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Asus often does not even use removable GPUs.

 

Asus also use standard MXM slot but the difference is the PCB, the PCB on Asus GPU are huge and low density and less layer:





And like Meaker said some GPUs are soldered on the mainboard.

 

The heatsink design is part of the mxm spec though and the mounting holes are totally off too....

 

There's some new Beta drivers for the Killer E2200 Ethernet controller and the Killer 1103,1102 and 1202

Both Windows 7 and Windows 8 32/64

Head on over to station-drivers if you're interested.

Station-Drivers: le site de drivers, bios, firmwares avec un forum d'aide

 

Forgive me as I'm not exactly tech savvy; I was just directed to post here to see if you all might have some insight towards the problems I'm having.

I recently (in the middle of January) purchased an MSI GT60 0ND laptop. From the beginning I was having issues with the disk usage jumping up to 100% just while idling or surfing the 'net. It was freezing periodically, to the point where I had to manually shut it off. It also had a bizarre problem where, if the laptop was on for more than 2 hours and you restarted the system, it would give me a "configuring windows features" screen that would take 30 minutes to complete. This happened when there were no updates, sometimes 2 or 3 times a day. The worst of all was an odd crackling noise - almost like there was a pebble rolling around inside of the keyboard - that persisted throughout usage.

Since it had been less than 30 days since I had purchased it, they just replaced it for me. Unfortunately, the replacement laptop has all of the same problems and more. I took it in for them to actually look at it for me, and they said that the disk problems were caused by AVG, which they disabled, and that they couldn't hear any crackling. They said that everything was running smoothly otherwise, and they couldn't detect any problems.

Even without AVG, it still jumps up to 100% and hovers there for around 2-5 minutes. It does this the most when opening a new program, even if it's something as simple as Event Viewer or the Calculator. I'm not sure how they didn't hear the crackling noise, because on this laptop it is loud. I read that it might be caused by the hard drive shutting/slowing down, which would make sense if it just did it when I turned it off, but it persists constantly, especially when playing games. It sometimes gets so loud I'm afraid the laptop's going to malfunction or something.

It still does the bizarre "configuring windows updates" problem on restarting. Occasionally it crashes when it restarts, giving me a blue screen. Some games, even simple ones like League of Legends, will get serious frame rate drops; I can't run the games as well as I thought I would be able to. I've run several scans on several different programs; I have no malware on the system. I have almost no files on the laptop aside from games. As far as I know, my drivers are all up to date (I'm 100% sure the graphics card drivers are, at the very least).

I'm running Windows 8 64, and I'm wondering if it potentially has something to do with that, or if I just got seriously unlucky with 2 bad laptops in a row.

Sorry for the wall of text, I'm just not sure what to do. : (

 

Could be the RAM problem, you can download Memtest and make a bootable USB drive to test see if it pass the test:

http://www.memtest.org/download/4.20/memtest86+-4.20.usb.installer.zip

You will need to change your BIOS boot from UEFI to Legacy.

Or maybe your hard drive have disk read/write issues, download Seagate Seatools and run the Long Generic test:

SeaTools for Windows | Seagate

 

Hi I am new here.. Proud owner of GT70 have a couple of questions too regarding the GPU..
I am planning on upgrading my 675m to 680m.. Is it possible not to change the heatsink and where could i purchase a 680m graphics card separately?
Thanks!

 

You need the heatsink unless you are good with a dremel and stacking thermal pads...

Cards can be found on ebay and the members market.

 

Hello, I'm having problems with my MSI GT70, the notebook is not powering up when I push the button or sometimes it's powering up, show me the bios screen (showing me stuff like press F11, etc) and then shutdown automatically.

The only way I have to make it work, is to plug out the battery and/or AC Cord and put it again many times until I hear the sound of the HDD (I think it's the HDD) and it will boot up like normal.

Once the notebook is powered up and running in Windows it's working fine, I can play games or do whatever I want, the problem is trying it to power it after I shutdown the notebook or when it enters in sleep mode. In sleep mode it will die in there and I have to plug out the battery and AC Cord and do the same process everytime I want to use the notebook.

I already flashed to the last Bios and EC Firmware from MSI Webpage, I really don't know what else to do and if I have to do a RMA I need info to do this because I don't have any idea how this warranty stuff works. Thanks and sry for my bad English, is not my native language.

 

Would this notebook work without any videocard on the slot? I mean, only with gpu onboard on the processor i7?

