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Modified 436.51 drivers with extreme-G inf patched.
Link:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/modded-nvidia-drivers-for-windows.826322/page-37

Windows 1903

 

Nice I wanna give a try.u have tested them to any new game like modern warfare? Works good with all games?

I see there has and newer drivers.441,20 u had tried it? Why u dont update?

 

Are they really better than stock Nvidia drivers? and do they have Shadow-play?

 

This makes more sense.

 

what are the benefit of the modified drivers? what is extreme-g?

 

I would like to know too

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Hi, All!
Tried to search the forum, but nothing was found.
Does anyone have TPM module installed in stock MSI GE75 Raider 9SG?

 

It must have one but it's useless without upgrading to Windows 10 Pro.
The stock Windows 10 Home doesn't support Bitlocker.

 

What about Asus laptop?.u tried it at games?

 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/NVIDIA-GE75668-Aluminum-RAM-Windows-Intel-GeForce-i7-9750H-Black-16GB-17-3-GE75-Core-1TB-MSI-Raider-Ready-NVMe-SSD-10-Laptop-RTX2070-1TB-VR-Gaming/583225529?irgwc=1&sourceid=imp_zbv2Xr0Z:xyOWKYwUx0Mo3ERUkn1b1wdNQupTM0&veh=aff&wmlspartner=imp_1883484&clickid=zbv2Xr0Z:xyOWKYwUx0Mo3ERUkn1b1wdNQupTM0

For anyone who is still on the fence about buying the GE75 although I don't love this laptop @100% but at this price it is one of the greatest laptops you can get.

 

Double post

 

@awsan this is an excellent deal, but I just purchased the 2060 version of this from Costco - starting tomorrow it's on sale for $1199.00, $200 off. I wanted the 2070, but the value was better for me. I get an extra years warranty and by using the member's Visa card I get 2 more years and I get the Costco concierge tech support. Also 3 month no question return in case I find a better deal.
New to the forum and will be searching for tips on setup. If any one has links or ideas, I'm open. Thanks in advance. The lappie arrives today ( Going to have Costco price adjust tomorrow, per their suggestion).

 

Yes.
To enable TPM 2.0 module on MSI GE75 Raider 9SG (i think 9Sx and 8Sx too):
0. Boot to BIOS
1. Unlock BIOS hidden menus: hold Right Shift + Right Ctrl + Left Alt and then press F2
2. Go to Security tab -> Trusted Computing -> Security Device Support -> select Enable
3. Check Intel PTT state: Advanced tab -> PCH-FW Configuration -> PTT Configuration -> TPM Device Selection -> PTT (dTPM option not tested by me)
4. Save and Reboot to Windows
5. Check Device Manager: now you should see Security devices section with Trusted Platform Module 2.0

 

According to https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028713/windows-10-turn-on-device-encryption , Win 10 Home may be able to do a device ecnryption, instead of turning on BitLocker.

Though, I also don't have that option in my Win 10 Home@MSI GE75 Raider 9SG, to turn on device encryption. And in PowerShell, the get-tpm command returns "Not found". And I can't see any TPM-related options in BIOS.

MSI support says, they do not ship TPM-able Raiders to Russia (this is where I live), because our KGB prohibits import of "uncertified" encryption hardware (read this as "encryption hardware that they can't hack").

So, I'm just wondering, if Raiders in other countries have TPM enabled.

 

Welcome , undervolt with throttlestop and enjoy it. For 1080p it's very nice the rtx 2060 too. Rtx 2070 and 2080 shows the power at bigger resolutions. Also it's good u make advance fan speed at dragon center for gaming like 30 45 55 70 85 100.or something like this

 

Thanks so much, @greninga - I'm new to gaming but not to computers by any stretch. It will take a while for me to get up to speed on GPUs management, etc. I hope I don't overheat in the process ; ) . My background is in music production. I purchased this laptop so I can use the Oculus Quest Link to access PCVR games and experiences. I do intend to dL some 2d games too. I have a lot to learn about both the settings and the tools I need. I'm very glad to find this community!

