC, may bad :p
     
  47. Ahzroe

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    Tada!!!!

    Thank you so much!
     
  48. electrosoft

    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

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    I can't really see a quad core macbook pro being released with that increased thermal budget in that very thin and light chassis, but I can see an i7 dual core arrandale making it to market.
     
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    Welcome ;) CIR stands as Consumer Infrared , yep we do have one.
     
  50. Genna

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    Oh, that's what MBP means... :) I meant that I need Windows 7 OS.
     
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