 

Hello all,

I joined the MSI club! I just ordered the GT60 from Amazon Amazon.com: MSI Computer Corp GT60 0ND-250US 15.6-Inch Laptop: Computers & Accessories and I have a couple of questions before it gets here.

1. I understand the computer comes with 12gb of ram, and there are 4 dimm slots. I am going to assume there are 3x4gb memory sticks and one open slot. Is this correct, or are there 2x2gb and 2x4gb?

2. If there are 3 and an open slot, is the open slot under the keyboard, or is it under the access panel?

3. Last question. Can someone who purchased the laptop from Amazon tell me the specs on the memory so I can pick up one more? Better yet if you can post a picture of a memory stick that came in it, that would be great. I'd like to get the same one to fill the last slot. I suppose there is a chance that there are 2x2gb sticks, if that is the case let me know and still let me know the details on the 4gb stick, because I will need to pick up 2 of them.

Thanks in advance!

Brian

 

First off, let me say hello to everyone!
I really hope I can find an answer for a problem that I'm having with my MSI gt60-ond laptop. It originally came with W8 installed. My wife and I both tried it and gave it a fair shake. After two weeks of using W8 we both agreed that W7 was sorely missed!
Here's the problem. I installed W7 with no issues, (W7 ultimate x64) but as soon as I install the driver for the NVIDIA 675m the computer will boot and load fine for a minute or so and then BSOD! I have tried all the drivers including the betas from MSI and from the NVIDIA website with the same results.
I installed the chipset drivers and updated W7 completely before installing the GPU drivers. The laptop is 100% functional and has NO issues with any other hardware accept the NVIDIA 675m GPU
I noticed that under the BIOS updates from MSI that there is a BIOS for W7 that addresses this KNOWN issue but for the life of me I can't figure out how to flash it and when I called MSI they tell me they don't support flashing the BIOS, "downgrading" the OS and blah, blah, blah?! I am more of a desktop user and know how to flash a BIOS when it's in an iso format so this laptop stuff is kind of alien to me....
Anyone else run into this problem and have a fix?

 

Look for a program called Classic Shell, I work in IT and I have pointed many people to it that are unhappy with Windows 8, it will turn it into as close to Windows 7 as you can get. Give it a shot.

Brian

Question for you all. What software comes on the MSI GT60 to play back Blu-Ray movies? I did a clean install of Win 8 and can not find an app on the disk that came with the computer that will play back Blu-Ray movies.

Brian

 

Corel WinDVD BD came installed on my GT60. Won't WMP or VLC play Blu Rays?

 

WMP does not play blu-ray movies, and VLC will only play un-protected blu-ray movies (almost none). Mine came with Power DVD 10, but there is no key anywhere to install it again. So I'm kind of out luck right now unless I fork out cash to buy a program.

Brian

 

It should be on your driver disc.

 

For win7 you need compatible bios, but flashing from win8 bios to win7 bios it could be problem.

 

There is no Blu-Ray software on my driver disk.

I have another question, I seem to have no camera device on my Windows 8 x64 install. From everything I read it should be automatically be found and installed during the install of windows. Any ideas?

Brian

 

It's disabled by default and you need to press FN+ F6 to enable it.

 

New WHQL Intel USB 3.0 driver v2.0.1000

Windows 7 and Windows 8 32/64

intel drivers pour chipsets

The operating system must be installed prior to the installation of the driver

****This is for notebooks with Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family (Panther Point PCH)

***** WARNING *****
Do not run this driver’s installer (Setup.exe) from a USB storage
device (ie. external USB hard drive or USB thumb drive). For proper
installation, please copy driver files to a local hard drive folder
and run from there.

 

Just got my barebone MS-16F3. Pretty excited to put it together. Should be here tomorrow. Hopefully I have no issues with it. Looks like a well made tank of a laptop. Just what I'm looking for.

 

Just got it. Really pleased so far. I love how thick it is (that's what she said). Makes me feel more confident that it is cooling better and the laptop will last longer. It still feels plasticky but it's better than the GE60 barebone for sure.

Okay, just put it through some gaming and it performs a lot worse than my GTX 660M on the GE60 ... I am getting throttling. My fps drops down to 60 in counterstrike source with the same settings as the GTX 660M. any suggestions?

 

Did you get your laptop with an OS or without? If so what OS do you have installed.

Brian

 

Flash the beta EC from the MSI forums.

 

I had a copy of Windows 7 home premium 64bit that I installed.

 

Okay I'll give that a try. Thanks

edit -

It says "I've attached EC firmware for MSI GT60 (16F3) & GT70 (1762) laptops (sorry, barebone is not supported)."

