*** The Official MSI GE75 Raider Owners and Discussions Lounge ***

I had nothing but constant issues with the Steelseries lighting on the keyboard for the last year or so. Every time Windows would update, the lighting would turn off. What used to work was re-installing Steelseries 3, then going into the install folder and highlighting all the .inf files and then right click and choose Install. After the last few Windows updates, even that fix stopped working.

 

Do your function keys still light up red when you press the Fn Button (or right Windows Key when switched in Bios)?

 

No, they did not. No keys would light up at any time.

It doesn't matter now as that previous laptop is now just a Plex server for my LAN, so I don't care about keyboard lighting anymore.

The lighting is working fine on my new GE75

 

I usually keep everything up to date, but I tend to run Windows update about 1 week after patches have come out, so I can first read if any of them have been a total disaster. The thing I had the most with my GE75 is the forced Nahimic software update. Nothing worse than booting windows and getting the popup that says Nahimic has updated please reboot. Several times I've then had problems with things like audio jack detection when plugging in headphones, or routing of audio to HDMI when connecting an HDMI cable. Nahimic is ****. So far (touch wood) I've not had any issues with the Steel series software, but then again I usually keep the keyboard backlighting off as I find it distracting.

 

Funny you mentioned that. I had a Nahimic popup requesting a reboot yesterday and when it rebooted, my screen was black. I had to forcefully power it off by holding the power button for several seconds before I could get a working display again.

That was scary.

 

Hello guys. My laptop is MSI Ge75 Raider rtx2060 version.



I have seen people on youtube who only repaste the GPU and CPU, leaving these thermal pads stuff, and others, who cleans and repaste everything with the same paste. My laptop is brand new and I plan to paste with grizzly kryonaut.



I have read that I should apply way too much paste on those areas in order to make them work since the empty space is way higher.

If It's ok to apply kryonaut in every surface with the same amount(1gr more-less), can I get away using another thermal paste for pads? I have Coolermaster kg-4 at my house. Is it absolutely crucial to use the same one?

Thanks!

 

Doesn't matter what you use for the memory chips. Just make sure you use plenty. It's correct that there are hight differences between some of them and the paste has to fill every gap.

I used Kryonaut for CPU and GPU and Mastergel for the rest.

1mm thermal pads won't work. Some chips need 0,5mm, but don't know which ones exactly.

Or maybe all of them need 0,5. When I used 1mm the GPU didn't have contact to the heatsink.

 

I just picked up the GE Raider Core i7-10750H - GeForce RTX 2070 from Costco on Black Friday. Any suggestions to optimize when I get it? First new laptop since my Sager 10 years ago (it's still going strong)

 

You can join the msi discord server.

There are lots of guides there to help you optimise your msi laptop.

https://discord.gg/ARYX6Ud

 

My GE75(10750H - RTX 2080 super) is 6 months old, recently I have noticed that max fan speed is around CPU - 5700 rpm and GPU - 5300 rpm with cooler booster.

Whereas few months back it was above 6000 rpm I guess. Because of low fan speed GPU is now going above 85 c.

What might be the possible issue, Fans failing or time to clean up the fans?

Any suggestions appreciated.

 

Fans slowing down can mean two things, dust accumulation or ageing bearings. But if there's no bearing noise it's probably dust build up.

Do take a picture when you take it apart to clean just to see how much dust it takes to slow down the fans.

 

There is no bearing noise at all, though I can see small amount of dust accumulation from back of the case.

I will tear down and do a clean up and check the fans rpm.

Thanks for the help buddy! Much appreciated

 

Anyone tried new bios update?

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New BIOS : E17E9IMS.10D
Release Date : 2020.12.09

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Improve system stability during the benchmark test


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I enjoy the undervolt that I have so I wont be doing a bios update. I have a 9880h

 

CPU microcodes are updated:

for 10th gen the udpate is to the latest E2 ucode, for the rest I don't know

 

I flashed 10D and overal this is garbage. Previous full stable UV and AC DC LL setting is not stable at all, so thanks to that lot of WHEA bsods. Also getting lots of IRQL bsods.
This is not a problem of a new E2 ucode, as I have patched this ucode before via windows. There must be some other changes, that make system unstable.
I had all the same settings of UV and AC DC back from 106 bios and didn't have had any problems.
I reverted back to bios 10C that is distributed via windows update and all problems gone.

