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Anybody knows of the GE75 is compatible with 1.35V RAM? I'm looking at 32GB 3200C16 G.Skills since 16GB is not enough for me.

 

Yes it is

You can even run it at 1.5v if you wish

 

Thanks, ordered 3200C18 2x16GB kit. Couldn't get any faster 32GB kit....

 

Hey, So the only tape I was able to find was 3m scotch 23 (No kapton or 33+) and this clear fingernail polish:


Will they both work?

 

Today I removed everything related to HID's LM application from the dam to kapton tape and thoroughly cleaned everything.

Some points I want to share, safety wise they did well all contact points where covered with something (Hopefully a commercial grade replacement for clear nail polish) so when I removed all the tape everything was safe, but temps where absolute **** 4 months after purchase which is unacceptable for an LM application (Or any thermal paste application for that matter) and the CPU dam was deformed in some places which made some cores reach 90s while the others are still 81 (All of this was before me removing the heat sink).

My 2 cents if you are not comfortable in applying your own LM don't waste a cent paying "Pros" to apply it.

Now I am back to Kryo and will finish getting everything I need to apply my own LM within this week hopefully.


One last thing, today I saw the live stream on "OwnorDisown" with someone from HID and it f***ing triggered me when he said we have a proprietary way of applying liquid metal and going on and on about how good they do it.
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and HID if you want someone to help I guess looking at @seanwee application can make him a better employee than the people you assign for LM applications

 

I would like to know this too

Sent from my LM-V510N using Tapatalk

 

Had the same issue, had to undervolte and limit the CPU to 3.8GHz.
After I payed 60$ for LM in a store, they didnt isolate nothing, I got lucky to not fry my laptop!

So I reaplayed the LM and I found out that the GPU had nothing, lol so no wonder that I was overheating :S anyways I did isolate my laptop and then applied the LM.

Sad to see that the VRams and so one have thermal grass, maybe I gona change it but I don´t know the thickness of it :S

 

I as well.

 

I must have gotten lucky with mine. I got it in the mail yesterday and was getting all my games downloaded and windows updated. With a steady 35w power draw my CPU doesnt go over mid 70s with factory paste and no undervolt. This is with auto fans, too. I have to figure out how to get throttle stop to work, it gives me an error when I open it.

I played WoW for a bit and I'm at the capped 100fps and I think the CPU was in the 50s. GPU was in the 60s-70s with no tweaking done at all.

My last laptop was from 2010 or 2011 so this one is a beast to me. Screen, keyboard, build, and performance all are so much better.

 

Yeah i had thought HID's application would be better than my application with their proprietary method.

 

Get 0.5mm thermal pads for the gddr6 and 1mm pads for everything else.

 

How to I know were is the VRAM and the other stuff :S Sorry to ask

 

You'll know once you open It up I guess.

 

Hello guys.before 2 days I repaste my laptop with grizzly.that the different I saw is at high mhz of cpu.what I mean.if I underclock it to 3,6 3,7 I dont see much different ( I saw at first day only was 70c max) now temp is around 75 max 80 some times at 3,7 hz.the different now it's when work cpu at stock mhz.3,9. Before repaste hitted more than 90c and now max 85.at cinebench 15 now hit 1250 cause stay stable at 3,9..but dont know I feel I didnt good job at repaste cause the first day was so low the temps. Here a video..check my videos.only the last is with repaste that apex legends.

 

Well the VRAM will be on the GPU, so that will be easy for you.

 

Is there any programm or something to stress test my temps that u using ppls here for I tell u my temps to tell me if it's normal for repaste that temps or I did bad repaste.thnks guys

 

prime 95 small fft

 

Thnks I will do it and I share here the results to tell me guys if its good

 

Any ideas my dudes?

 

If the nail polish is clear all the way though with no metallic particles it should be insulating. I test using a multimeter to be safe.

 

Never, ever use smallFFT (or Linx Linpack) for any relevant temperature testing (!!!).
Both have no use in a desktop stability testing and will show skewed results, a magnitude higher than any real world benchmark like x264v2 for example.
A 9900K @ 5.2GHz will hover around 180-200W in normal stress testing like X264 or Realbench, throw SmallFFT / Linpack on it and it will go up to 260-280W and throttle all the time. What's the point?