(Edit : Got the Throttlestop video mentioned early in thread. I'll look into “advance fan speed” settings when I finally open this baby up. I had to let it acclimate in temp, it was freezing when it arrived.)

 

I haven't updated because of stability regressions on the newer drivers. I'm basing this off RodroG's driver benchmarks, you can find him on reddit. I've no need for the new game optimisations as well so I've stayed at 436.51

The modified drivers remove all nvidia's telemetry and bloat. And extreme G is an inf tweak that optimises several settings for better in game stability/performance.

 

Damn that 8750 got high bottleneck from rtx 2080 at some unoptimize games.just the half power GPU works.just that unoptimize games like far cry need 5ghz CPU.only the 2 core its maxed,the others sleep.really bad optimize.the division 2 works nice GPU solid there

 

About the TPM module.
I think it's in all of the msi 17" G models.

 

That's not right, I get 99% gpu usage when running the far cry 5 benchmark.

There is some bottleneck on far cry new dawn however as on desktop, they should get similar fps with the same gpu but i get 10-20 fps less going from fc5 to fc nd.

 

Yeah, got it on my french ge75 9sg without doing anything inside BIOS.

 

I have same frames like this guy. At some area gpu down 60 or 50% this is bottleneck.i tried and modified drivers and was 2 3 frames more.at far cry dawn gpu really suck.50% if u see laptop with 9900k cpu then gpu solid to far cry dawn 99% and has double frames.

This frames can hit an i7 8700k with gtx 1070
Really my next laptop will be with desktop cpu.
Look and area 51m with 9900k damn this is big different

 

Something really is not right here. I'm only rocking a 2080 Max-q and I'm getting more fps than you are? With a gpu oc I get 114-117 fps.

Very strange indeed

The a51m is a different story, it has a 200w 2080 so you can't expect your 150w 2080 to get those kinds of fps. I'd expect 120+ average for the GE75

Edit: Try overclocking your ram, I searched for far cry 5 bottleneck and quite a number of people reported that ram speed makes a big impact in fc 5

Have a look



I'm running 3200mhz cl18 with tightened subtimings which is much faster than the stock 2666 mhz that comes with laptops.

 

The difference between untweaked 200W 2080 and 150W with UV is small, maybe ~100-125MHz more on the GPU core.
In 3Dmark the scores are pretty much the same:
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9202398
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9385308
Maybe the GPU is choking because ASUS runs at PCIEx8.

That said, the ASUS G703GXR runs all 8 cores @ 4.4GHz and the GPU at ~1950-1990 with .95V. In GRID my temps are hovering around 80 for the CPU and 70 for the GPU so in terms of CPU power a big difference vs. the GE75.

 

In terms of multi core prowess yes, it is much faster. But in the games you'll actually see a bottleneck, the bottleneck will be coming from single core performance and in that case, the i9 will only be 10% faster.

 

Absolutely, however it's more about the temperatures and noise. The MSI is really, really loud under load.
I'm not sure why the GPU usage is around 88-92%, tried 3.8GHz vs 4.4GHz on the CPU - same GPU usage.

 

Yeah thats to be expected, the Asus has much more heatsink surface area and much bigger fans so they will push more air at lower rpms.

What game are you referring to?

 

The gpu of ge75 its strong.i see it at games that no need strong cpu.i have close same frames like powerfull desktop.the problem come when games need strong cpu and the gpu usage drops. At call duty or the division 2 I have a small difference with 9700k and rtx 2080 desktop.but at far cry or other cpu game its big difference.but we talk for 1080p.if there higher resolution or higher scale resolution,no problem.works nice.i thinking to get a 1440p monitor.no bottleneck there.

 

Does anyone tried 2TB SSD? Does ge85-8sg support it?

 

Far cry 5/new dawn is an exception rather than the rule, it's just poorly optimised.

Did you watch the video I linked above? Try overclocking the ram in the GE75, desktop ram is a lot faster than laptop ram so you need to overclock the ram in your ge75.

 

I dont know to overclock the ram and how much overclock.i know to go at overclock menu at bios.but at memory has only 133 and 100mhz.

Edit: But video show 2133mhz ram.we have 2660?

 

GRID 2019 is so far the heaviest game I can test.