 

What do most of you use/recommend for cleaning your display?

 

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Hama-Scr...28PB5F60ZSC&psc=1&refRID=7X3T3JHAW28PB5F60ZSC

Don't spray directly onto the screen.

Wet the fibre cloth with the spray and gently(!) apply to the screen. Don't use any force whatsoever.

Rinse and repeat until clean.

 

Update: GE75 9SF

I found out that you can disable the fans in idle with MSI Silent Option.

Had to do a proper repaste that gained 10C because the paste leaked out after the first try.

Sitting at 0% Fan Speed on CPU and GPU @58C with custom settings (Advanced) in Silent Option.

You would have to deinstall MSI Dragon Center for that.

I suggest setting USB Lights and Battery Charge Threshold beforehand.
(Battery Charge did reset to 100% after a couple of months automatically. Don't know why.)

 

Anyone seen the Tiamat Edition: https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GE76-Raider-Dragon-Edition-Tiamat-10UX/Overview

 

Well I saw some videos of rtx 3080 laptops and I thing my 8sg still push very good. Close to same. Still its fresh but we will see. Just i thing mobile with desktop 3080 gpu its a big difference. Its not like 2080 versions.
3080 its 300+watt gpu vs 130 150 mobile

 

Notebook 3080 is about desktop 3070 they say at notebookcheck.net.

 

That's because the 3080M is not even close to the desktop chip. The laptop 3080M is only a full 3070 chip, not the 3080 chip. That is why performance isn't much better than the RTX 2080.

If it were using the 3080 chip we would have seen 2080ti/3070 desktop performance at 130w. Nvidia is scamming laptop buyers this gen

 

I just said this cause I watched this guys channel with ge66 rtx3080.its close performance to mine.he has many videos..dont know..

 

Oh I wasn't talking about your performance. I was talking about the RTX 3080 performance being underwhelming.

 

GE76 has 150W TDP + dynamic boost 2.0 in rtx3080, so this one of the top laptops with rtx3080. But double tripod heatsink design makes me feel like @Papusan avatar.

 

Is there a confirmation on the TDP? I have been scouring and not found anything. I just assumed that the old ones that had 150w will have it now but some things overturned that....

 

Not so sure you'll feel so much better after reading my latest post... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scale-on-laptops.834039/page-70#post-11074191

You know the reason TRIPOD is born? You know the reason TRIPOD is given birth?

Slim and thin can't have proper sized MB PCB. No space for the needed screws.

The history for the avatar.

 

Not much better.

And for tripod, ge76 and older brother ge75 are not so slim compared to others and where is logic in creating tripod heatsink design. When I see such thing and I am engineer and I also have phd in thermodynamics and fluid dynamics, I want to vomit on a guy who designed it.
In my ge75 I had hard times to get cpu temps good across 8 cores because of this tripod ****. Ended in the difference of max 3-4 betwean cores. So I am in the error range of intel termo sensors.
And I needed to do a lot of work on heatsink so this ***** could seat right on the horse.
Not saying about almost closed bottom case without chance of proper ventilation.

At least I have skills to correct some pseudo enginering mess, but end user should not need to do this kind of work on his laptop.

BTW on GE76 they have downgreaded 10875h to 10870h. Guess what? I think the main reason is that they cant keep the temps under load and from 4GHz on this 10th gen mobile there is huge jump in power consumptiom. Example 8 cores at 4.3GHz around 108W, all cores at 4.43 after oc almoat 127W!! And know the winner is 4.1-4.2 at around 95W. Also they should be kicked in the balls by using only two pipes to cool cpu when they are using at least 4 for gpu. Not to say about one pipe that transfer heat from both dies. What idiot design this?
I am seriously thinking about making project for independent heatsinks for cpu and gpu and leting someone to create it on cnc.

Btw if the copper part of the heatsink on the gpu is almost EDGE to EDGE with the gpu die there will be a lot of bricked gpus by using LM on it. I had hard times also to properly secure everything to be able to use LM on gpu and secure it from spilling somwhere.

