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    *** The Official MSI GE75 Raider Owners and Discussions Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. IvanPetrov

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    Well, in BFV the CPU is really around 95C+. And the GPU is mostly around 80-81C, and rarely 82-83C.
    But, in Metro 2033 (non-Redux, without DXR, very high preset+DX11 effects) the CPU is around 80C, and the GPU is still hot - around 79-80, and rarely 81.
     
  2. greninga

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    Undervolt it with throttlestop u will see -10c
    Easy to do it,1 minute u need

    Bf5 it's heavy CPU game.
     
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  3. greninga

    greninga Notebook Evangelist

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    Well rams 32gb cl18 3200mhz its damn big boost in games.

    Bf5 stock rams ultra 110 115 frames
    Bf5 gskill rams 32gb 3200mhz cl18. 140 150 frames. Exactly same place same settings at game.
    But here we have problem.

    Stock rams CPU temp 78 max 80.
    Gskill rams CPU temp 88 -90

    I read this is normal cause CPU works faster and harder than stock rams.its like CPU overclock

    Damn and I dont want use LM
     
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    Is there any way to change the Temperature Limit itself for RTX 2080 in MSI GE75 Raider 9SG?
    GPU-Z says, that Current, Default and Maximum Temperature Limits are 87C and, also, that there is some Adjustment Range.
    I would like to lower this limit it to something about 83-84C.
    But I can't figure out, how to aplly any sdjustments to the temperature limit.
    For example, MSI Afterburner's slide for Temp. Limit is just grayed out.
     
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  5. etrock

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    я ж тебе говорил сделай андервольтинг ГПУ)) ограничь напряжение на 0,9в или на 0,8в
     
  6. IvanPetrov

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    Есть некоторые сомнения на этот счет. Хочу, чтобы просто троттлилось на другой температуре.
     
  7. etrock

    etrock Notebook Enthusiast

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    тогда сделай примерно так

    ыфвфыв.jpg
     
  8. Valiran

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    Guys can you make the effort to speak english please?

    Envoyé de mon SM-N975F en utilisant Tapatalk
     
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    You can use Asus gpu tweak 2 to reduce the temperature limit.
     
  11. IvanPetrov

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    Found an interesting command: nvidia-smi.exe
    And for my GPU it gives a very interesting output:

    C:\Windows\system32>nvidia-smi -q

    ==============NVSMI LOG==============

    Timestamp : Thu Dec 05 22:16:24 2019
    Driver Version : 441.20
    CUDA Version : 10.2

    Attached GPUs : 1
    GPU 00000000:01:00.0
    Product Name : GeForce RTX 2080
    [....blah-blah-blah....]
    Temperature
    GPU Current Temp : 46 C
    GPU Shutdown Temp : 99 C
    GPU Slowdown Temp : 94 C
    GPU Max Operating Temp : 87 C
    Memory Current Temp : N/A
    Memory Max Operating Temp : N/A
    =======================================

    GPU Slowdown Temp 94C?!
    I thought, it burns in flames at 88C.
    Well, in this case, my 83C in games are pretty cool.. :))

    Also, CPU power limits in BIOS are strange, as for me:
    CpuPowerLimits2.jpg CpuPowerLimits3.jpg CpuPowerLimits1.JPG
    PL1 and PL2 = 200W??
    Max Turbo Power Limit = almost 4096??

    Loaded Optimized Defaults, updated BIOS to E17E2IMS.117 from msi.com website - still have 200W PL1 and PL2..

    And IccMax'es in XTU are up to 140A...
     
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    Welcome to the **** show that is GE75 :D, Joke aside I don't understand what MSI is trying to do with the GE75 and I am tired from trying to figure it out.
     
  13. IvanPetrov

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    Did you see similar temperature and power values somewhere else?
     
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    Not in a Y540, not in a Y740 and not in a strix laptop
     
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    I have the ge63 with a 2070 I have liquid metal on my CPU and thermal grizzly on my GPU the best temperatures that I can get as battlefield 5 as 81-83 on a CPU and GPU is 78 to 80 this is running 3.9 all core.
     
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    Μy gpu never go more than 72c rtx 2080.dont know why u have that big temps all.and.i push to overwatch 250 frames to 1080p and 160 to 1440p.only that game push my gpu to 72c all the other games around 70c
     
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    If they are using bf5 it will get hot that is what I use the benchmark. All other games CPU only get to 75 to 78 and GPU only has to 74 to 78 even lower in some cases.
     
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    try 3.9 and see what your temps are.
     
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    With stock rams cpu 3,9ghz at bf5 max temp 78 -80c and gpu 68. But my bottom cover its custom.

    With gskill rams its different story.u cant compare
     
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    I use g skill Ram and use liquid metal but I don't know what that temperatures were before is they were 95 + 96 + before I put the ram in and liquid metal. Overall when you use liquid metal it seems that you can push the system all the way to 3.9 and get low 80,s. That's what I get on a ge63 anyway. If you want to play battlefield 5 other game seems to be a lot lower.
     
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    Can you let me know what were the tools that you used to achieve this?
     
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    whate were the tools that you used to get this done?
     
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    I'm done cutting it where would be the best place to get the mesh?

    Sent from my LM-V510N using Tapatalk
     
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    Just a strong glue for everything
     
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    You know, if you get 250 FPS in that game, than it's an easy game for the GPU :)
    Try something that makes it work harder. With 60-70-80 FPS.
     
  30. greninga

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    No I have never see my gpu more than 74 or max 75 after 3 -4 hrs of gaming.and all that with gskill rams.before with stock rams the temps was so low at cpu gpu. With 3,9ghz cpu ( stock rams)I never saw more than 78 80 cpu and 68c gpu.check my channel if u want .I remember the 2-3 last videos it's with gskill rams.the other videos it's with stock.
    This one is with gskills
     
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    This one is old video with stock rams.


