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If I add that ram c16 3200 our ge75 has xmp? xmp its auto overclock?damn I am noob at this.how I know how much volt needs this rams?

 

Hey, I picked up the deal Walmart has going on for the GE75. Should get it tomorrow. I was thinking of adding another 1tb m.2 Ssd. Not sure if I’ll get the Samsung 970 or something a little cheaper. Use the 2 ssd’s for video editing files and gaming. While keeping the hdd for file storage.

How much of a difference would replacing the ram to 2 16gb sticks get me in gaming FPS and 4K/1080p video rendering? If there is a good Black Friday deal on Ram I was thinking of getting some. If it is not that big of a difference then I will hold off for awhile. If it is, what would you recommend? Need something cheaper.
Thanks

 

Why would regular ass SSDs have compatibility issues?

Why do you trust random MSI customer service people to know anything?

Why are you looking at the WB Blue when 2TB NVMe like the Sabrent Rocket are a few dollars more?

 

If the ram is advertised as 3200 cl16, that means that's the speed it will run with the xmp profile. Ram voltage is also saved in the xmp profile.

I'm not sure if you need to do anything on the GE75 to make it run the xmp profile though. Most motherboards will also apply the xmp profile but some will need you to choose xmp manually.

The ram can be overclocked higher than the xmp profile for extra performance if you're willing to spend a little time testing how high it can overclock.

I normally increase voltage to 1.35v first, then see how high the ram speed can go before its unstable. Then, I try loosening the timings. If that doesn't work, go back to the last stable clock and tighten the timings. Once that's stable, see if the voltage can be dialed down. And after everything is done, start tightening the secondary timings.

 

XMP means - you have to select the XMP memory profile (in this case 3200 CL16) in BIOS, hit F10 to save and hope it works. If not, increase DRAM/Uncore voltage. After enabling XMP it might take ~30 seconds for the laptop to POST.

If it works just by enabling XMP and is stable, don't tinker with voltages.
And for the record - XMP in the GE75 in hidden in the BIOS, you have to press the key combination.

 

Well at bios I can choose only default or custom.i see up has XMP P1 near default and custom but bellow there u change profile hasn't xmp. Need add the memory first?

 

I'll assume english isn't your first language.

Go into bios
hold down left ALT
at same time hold down right CTRL
at same time hold down right SHIFT
at same time hit F2

Presto, hidden bios options.

 

Yea it's hard for me to talk english.
I am at hide bios options but there has only change default or custom.cause I am with stock rams or need something to enable? I afraid to buy new rams if cant run 3200 and need overclocking it. At this panel also say information for XMP Profile 1 and say all 0.but just information.i cant see anywhere to choose xmp..just custom and default

 

I've got those: https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-Imp...HyperX+Impact+32gb+2666&qid=1574900138&sr=8-1

I enabled the XMP profile in the BIOS and it never did anything. The maximum ram speed reported was always 2666Mhz (even while gaming heavily)

 

Someone help please.i am one step before buy it.this ram is 1.35 volt.
https://www.mgmanager.gr/notebook/5...UyMTUseyJhcHBfdHlwZSI6IndlYiIsInRhZ3MiOiIifV0

Or exactly same sticks but 3000mhz and 1,20 volt. This sticks with 1.35 volt will have higher temps?

 

But this ram max is 2666.only with manual overclock can pass it

 

Indeed, If it's 2666 then it runs at 2666 but with tighter timings.
I wouldn't buy 1.35V SO-DIMMs, I'd rather get 3000 CL16 (or CL15 if they make those) 1.2V and start from there.

 

Yes, 1.35v ram sticks will run hotter than 1.2v ram but it will still run cool enough. Above that you may need to spread the heat out with thermal pads to the chassis of the laptop.

You can use 1.35v ram just fine, just set it in the BIOS.

