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Well friend, I followed your advice:


I have disassembled and slightly sanded the 300,500 and 800 point heatsink in water and then a coat of polish and a bit of magic cotton to leave the mirror effect. Sanding has taken me about 3 hours but the result is good ... even if I had sandpaper from 1200 to 2000 points I suppose that it was better but I did not have it at home and with the quarantine you cannot go out and buy these things are not basic.

Again I reassembled and the result is now much better. The temperature does not rise now from 85º in any CPU and I have tested more than 8 hours with prime 95.

I leave you some screenshots so you can see that the improvement is appreciable and you can see the previous best note that I got in Cinebech R20

Again sorry for my English I translate it with google

 

Hello

Just a quick update after over a year with this laptop.

Performance not changed actually managed to lower temps even more and tweeked laptop to my needs. I cannot complain about performance at all however......

I have to mention poor build quality and hinge on this laptop what snapped yesterday just after I run out of warranty so unlucky for me.

If you got any suggestions or advice happy to hear from you.


This situation really pulls me off from getting MSI in future need to find laptop with better build quality unfortunately.

Thank you

 

Good weekend to everyone.
Just a question.
On my GS65 the FAN1 is very noise. I need to change it.
Do you know which one I have to buy ?
I have seen different model on the stores.
One with 2 fans and the other with 1 fan.
My laptop is under guarantee. Which is the beaviour in this condition ?

Thanks a lot

 

About 6 months in on the GS65 and I noticed this light bleed spot on the monitor.

What exactly (could) this be from and would it be something covered under warranty? Thank you!

 

If there is no physical damage I believe it should be covered in warranty.

 

I didn't do load testing recently on my GS65, but after a month and a half of using it, I noticed a disparity in max temperature readouts.

https://i.imgur.com/6UnEy49.png

Anyone know why half the CPU reads like this? Wasn't like this back in February. I currently have MX4 on the CPU.

 

laping your heat skin

 

The thing is I have not done any lapping...

 

Just per info,
this morning I changed the thermal paste on the CPU and GPU.
I'm getting 10°C less than before.
I used Noctua NT-H1.

 

You mind posting pics?

 

I reckon ull need one of these then

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-FOR-MS...419253?hash=item3fcaec3c75:g:NKwAAOSw1MBdadRK

 

Code:

Model    : MS-16Q4                                 
MKT Name : GS65 Stealth 8SE/GS65 Stealth 8SF/GS65 Stealth 8SG/GS65 Stealth 9SG/
GS65 Stealth 9SF/GS65 Stealth 9SE/GS65 Stealth 9SD

;****************************************************************************;

New BIOS : E16Q4IMS.117
ROM CheckSum : 0xDB25
Release Date: 2020.05.15

;--------------------------- Description ------------------------------------;
                
1. Update brightness table.

2. Update PMC for PCH no boot issue.

;****************************************************************************;

Anyone tried yet?

 

Can someone with the latest BIOS/EC firmware check what their minimum active fan RPM is? I've heard updating the BIOS caused the min active RPM to rise from the ~1800s to the ~2000s, has that been fixed in the latest?

Edit: Whoops, meant to post in the 2019 thread.

 

My minimum fan speed is 0 on both. @ 43°C

Edit: I set my slider at 0% on advanced and I get 0 RPMs. @10% speed minimum is 2790 RPM

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Hello

My MSI65 Fan 1 (CPU fan?) died. Contacted MSI, but so far have received no reply (after almost 2 weeks). I'm tempted to replace the fan myself or to buy the fan and have a professional do it. Prices seem to be a little bit all over the place from the research I've done ($30-$130), is there a quality grade? Could anyone link me to a reliable fan seller that delivers in Canada?

Cheers

 

This might help you : https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops...65_fan_malfunction_watchlist_potential_fixes/

 

My GPU fans started squealing earlier this year, so I purchased new fans ($32) and paste ($13) from Amzn and followed a video easily found. Not a hard fix, but a bit of a pain. Being very careful and closely following the video it took around an hour. I also added a 2nd SSD while I had it opened. All was well. My CPU fan then started squealing a few weeks back, so I repeated the same for another $32 fan. It took me around 30 minutes yesterday to complete. All is well again.