The lack of barebone support is extremely annoying. It's obviously an issue with barebones too and it's really stupid that they don't support it.

 

Its firmware that controls things like power draw and fan speed.

 

Hey I editted my last post.

 

That's the official line. What you choose to do with it is up to you

 

Well I'm most likely not going to risk it however it still brings curiosity. What makes the two any different that it would brick mine but not the GT60? Is it just a scare-tactic or is there something different with the motherboard? Just curious why they would intentionally do this.

 

Officially MSI likes to wipe their hands of the barebone while the retail units are more under their wing.

There is no motherboard difference between the two.

 

So theoretically it shouldn't brick my system right? LOL.

 

You can find reports of others using it on these forums.

 

I just got a MSI GT70 0ND-492 with the gtx375mx from fry's and I'm mostly happy but I am seeing some crappy fps in planetside 2.

I have looked through this thread and was wondering if anyone could tell me what kind of updates I should do to this laptop.

So far I have only updated the video drivers to 314.07, and installed Planetside 2. No windows updates or other software installed yet.

Also what is this "EC" I keep hearing about, as if a bios update wasn't scary enough.


Thanks for any help you guys can give.

oh and if you guys think I should take it back and wait for a gtx580m because the gtx675mx sux I'd like to hear about that also.

FRYS.com | Msi


Operating Systems Windows 8
CPU Intel Core i7-3630QM
CPU Frequency 2.4-3.4GHZ
System Memory 16GB DDR3 1600MHz
Hard Drive 128GB mSATA + 750GB (7200RPM)
VRAM 4G GDDR5
Screen Size 17.3” Full HD Non Reflection
Resolution 1920x1080 16:9
Chipset HM77
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX675MX
Optical Drive BD Reader
LAN Killer Gaming Network
Wireless 802.11(b/g/n)
Bluetooth Yes
Wi-Di Yes
Card Reader SD/SDHC/SD/XC/XD/MSPRO/MS/MMC
VGA Yes
HDMI 1.4
USB 3.0 x 3
USB 2.0 x 2
Keyboard Steel Series Gaming (Backlit 102 keys)
Touchpad Multi Touch
Headset AMP+ Gold Flash Jacks
Speakers Dynaudio Tech Speakersx2 + Subwoofer
Webcam 720P HD Webcam
Battery 9 Cell
Warranty 1 Year Limited

 

Could you do me a favor and restart your computer and go to your BIOS and disable Speedstep technology and tell me how it performs?

 

Thinking to buy one these laptops, and I'm wondering build quality of those two. I'm leaning more forward to Msi cause of its gpu. Msi has gtx 680m and Samsung has gtx 675m. And Msi price $600 more. Do u think it's worth paying $600 more because of 680? And I think Msi has better build, better keyboard( steelseries ), better sound( dynaudio ), better screen( matte vs glossy) and better cooling. Is that really so? Or Samsung and Msi equal about these areas, and it's not worth $600 for 680m over 675m? Please help guys, I'm stuck now, please help me, thank you.

MSI GT70 0NE Specs ( $2400 )

CPU
Intel Core i7 3630QM 2.4 GHz
Chipset
Intel HM77 Chipset
Memory
16 GB DDR3 1600MHz
LCD Display
17.3" Anti glare full HD 1920x1080 LED backlight
Graphics
nVIDIA Geforce GTX680M 3D Graphic Card
Graphics VRAM
GDDR5 4 GB
HDD
128 GB SSD + 750 GB SATA 7200 RPM

Samsung NP700G7C ( $1800 )

CPU
Intel Core i7 3630QM 2.4 GHz
Chipset
Intel HM77 or 76 Chipset
Memory
8 GB DDR3 1600MHz
LCD Display
17.3" 400 NİT Glare HD 1920x1080 LED backlight
Graphics
nVIDIA Geforce GTX675M 3D Graphic Card
Graphics VRAM
GDDR5 2 GB
HDD
2*750 GB SATA 7200 RPM

 

I just tried it bud and it made no difference.

Do you know what the EC is? I have seen it talked about but mostly it was just telling people to update it.

 

It's the embedded controller firmware that sits alongside the bios and regulates power flow and fan speeds etc.

 

I heard the keyboard on the GT70 suffers ghosting horror issue? Is it true and can someone test the popular W-E-SPACEBAR, W-Q-SPACEBAR and W-Q-D combination. These three key combination are crucial for WoW and some other MMO and Counter-Strike.