 

Dont know but now I have the stock rams ,overclocked 2933.with stock volt all the settings stock just the timing for 10 to 11.and cpu runs hotter about 4- 5c from stock.with that gskills rams cpu will run hot? U have tried it?

 

Well, I reckon the cpu runs hotter because its being utilised more effectively now.

If my speculation is true, the gskill ram will have the same result

 

Thanks for the hint!

 

Hi all, i just bought a usb-c hub for the GE75 that comes with a VGA port. Tried connecting to a external monitor via this usb-c hub but it didn't work.

Just wanna ask if anyone knows if the USC-C port on the GE-75 support external monitors?

 

really unsure whether to pull trigger on GE75 or GS75 , lads. it seems to me it boils down to ventilation or design? Price is the same!

 

I don't think so.

 

I think it has video over usb C as I remember reading (while installing Nvidia drivers) that it was installing Nvidia usb c drivers.

 

Performance, design and battery for me.

Preferred to have that GS 75 battery life but also wanted te performance of the 150w 2080 in the GE75.

Ultimately it was design that won me over. The GE75 just didn't have that extra premium feel to it u know what I'm saying?

Would have gone with the Asus Zephyrus S GX701 though if it didn't have that stupid keyboard design. Makes it so bad for mobile use.

Hopefully their next iteration will follow the design of the GX502.

 

I have the same feelings: the design on gs75 looks just the best.
what performance drop are we talking about between gs75 from ge75 ?

TBH i would still go for the GX701 but I cannot find an intel 8th gen w/ GSYNC version of it at the same price range of the 2 MSIs. Can you? it starts at 600$ above the 2 MSIs.

 

What price are you looking at for the GE and GS 75 ? What cpu and gpu?

 

Around 2500 fully customized for the 2080 max q with Intel 8th gen

 

Ge75 is not Max-Q.

 

aw ****, this changes everything now!! !

 

Laptop is arriving next Friday. Had a gs75 and really liked it. Wanted some more horsepower and room for cooling so I ordered a ge 2080 for 450 bucks less! Was planning on repasting (kryonaut) and adding in the 2nd m.2 drive while the heatsink is off.

Does anyone have a detailed walkthrough for LM application? Basically what foam barriers to use and how LM effects heat spreaders and dies for both cpu and gpu? What is the BIOS mod and how do you do it? Cant you just set all cores at 3.6-3.8 and undervolt in throttle stop?

Does anyone have any tips on popping off the access panel? I'd really like to avoid breaking any tabs. I'm using the full advantage of best buy's holiday exchange period until I found the machine I like lol. Definitely new to all this so I apologize. Would appreciate any input.

 

https://cukusa.com/service-manuals/msi-gp70-2qf-486us.html

While not your exact model, they are close enough for hand grenades...

Tip: use a guitar pick (about a .70mm) to pry panels apart....it will not scratch and will flex before anything breaks.

 

Yup, the GE75's 150w 2080 is about 15% faster

 

yeah im so undecided . cant take a final decision.
GE75 with i7 9th gen, RTX 2080 (full, not maxq) costs 300-400$ more than GS75 with i7 8th gen, RTX 2080 maxq.
and the GS75 with i7 9th gen costs 200-300$ more than the GE75.

GE75 's design looks like ass compared to GS75 and its battery life is much worse.

will have to choose for the one that is more future proof.

 

9th gen ain't worth it over 8th gen. Just 100mhz more on all core.

The zephyrus S gx701 can be flashed with a full 2080 vbios and looks great too. What price can you find it at?

 

only at 100$ or so less than razer blade 17 pro.
at that point i might as well get the blade and flash the 2080 vbios on that one.

 

The blade Pro 17 can't be flashed.

Of all the laptops that flashing has been attempted only the GX701 has been successful.

 

g701gx starts at 2900 $, which indeed makes it better than the ge75 as of now.
however the version with gsync starts at 3000/3100$

 

any gx701 models or only the gsync one ?

 

I'm not too sure. There was someone interested in getting one as well on the GX701 thread recently .