As this is not as simple as removing a cover and heat sink then changing a fan, I suggest changing both sets of fans and adding/changing any SSD and/or memory at the same time.

 

Probably lo tech sleeve bearings in the fan - my GT70 is whisper quiet after seven years.

 

Thanks dmemon. Ended up receiving a MRA after about a month. Sent it back and they replaced the heatsink. Appears heat problems are fixed and laptop runs even cooler than before the issue.

 

Anyone here that is still using the GS65 8RE with the gtx 1060? looking for any stable undervolt for the GPU in msi afterburner, a snapshot with the curve and the values would be much appreciated. Tried doing it myself and have seen a +20fps difference in valley 4.0 (and an almost +200 score point difference). Atm running this at 90C in games, will be repasting with liquid metal soon

 

Does anybody know where the Bios Chip is located?
Bios Update failed and now i have a really nice black screen.
Want to buy a replacement to solder it.

 

Applied liquid metal.
AIDA64 stability test.

Do think the temperatures are normal?
This is without undervolt.
Who has what temperatures?

 

Thats a bad application, maximum difference between highest and lowest core temperatures shouldn't be more than 5 degrees.

My guess is that your application is uneven or you didnt work in the liquid metal long enough so its not sticking to the heatsink evenly.

 

Used less than a day.
I ordered a cmos battery, when I change it, I will try to re-apply the liquid metal, if by this time the temperatures do not equalize.

 

Also check all of your contact points to make sure you have even contact. Be careful that the thermal pads you are using do not create any gaps in contact.

 

Is there any gap between the CPU/GPU cooler assembly and the keyboard? I want to glue on additional heatpipes.

 

Hi all,

Got an issue. Send my gs65 in for repairing an HDMI issue under warranty and they also replaced the battery (not free). But now, when the original charger is plugged in and I start to play some 3D games, I see the screen brightness going up and down and the battery light is going off and on and off and on, etc. FPS is ****. When playing on battery only everything is good. So it seems the charger can't deliver enough power or when the battery needs to be charged and the Nvidia GPU is busy. Before the battery swap there was no problem. Any ideas what's going on and how to possibly fix it? Will go to a tech shop and see if they have a heavier charger and test it.

Not sure if the attachment is visible?

Thanks in advance! ;-) http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5f6db29d105c3/20200925_144941.mp4

 

Re-applied the liquid metal, now the result is as follows.

 

Much better, now it's performing as expected.

 

Hi there!

This post is going to be a bit complicated and will talk about multiple issues, so bear with me please. So I bought a 2018 GS65 Stealth Thin with 1070 Max-Q, 32GB 2400MHz RAM and 512GB m.2 back in January 2019. I am in the process of making it ready for Cyberpunk 2077 and I would like to overclock the RAM to 2666MHz, but it keeps crashing on me with BSODs. AFAIK the mobo and the CPU can take 2666 RAM, therefore I do not really understand why this keeps happening to me.

I’m one of the posts online I saw someone did the same and added +0.05V (1.25V instead of 1.2V) to the RAM sticks and left the timings and everything else as is. If I do this, I got CTD crashes every so often in Superposition, until I keep trying and the screen and the audio crashes completely, leaving both of them distorted (pixelated, weird flashing screen) and scrambled audio. It was probably the most horrifying thing I’ve seen in my life, looked like something straight out of a horror movie and I thought that the laptop died. After forcing it to switch off however, I was able to boot and go to the BIOS to revert the settings and now everything goes fine.

My question is: Was anyone able to successfully OC/tweak the RAM inside this exact machine?

To give you a better understanding, here’s what’s what so far, in terms of the alterations made to the laptop:

i7 8750H undervolted: -310.5mV on Core, -160.5mV on Cache, -125mV on Intel GPU and iGPU Unslice. Now, I have System Agent at default +0, but at the time of the RAM OC, I’ve had it at -40mV, could’ve been that it was messing with the memory controller, hence the crashes?

The UV on the CPU is stable in TS Bench, Cinebench R15 and R20 and in RDR2 as well.

The GPU was untouched at the time of RAM OC, however since then I’ve flashed it from 80W to 90W and tweaked in Afterburner to be at 0.831V @ 1731MHz Core 9499MHz Memory and it seems very stable, tested for hours in Heaven, Valley, Superposition and RDR2 as well.