Oh and thank you for the story behind your avatar. It made my day!!!

 

HaHa.

At least MSI's engineers wasn't so darn stupid that they soldered on ram chips and wifi like Dell's engineers managed for their $4-5K AW gaming flagships. But I'm not so sure I will give Msi's engineers Gold trophy for that. All too many cons. Both brands have failed hard on their design.

Cheaper chips to increase profit also helped them on that decision A nice increase in profit if they could save of $33 on each chips without have to lower the sales prices similar the gain. 2 pipes instead for 3 will also stop increased costs who lower the profit.


https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=208018,202329

 

hi every one i have my MSI GE75 8SG with i7 8750 and RTX2080 one of the MOSFET was replace by repair shop after broken up now the laptop GPU thermals very high and the GPU keep thermally throttle in any simple game like dota2 before even the fan don't run when i play dota and gpu temps was at 60

what i did i replaced the thermal past for the gpu and the cpu twice and still the same i used Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste , and replaced the thermal pads with Fujipoly Ultra Extreme XR-m Thermal Pad - 100 x 15 x 0.5

i reinstall NVIDIA drivers still the same ,

i reinstall the factory windows image and still the same

this is the videos shows the temps rise immediately after launch dota2 and fans was at max speed

what can i do ? if any one has an idea i appreciated , what can be the problem

video link



and an image for GPU-Z and MSI afterburner results

THANKS A LOT

 

The problem its the thermal pads on gpu. Remove it..k5 pro or other gum paste like factorys on vrms.Or at last normal thermal paste on it.problem will solve

 

thanks a lot when i first opened it up it has thermal pads and the k5 on the it was a mess


the stock pads images





what i did

 

Is the air blowing out of the vents under load warm or cool? It could indicate poor GPU die or MOSFET contact.

 

the air is worm and laptop body is worm

 

The ge75 8sg doesn't use thermal pads on gpu from factory. The heatsinc its very bad design for this.who added on it the old thermal pads. Remove it and hopes for no damaged heatsinc
At last put normal grizzly on all chips till u get a gum paste. I had mine one year with grizzly at all the thinks. Worked perfeclty (don't remove thermal pads on cpu vrms)

 

i bought it from amazon and it was on it form the factory ??!!

 

New? Maybe was a repaste option from any shop?

 

no no new and no option for repast or anything

 

This is strange.. I have repaste 4 different ge75 8sg and all had gum paste on it. Also thermal pads doesn't worked at every try. This heatsinc its really bad. U have to remove all thermal pads except cpu vrms
Also the thermal paste u put on cpu gpu at pics its a lot

 

i saw images with the k5 so i ordered one i'll remove the pads and replace them with the k5 it a pain to use it
cpu vrms the pink once right ?

 

Yes I have also replaced the pink on vrms with k5 pro too,but u can let the stocks.if u have normal thermal paste now in home u can try it. Its safe. If the temps its still high the reasons *fully closed from dust or damaged heatsinc

 

thanks a lot it's clean af haha i'll try to paste it now with k5 and get back to you thanks a lot

 

Yea k5 pro on vrams vrms etc. At gpu cpu use ur grizzly thermal paste

 

U can cleary see The heatsink not even touch the gpu chip. Many times this happend cause of pads

 

THANKS A LOT MAN
i don't know what to say now is perfect thanks a loooooooot

 

Good to hear.. I know thermal pads keep the laptop clean but its hard to works good on ge75. U need many different sizes and hard work. This heatsinc its like designed by monkeys..so pain on tripod cpu like some guys said before

 

Well today I saw a video on YouTube with laptop rtx3070 (not max q) and I did a test.really nvidia did a **** at this gen this time. I made a video to compare it. This is my test video(-10%) perfomance cause record. Exchalty same settings as strix test at some scene i got +10 frames even on record..
I really wanna see the new gt76 titan or alienware with 3080

And this is an asus strix test
Look the test at 1:12:10 on this video

 

And Msi did the same.

GT76 is history. The GE76 is their new top dog. Less storrage and less ram slots. What you gained, is lower capacity cooling but a lot thinner and lower weight for the flagship.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scale-on-laptops.834039/page-76#post-11074925

 

Yea i was reading this today.. gt fans will be mad xd