    And this stock rams.very heavy game


    At anthem when u went at open places the frames dropped to 65 with stock rams.and 3,9ghz cpu.

    But with gskill rams dont get down the frames.it keep 90 frames with 3,6ghz! And temps cpu around 80 82.

    At 3,9 ghz and gskill rams the temps at this game go to 90c cpu and there come the throttling.so 3,6 3,7 with gskills it's the key
     
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    If you want to use 3.9 just use liquid metal when I install my stick of ram g skill that's what I've done at the same time. Now my CPU temp stays at 82 to play battlefield 5
     
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    Many ppls say it's not safe and destroy the cooling system.it removes that bronze from cooling system.how long time u use it?
     
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    It all stains that copper that's all and you don't have to put a lot on you almost got to put it on like you would paint over something.
     
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    the thing is if you want to use your full potential of the laptop while gaming 3.9 the only way to get rid of the heat in most cases it's a use liquid metal that's why people are using it. The CPU in my opinion it's too big for the laptop and that's why there's so much heat. The CPU you're just too much power. And Intel CPUs are getting hotter and hotter every year they come out with a new one. So unless we buy bigger laptop with the other coolers there's not much that we can do.
     
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    You can also add a notebook cooler to help to transfer the heat quicker and more efficient.
     
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    So from what I'm reading, overclocking the ram increases the CPU temperature?

    Thanks.
     
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    Not exactly.

    The bottleneck here is the ram speed. And when the bottleneck is removed by using faster ram/ overclocking the stock ram, the cpu can run faster and thus will generate more heat.
     
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    The IMC (integrated memory controller) resides on the CPU so pushing the ram will probably add some heat, usually not so much but if you're adding voltage to increase stability then yes it may add more heat.

    Back then with some computer configuration the IMC was on the motherboard but now it's back onto the CPU and IMC lottery will also determine how much you can OC further and lower or higher voltage.

    Example: Desktop motherboards advertising 4600-4800+ memory support but again it will depend on your CPU's IMC. My desktop can boot at around 4600, run at 4400 nicely but I keep it at 4000. If I would buy a kit let's say that advertises 4800 it won't be able to run at those speeds. Again so for desktop users it may be useless to buy 4600-4800+ kits if say the cpu's IMC can only handle 4000 or so.
     
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    I wasn't happy with my CPU temperatures:
    Running @3.5Ghz and still getting +90c while playing BFV after undervolt and repaste.

    Saw everyone around here had better temps, so I bought a new heatsink on aliexpress just to give it a try.

    After installing it, I'm running CPU at full speed and temps don't go over 90c max during BFV sessions (78-82c average while playing)

    Now that I don't have thermal issues anymore I have to decide wether I should increase the TDP to maintain the CPU top speed OR overclock the ram frequency (I have HyperX impact). Don't think I can do both at the same time without liquid metal.

    Any recommendations?
     
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    The main issue here is increasing the cpu tdp. That increases temperatures significantly and will need a LM repaste or a manual cap to clockspeed.

    Once that is settled overclocking the ram will pose no issue.
     
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    Exactly! But for me I dont need now 3,9ghz cpu. 3,6 3,7 ghz with overclock rams transform my machine to a real desktop replacement. I have really same perfomance.with 8700k and rtx 2080 desktop. I watched so many videos on youtube with 8700k and rtx 2080 and I.have same perfomance Maybe a very small difference. Around 5 - 8 frames. I am happy now I dont need build a desktop. Thnks to seanwee
     
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    8700k oc to 5,0ghz!


    My beast laptop with 3,7ghz and 3200mhz ram.


    9700k rtx 2080 oc


    My beast
     

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    I am starting to believe mine is damaged some how as I have re pasted more than 4 times and to no avail (You have no reason to trust me but I know my stuff I can easily say I have re pasted more than 50 laptop models, troubles of being the techy between family and friends)
     
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    I believe there was some kind of problem with mine, can't say what... happy with the new heatsink so far. Hope it stays like this for a long time!
     
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    I believe ur heatsink somehow didnt touch ur cpu.maybe u pull it hard for remove it? I use ever before remove it a hair gun from far for some minutes.
     
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    I dont recommend remove the tdp.i removed and the temps at 3,9 was so high.and it's not worth, I didnt got any boost so i return to default again.
    +1000 for overclock rams and underclock cpu to 3,7.u will be surpriced.at some games I got boost 20% -50% at frames
     
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    Not everyone! Mine is pretty hot too.

    :cool: I believe, there's some conspiracy. It seems to me, that "everyone around" are just living somewhere like Alaska, or Norilsk. ;)

    PS. What is the difference between the new and the old heatsinks?
     
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    My GE75 have now a new problem, I havent been turning it on for 3 weeks, last night it have a go at me, the / R and F6 key RGB is out of sync and not following the flashy pattern no matter what I tried, seems faulty , I have uninstall and reinstall the steelseries driver, update to latest drivers, BIOS and EC, all didnt helped, the sympton as if those 3 keys cannot display green or yellowish colour, I feel that the green RGB lighting color signal to those 3 keys were bad. However the keypress of those keys were fine, just the lighting is faulty...

    I am not keen to have it service as there will be down time and more importantly by replacing the keyboard or so the technician will need to open up the laptop and possibly break the latch, at almost 1 YO my unit is still scratch free and like new, dont want it to be open up and tampered with

    Any Suggestions? Havent tried factory recovery and clean install of windows, but since turning the unit on and the keyboard lit on during post (MSI logo) still showing colour problem for those three keys, I think it would be a hardware problem after all.
     

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