 

As far as I know, every "gaming laptop" keyboard has subpar key rollover. I haven't heard many people complain about it on the MSI forum. "Ghosting horror issue" might be accurate for Clevo keyboards.

 

How about you try those 3 key combination i just mentioned if you can please

 

Hi pulled the trigger on this new laptop about 2 weeks ago and decided to get a SSD for this laptop. Got the Samsung 840pro 256gb but I cannot migrate the OS using the included software. Planning on still using the 750gb HDD for storage as a secondary drive but I get a External Exception E06D7363 error everytime I try to clone the drive. Anybody have the same issue when upgrading to a SSD. I would like to install a clean version of Win8 but I still need to figure out how to extract my OEM code out of this crappy OS. Any help would be appreciated.

 

wadqdw qdw qdww w w wq w q wqd Not sure I would test it but I have had no problems with it yet.


And that you Meaker for solving that little mystery for me.

 

AIDA64 will show you the Product ID OEM code under Operating System Properties - License Information.

 

I Google'd it for you yo! It was right here the whole time

http://forum.notebookreview.com/win...g-oem-windows-8-ssd-without-install-disc.html

 

HI All,

I hope this is the right place to post this.

I just bought a GT60 0ND model.

i've had it for a week and finally got around to installing some games but nothing seems to work.

ive tried
BF3
Counterstrike Source
Portal
I've even tried Demos like Heaven.

they all crash at load or shortly after loading (Counterstrike gets the furthest)

I've updated all the drivers even put on the latest bios but nothing fixes it.

My best guess is that the nvidia card isn't kicking in and the Intel HD4000 can't handle it and it craps out.

I finally resorted to doing a full reset (F3 at boot for windows 8)and trying a game with the vanilla build (i had only installed a few programs anyway) but this didn't help.

Has anybody else had similar issues and were you able to fix it?

p.s the Nvidia card is in device manager as normal no errors or anything..

**Update
I just thought i would try and force the laptop to use the Intel display to make sure that the switching wasn't the issue.

i ran heaven demo, forcing the intel display as primary and it actually worked (albeit jerky) so i am starting to think its not the laptop switching to the Nvidia card but the card itself having issues.

Thoughts ?

Jim

 

I've had a 0NC since July. I haven't had a good experience with it. Pretty much as soon as I get one thing sorted out, another pops up.

It started with the network card drivers blocking access to anything that used the Microsoft Live client. After a few weeks, new drivers were released that fixed that problem.

Then there were the various Optimus problems. Which might be what's happening to you. Sometimes they can be fixed by goiing to the nVidia control panel and forcing the use of the nVidia GPU for that program. Even then, DX10 games have issues with fullscreen so you may have to run them windowed. DX9 seems to be fine. DX11 has some minor issues, but generally works.

Then the system started overheating sometimes when I was gaming. It wasn't immediately apparent what the actual problem was, because the symptom was that the raid array would fail. It wasn't like I was overclocking anything; I haven't even used the Turbo Boost feature. Eventually I figured out that turning on the fan boost seemed to keep it from happening. I figured fine, I'll just always turn on the fan boost when gaming. Recently it started happening even with the fan boost with the USB ports failing at the same time as the raid array. Tried a thorough blowing out with canned air, but no luck.

So I contacted MSI through their warranty website. MSI told me I needed to replace the thermal compound on the heat sinks before they would consider an RMA. Of course doing that technically voids the warranty. They tell me they'll only enforce that if I mess something up in the process. I have a tube of IC Diamond on the way, so we'll see what happens.

I have to say this isn't what I expected when I spent $1600 on a laptop.

 

is it something 4K alignment issue? Check that with google....

 

Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum and looking forward on the GT70 series. Before giving out any note, i have some questions and see if any of you could give a help

1. Any one of you request for a Windows7 Home Premium installation instead of the pre-installed Win8, does the installation of win7 clean and smooth (hassle-free) ?
2. Does the mSATA port a SATA2 or SATA3 on GT70 ? Do MSI make the mSATA port by just putting a interface card along the SATA HDD bay? If running a fresh windows installation in future with RAID-0 setting, is it difficult to deal with the installation progress (in case if the mSATA interface card need an extra driver to drive before it can recognize a mSATA drive for installing a windows....)

Thank you so much!

 

1: http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/713299-gt70-one-44us-i-hate-windows-8-a.html

2: Primary SATA port is SATA 3 with a dual mSATA adapter:



the mSATA interface does not need extra driver during clean installation, it's the RAID controller needs driver:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?lang=eng&DwnldID=18668