If I proceed to OC the RAM however, I start getting BSODs and all kinds of weird crashes. Am I missing something while tweaking the RAM or am I just pure unlucky and lost on the RAM quality lottery?

The laptop still uses the original Delta adapter, which is rated at 19.V 9.23A 150W, I’m thinking of buying a 180W at least. (I have no idea if the 230W would be more beneficial and if there’s a version that has the same plug at the end).

Any insights would help me a lot, thanks!

 

Has anyone tried playing with there ram timings and frequency yet??I cant believe how bad mine were set.It wouldn't boot past 2933Mhz so I stuck with that and dropped the timings down to 15/15/15/35 which aren't anything special but doing that managed to get me a huge performance increase..My 10750h is putting up 7900+ for cpu in timespy now...I might not of filtered it right so if someone can check out the i7 10750h timespy scores my user there is KLGE66...I was 2nd from the top with I think a Chinese guy/girl ahead
Point is though try to atleast tighten your timings it's worth it.

 

Damn that is a vicious undervolt.Im not familiar with 8th gen though so idk but I'd be scared to go that far down even if it seems stable..

I literally just posted about messing with my ram.(GE66 10th gen i7)While I couldn't overclock the frequency to 3200 I left it at 2933 and dropped the timings. And even going from 22/22/22/47 to 15/15/15/35 has made noticeable gains in performance from benchmarks to fps in game..So if you cant increase the clock you can still tighten the timings atleast..

 

Let's ask MSI support to release a new "EC" with a reduced cooler speed of up to 2000 rpm, the minimum speed of 2800 rpm is too loud.

Installed EC v106 and everything perfect.

 

Cheers! Scared...why? It’s not harmful to undervolt.

Yeah, I went into the BIOS and it seems like I can’t touch the timings at all, like they are fixed based on the frequency. I can’t see any option that removes this auto feature in order to allow me to change the values. I might just pull the trigger on the HyperX Impact 2666 CL15.

 

Try increasing the System agent to +134.8mV and see if the crash still happens. If the crash still happens, test without undervolting the cache to see if it still crashes.

 

I know

I know...Im just scared I'd getta permanent blue screen evefytime I boot if I forgot to disable it on startup haha....I've noticed anything past 80 off the cache is eventually gonna crash on me but I can go a lot looser with the core.. I'm not really seeing any temp reductions and performance will decrease. once I start taking it higher then 120..I could probably hit 160 off core stable and temps will fall but only cause it reduced performance.
Haha im jealous though man I wish I could shave of that much power.

 

That’s basically impossible. If you go by 10mV increments, you go until you get an error in TS Bench, then pull it back by 10 and stress test / benchmark it in other softwares as well. I’m not an expert but even if you get constant BSOD during windows boot up, you’d go into recovery mode upon the 3rd or 4th BSOD where TS would be probably disabled and you’d be able to uninstall it with the profile created. But for all this to happen, you’d probably have to go steep on uv and skip like at least 100mV down the line and go crazy on numbers. 300ish is actually not that crazy, just lucky on the silicon lottery I suppose. My GPU is in a similar lucky ballpark, where I was able to feed it 10W more and OC it to +200 core +750 mem with temps anywhere between 68-77 depending on game/benchmark. The thing is, I’d get an even higher score in Superposition with +825 on memory, but that frequency shows artefacts in RDR2. Which is weird, because apparently the GPU starts to underperform first due to the memory trying to correct errors, and when it can’t do that anymore, it’d then start showing artefacts. So a bit weird, but hey. Also: I’m just before attempting to put Kyronaut on, because this is still stock paste and now it’s almost two years old. Never opened it up before. CPU throttles tho, even with the UV applied. Stressing 12 threads makes core 1 throttle, it goes up to 90-91C in 10-15 seconds. Core 0 and Core 2 are anywhere around 78-85Cand Core 3 4 5 are between 74-81 where Core 5 would never ever exceed 78C under full load. So clearly HS and paste problem there. :/

Btw... what memory were you able to play with? Is it stock memory in the GE66?