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...76-owners-lounge.826858/page-25#post-10970687

 

Go with Ge75-9SG.
GS75 has a flipped back motherboard, so it means remove EVERYTHING for all the maintenance operations, instead of just removing bottom panel.

 

Pretty much. Only the ssds can be directly accessed.

If you want to repaste or change ram you'll need to take out the motherboard. It's more troublesome for sure but it's not that hard.

 

Well I ordered gskills 32gb 3200mhz cl16 and a monitor 1440p asus xg32vq for connect the laptop.i am very happy now that I see with stock overclocked rams the perfomance runs so close to desktop pc.( dont know..stock rams bottleneck cpu)? That game wwz I got 15% boost and all cpu games got that boost too...see guys so big perfomance damn,


I was ready to build desktop cause I found a free place at living room to place it..but with that perfomance of this laptop I dont do it now.so maybe I will build desktop at future.i dont want spent now 1500$ for get 5 10 frames.
Thnks to seanwee that he opens my eyes with rams.i dint believe u cause I watched all time 3 4 frames at youtube,but really laptop rams it's different story.i believe now that big cl bottleneck the cpu.

 

Good to hear that you're finally getting the performance you wanted.

And yea, it does seem like 2666mhz cl19 ram is a significant bottleneck for 2080 laptops. Maybe you can try overclocking the gskill ram further to maybe 3800mhz or tighten it's timings to see if it can run any faster.

 

Thnks..u think? 3800mhz haha damn I afraid that we will burn the laptop.i wanna see how the rams will run normaly with out touch nothing.i thing motherboard has limit 2666.but we will see.

 

As long as you don't go higher than 1.35v you should be safe, ddr4 only starts to get damaged at 1.5v. I'm just recommending 1.35v because it also helps keep the temperatures in check.

The limiting factor here is the ram quality by the way, not the motherboard.

 

Looks really sharp. I want to try and order a second panel and try this too. I want to use an aluminum grate if I can find one

 

You wouldn't be able to describe the locations of the chokes, vram and mosfets would you? Are all of those under the GPU heatsink?

 

New GE75 9SG RTX 2080 , stock , Comfort/Auto@Dragon Center, Balanced@Windows power management.
Battlefield V ultra DXR, resolution 100%, GPU temp 80-82C, sometimes 83C.
Is it ok (for the stock)?

Have heard, that the maximum for 2080 is 88C, and after that it turns into the fried pumpkin.
Seems to me, that the interval between 83 and 88 is too small, and can be passed accidentally and unnoticed. Especially, when overlay is disabled.

 

Damn I ordered cl16 3200mhz 1,35volt and he send me cl18 3200mhz 1,20 volt.i keep it?

 

I thing it's a little bit high that temps for ur gpu.but I thinking u have this temps cause ur cpu hit 95+ what temp ur cpu?

 

Well I keep that rams (cl18 3200mhz 32 gb). strange at xmp2 has auto set 2400 mhz and at xmp1 3200mhz ..also strange when I choose xmp1 (3200 mhz) has blue screen.needed uncore +125 and all works fine. Seanwee u was right I got + 5 cpu temp from 78 now peak 85 sometimes.ofc the games got frames boost.also guys I added xg32vq asus external monitor 1440p.damn its awesome and the laptop and nvidia works so good with it..hiden new nvidia panel showed me with so many settings gsync and more.the picture of this monitor it's so clean and colorful..the ge75 with rtx 2080 now show his teeths... I keep playing at this laptop till I burn it.then I will build a desktop with rtx 3080 maybe.but for now desktop have nothing to give me more than my laptop. ( only low temps)really beast.

 

Just got the computer today! Is there a video or something that shows how to do some of these? Like uninstalling the bloatware and overprovisioning storage?

 

If anyone is interested I am trying to sell my laptop GE 75 it has 2080 i7 8750h I'm looking to buy a desktop setup if anyone interested PM me

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