 

the 2060 GPU only has a max of 80 watts while the 2070 can reach 150 watts, their is a significant difference in performance any way you look at it. I have the max-q version of the 2070 and it reaches 97 watts max in XTU, even that has significantly more power then the 2060.

The only reason to get a 2060 is if the deal is to good to pass up and you already have a decent gpu in something else. Its all about the wattage.

 

This is the guide I roughly followed to of my ram http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-advanced-version.823065/page-13#post-1089803

And mine runs at 3470 right now.

 

Thanks for the input but I just got it delivered. I might find a 2070 in a similarly outfitted laptop on BF, but I don't expect it. I'm new to gaming computers so I'm learning about tweaking. My main use is for VR. I have another machine for music production but I expect that I'll do some of that on this, too. If anyone has any tips or a good source of info on setting up a gaming machine, I'm all ears , er, eyes...

 

Guys have anyone tried

WD Blue 3D NAND 2TB Internal PC SSD - SATA III 6 Gb/s, M.2 2280, Up to 560 MB/s - WDS200T2B0B
SanDisk Ultra 3D NAND 2TB Internal SSD - SATA III 6 Gb/s, 2.5"/7mm, Up to 560 MB/s - SDSSDH3-2T00-G25

one of these? I am asking the MSI support center but they keep saying there might compatability issues.

 

Well thnks for this post.i can go up from 2666 to 2933. Uncore +125 trefi +10 and memory ratio from 10 to 11. If I go memory ratio 12 the laptop goes to default.

 

Edit: damn man just wow! From 2666 to 2933 and I got +10 frames at far cry!lol help me to go at 3200

 

Edit: ok I higher the trfc and now run 3200.damn its awesome I cant believe it. At anthem and far cry that 2 i tried. That games had problem and now run so good.anthem from 70 frames at opens area now hit 90 100. And far cry +15 max frames.dont know this if will be stable but maybe I try buy a new ram sticks at 3200? I things somehow helps the cpu at heavy cpu games.

Again edit: at last +10 15 frames and gpu usage 95-99% at apex legends when u are at air plane before land.there can see all the map.i am suprise cause I watched video on youtube and 2666 vs 3200 has so small difference about 3 -5 frames to all games.wtf.
The cons is I thing have a little bit higher temps at cpu.before max was 80c and now sometimes hit 84 85 peak.
The big question is.. if u buy stock 3200 rams u will have that little higher temps? And same perfomance like that stock overclocked?

 

Haha told you to give it a try. The desktop benchmarks you see have a much smaller difference because they are already running at cl15 whereas on laptops ram typically runs at a very slow cl19.

Getting better sticks will help you get higher clocks. Temps will depend on what voltage you run them at. It's safe to run the ram up to 1.35v. Above that you might want to put thermal pads on the ram so that they can transfer some of the heat to the chassis.

 

whats the best replacement memory to put in this that everyone is using?

 

I'm just using the stock Samsung C-die ram

 

Me too stock.2x8gb 2666mhz but with Seanwee help now runs 3200mhz overclocked and the difference suprise me

 

I am with stock.volt 1,2. Just +125mv at throttlestop and uncore bios. This is the reason for a bit higher temps? Maybe we can lower the mv at offset?

 

+Uncore isn't needed for speeds below 4000mhz. Try setting it to 0

I dropped the system agent to +75mv in throttlestop as well.

 

But u dont run 1,2 volt? Are u 1,35?
What u thing for this rams?

https://www.mgmanager.gr/notebook/5...A1MjMseyJhcHBfdHlwZSI6IndlYiIsInRhZ3MiOiIifV0

This will runs stock with out touch nothing 3200? Or need 1,35volt?

 

I'm not sure what memory dies are being used on those but you want to find ram sticks with Samsung B die for overclocking.

And yes, that ram will run at 3200mhz stock.

Im running 1.3v on my ram. Dual rank (16gb) sticks need more slightly voltage than single rank sticks to hit a specific clock.

 

They are all Hynix C-Die based, new stuff. 32 gigs did run 3000 C16 at 1.2V XMP.

 

I see, sounds good. How well do they overclock?