 

I will attempt raising SA and Uncore separately today and see the what the results are. Removing my UV on the 8750H alone wasn’t enough, I’m still crashing just by raising the frequency from 2400 to 2666 (1.2V) with stock timings (17-17-17-39) It’s the stock Samsung RAM. But seems like I can’t touch anything on the RAM without raising either the SA or Uncore. Interestingly, CPU intensive tasks like Cinebench etc were able to run fine, idling and browsing also, but 3D applications where the 1070 mq was pushed to the max made the system crash, with the GPU on stock. The BSOD reported the following:

“ KMODE EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED nvlddmkm.sys”

Removing the RAM OC solved this issue and everything went back to stable, and I was also able to reapply my OC on the GPU as well.

 

That's one of the nvidia driver file, but could be triggered by corrupted memory, which could be the RAM. Raise your tRFC from 420 to 450 and see if it's still crashing.

Edit: You need to set Memory Profile from Default to Custom Profile in order to adjust the timing.

 

I have done the custom profile, otherwise it won’t let me adjust the frequency. However, even with custom profile enabled, I’m unable to change the primary timings and can only change a few of the values. tCL, tRCD, tRP and tRAS and others for example don’t have the [ ] bracket around the values and therefore cannot be adjusted at all. I can adjust tRFC and a 1-2 more but nothing else.

Edit: Nevermind. I’m able to change the values.

 

Bit of an update on my progress:

Seems like I’m stable at 15-15-15-35 @ 2667 on 1.2V

Thanks for the suggestion Hackness, raising tRFC was the key. Currently at 435. I might try 430 later on.

Is it worth it to mess around with tREFI?

 

Yes, increasing the tREFI will give you a boost in reading speed, I'm currently using 65535 on mine, but I'm on 3467MHz with 712 for the tRFC, same RAM as yours, stock RAM came with GS65 8RF.

 

Oh nice! How should I get to it? I’ve read somewhere that max value is the best, but my current value is around 9-10.000, which seems rather low. Should I go to max right away or gradually increase it?

 

Alright then that's good to know there is fail safes in case I go to far.
And yea this is my stock ram lol...Im stable so far with 15 15 15 35 459 and 1t cr...I gotta check what the rest are when I get home...There's a few more changed and some I hadda leave stock but this managed to get my 10750h over 8000 cpu score in time spy and graphics I can get up to 10250+ now....If you can give any pointers on making these timings better it be much appreciated
lm going for 10k overall in timespy and im like 150 points away on a good day

 

Lol I was just gonna reply to tell you how to change them.It took me forever to realize they can still be changed.

 

I got mine at 2667MHz 15-15-15-30 @ 1.2V in command rate 1N. Secondaries that I have/was able to change:

tFAW: from 26 to 16.

tRFC: 420 to 425 allowed me to OC, I get errors in MemTest86 20 seconds into the test with 420.

tREFI: maxed at 65535.

I wanted to change tRTP and lower it from 9, but even 8 would not boot and just gave me black screen, so had to reset CMOS.

Btw, if anyone has a suggestion on what else should I alter, feel free to let me know tCWL and tWR are on default value, so as tWTR_L and _S

edit: I was able to lower tCWL from 16 to 12. tWR lowered from 18 to 16 wouldn’t post. I didn’t mess with the other two.

 

You're using the stock ram also right?Have you checked what die yours is?Mine's samsung d die,I don't even have any xmp profiles lol I guess this ram is trash then?...I've looked all over and can't find one definitive formula for calculating timings for this ram.I'll read one thing then the next contradicts it haha it's like I'm going in circles.So now I'm just seeing what boots and doesn't have errors when I test it and going from there haha.

 

Yeah, it’s stock. I haven’t checked which die is it but I will, I’ll let you know!

 

I forgot to also ask when you changed your command rate to 1 did it open up another set of options called command support with options to disable or choose 1cmd up to 7cmd?I'm trying to figure out what it does..Ive tested 3,2 and 1 and don't see any performance difference.But I hate not knowing what stuff does and it be good to know if it could help stability.Ive set it to 1 for now.

 

Well, you can check the post I wrote last year, go to chapter 4 and you will see the remark for some important timings.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...advanced-version.823065/page-13#post-10898033