 

That's if you use small fft AVX

 

Obviously, but any modern Prime95 release uses AVX by default if not set up otherwise.

 

I've always stuck with the version in my benchmarking pendrive. Think it was v26

 

Yep, the "best" version of Prime95 is the latest non-AVX one. Version 26.6.

By the way, has somebody succeeded in breaking 10k in 3dmark Time Spy? My best run was 9784pts: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9108518
-145mV CPU and afterburner custom curve, somehow using the OC scanner to calculate the curve gives me the most consistent frequencies.

I'd love to have a ~180W VBIOS on this thing! I'm wonder if I should sell it and go for 9880H but that would cost me tons of cash and even after repasting GRID 2019 pushes the CPU to 90*C (albeit at 4GHz all-core, still) and GPU to 76*C.

 

Martin.how u rams run 2990 mhz?
9880h its powerfull cpu but runs hotter than 8750 and 9750? Damn that thin build mania at ours days goes bad.i would prefer a fat ge75 raider with low temps

 

Well, that's one of MSI's biggest strengths - it has an unlocked BIOS without any mods...with XMP support and all.
When at BIOS, press left alt, then add right CTRL, right SHIFT and F2. You should see more BIOS options appear. Not 100% sure but that should be the key combination.

9880H will run a lot hotter as it has 2 more cores and I'm reluctant since some modern games like Grid 2019 already make the 9750h hit 90's no matter the paste and undervolt applied so the tradeoff would be something like 6 cores @ 4.0GHz or 8 cores @ 3.5GHz.

What bugs me the most is that there is nothing in between the GE and GT series in terms of size.
The GE75 is very light with the SATA HDD removed and replaced by 2x M.2 drives, considering the power it packs with full RTX2080, however there are no 3.0-3.5kg notebooks at all.

Above GE there is the GT with it's insane 4.5kg and dual 1kg power bricks, similar story with the Area51M but both the A51M and Clevo's are (IMO!) low quality. A51M has bad design leading to failures and Clevo is plasticky.

Riding a bike with 6.5kg of laptop in my backpack every day to work would be deadly, not to mention the GT doesn't look very professional while the GE is not as bulky and the stickers / logo's can be covered with vinyl wrap.

 

thnks for info.this is my time spy
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/40688557
I thing its hard to pass 10k

 

How cpu demanding is grid? It cant possibly be harder on the cpu than prime 95 (no avx)

I run my GS75's i7 9750h without the tdp limit and at max fans it hits 88C cpu and 82C gpu when running prime95 with heaven 4.0 extreme. Im running liquid metal of course but i dont believe that the GS75 has better cooling than the GE75.

 

Grid hits hard on both GPU and CPU so they warm each other up.

 

Same thing with prime95 and heaven 4.0 extreme

Prime 95 loads the cpu
Heaven 4.0 extreme loads the gpu.

 

Guys can connect this ssd to my ge75? 860 evo
https://www.mobilehellas.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=1211_1038_844&product_id=46767
Or this
https://tokinito.gr/samsung-860-evo...UzMTUseyJhcHBfdHlwZSI6IndlYiIsInRhZ3MiOiIifV0

 

If you don't have a hard drive then yes, as there is only 1 2.5 slot and 2 m.2s

 

Yea I want replace the old 2,5 thnks

 

Guys I want to repaste it again cause I feel last time I didnt good job.i placed too much grizzly and I want clean it and paste it again.i ordered again grizzly and 0,5 thermal pad.at vrm I place grizzly paste or pads? from factory has thermal paste.

 

Hello my friends.i made a video for u tell me ur opinions.its.my first time I repaste laptop and I feel I didnt good job.maybe I was thought the temps will be lower.i will open it again for add ssd and I can repaste again if need.what u thing?

 

This is all after the repaste right?

If so, the temperatures look great. Good job.

 

Well yeah, 82*C at 40% CPU load but that's predictable on a gaming laptop, though it would indeed mean 90+ in GRID, I think they're using a lot of AVX based computing in this game.

 

If I play much time at underclock 3,7mhz after 1-2hrs can peak 85 87c.i thing it's close to stock thermal past.maybe I repaste again

 

Well I did repast mine aswell but only the thermal, did it 2 times (used Grizzly 1rst but then I did use Marker)



Most intensive game at this moment while playing and with no turbo boost, a little UV the CPU to -160 on core and cache but again, not limiting the speed, sometimes it will go a little lower but again I think its good value.

I gonna maybe change the thermalpads from thermalgrass because I belive thermalgrass isn´t that great.
Also LM doesnt pay off...

 

I have at home LM and thermal paste.grizzly both. I afraid use LM dont know why.its a new laptop and dont feel good to apply this think. I will repaste it again with grizzly and I have 0,5 pads for vrm. Someone said here 0,5 for vrm.u have better experience than me.what pads u will add?

 

Don´t waste time on LM, its brings alote trouble and only a few little ºC over a good thermalpaste, trust me, and besides, u need to reapply every 4/5 months at best. More expensive overall for not much improvemente besides the HIGH risk of damage ur motherboard.

I saw alote ppl fry his motherboard because of too much LM and its a very precise work.

For the VRAM u can use 1.0mm pads, thats what MSI reply to me today. They did recomend to not change the thermalgrasse to thermalpad but again I don´t believe that thermalgrass is better then thermalpad.

Even the CPU has some thermalpad and has no contact with the coolersink, so, bad job from MSI overall.
Can´t figure out why they when for a damn thermalgrasse because thats a major issue in the ASUS world of the ROG ones... well go for a good thermalpaste, u can use the Grizzly or try the Coolermaster Maker (a good one too and in my case even better the Grizzly).

For the thermalpads, u can use 1.0mm = makes more contact and pressure overall.

 

Damn I have only 0,5 pads and if I order I need waiting many days.maybe I will use grizzly paste then to all.

One guy told me that he removed the back cover and saw very low temps.ok I think it's dangerous something like this but I have in my mind something like this.can modified exactly like this ...this have it from stock the new msi gt76.this with cooler pad will be awesome

 

Yes u can. Its another way to fix it.

Sure a costum bottom panel for a better INTAKE would make alote more sense, I mean, I even tought about that too...
But here I can´t get it, atleast not in my country. BUT if u can, damn, do it, because its worth.

The intake grill is tooooo small so the problem isnt the outake of hot air, is the intake from bottom that is very limited. On my GP is even worst then on GE series, again, its kinda sad, because I have mine connected to external monitor and I use external mouse and keyboard, the Laptop has a liftup about 6cm high from the ground, no problems there but again, intakes are so limited.

If I play outside home, I get alote higher temps because of the problem of the bottom, even if I lift the end side.
I guess MSI isn´t evolving much in their cooling system at all.

Put u made a great point there, a great costum bottom may fix the solution!

 

Guys it's the best think I did at my laptop.do it for.best performance and temps.buy from ebay a bottom cover for ge75 raider and cut it like gt76 titan cover.works best with cooler pads.its damn amazing. When u turn on the cooler pad ur temp drop around 5c-6c.I have max cpu temp after 2 hrs gaming 80 max.check the video

 

Anyone can share their RTX 2070 Laptop overclock settings?

Like costume, curved or any settings is welcome to compare to mine!

Thanks!

 

Can you share a pic of your cut? I've ordered a bottom panel from aliexpress and cut a hole under the CPU and GPU, but I you can share, that would be great

And by the way, for those who want to order a second bottom panel, the one for GE75-8 work (17E1) for GE75-9 (17E2), they are exactly the same part.

 

can you link the bottom panel from aliexpress? cant seem to find it

on another note my unit just came back from cleaning and repasting from an MSI service center and temps are really good better than when i had gelid gc extreme,, the guy said they use a new better paste than the ones that come from when you buy the laptop.

comparison: the outer worlds game ULTRA/motion blur 0 (clocks 3.8ghz rtx 2070, UV -153mv, fans - auto,1inch lift from table via stand)
old
cpu 83
gpu 80

new
cpu 73
gpu 70

i was suprised by this hahaha

 

The one I bought:
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/4000199855516.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.29bc6c37FDNp3T

 

can you post a pic of how you customized it? thanks