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Mostly I've been playing Super Monday Night Combat and Bioshock Infinite. I haven't really had any problems with it at all like this. It hovers around 63C in SMNC, and around 68C in Bioshock. Enough so much that I'm happy. I'm sure if I threw in some higher capacity fans it would be even better. But as it stands, even my ambient temps have dropped a good 6C now. Normally I'm at around 36C or so just sitting at the desktop browsing forums. Sitting at 29C right this second.

If I get some time in the next day or so, I'll do that.

 

Does anyone play Planetside 2 on their GT60 or 70? If so, does PhysX work for you?

 

I've tryed to read all 176 pages, but WOW.

I have a GT70 0ND-492US with the GTX675 running Windows 8. (I know...I know, but it came preinstalled)
Is there a step by step guide somewhere on how to overclock this computer (CPU/GPU). I know I need to flash new bios, but WIndows 8 is being finicky about booting into dos.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

at some cost you can get svet to make you a custom bios unlocking nearly all features on the motherboard in msi hq forum, do not try to flash unlocked bios with the ending numbers 10x or 30x where x represents an english alphabet, since your bios is UEFI you have to flsh unlocked 50x or 70x where x repres... etc

before you do so check that your cpu is at least 3740qm, and install throttle stop or intel XTU(extreme tuning utility) to boost your clock by up to 400mhz(up to) and uncheck throttle stop's BD PROCHOT

to overclock GPU safely install afterburner to adjust your touch panel's turbo OC speed, alternatively use nvidia inspector to overclock further

disclaimer: I am not responsible for damage made to your system due to overclocking or providing information reguarding CPU/ GPU overclocking

 

Guys, I need help. I just got my GT60, I've down all my downloading and all games that I want are finally installed, but for some reason my GTX670M won't start working. Every game I try uses intel GPU. I can't see anything in nvidia control panel to force it, nothing in bios to force it... I'm at a loss. I just picked this up Saturday used... Guy didn't have any manuals or anything so I am not sure how Optimus works or much else. On my old laptop there was aFN+F6 to enable the dedicated GPU, but I'm going nuts here trying to fix this. Thanks for your help.

 

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Thanks!

Is there a thread that shows all the upgrades this laptop is capable of?

 

nope. but straight off my mind this laptop is officially capable of the following upgrades based on your configuration:

CPU: Intel Core i7 3630QM up to 3940XM
RAM: 32Gb DDR3 Ram, 8Gb each in 4 Ram slots
GPU: GTX670MX, GTX675M, GTX675MX, GTX680M and tested compatible with GTX780M
NO compatibility with AMD GPUs
HDD: any SATA SSD/HDD, no msata SSD due to the lack of super raid adapter
Optical Bay: BD RW or optical hdd bay caddy at sata 2 speeds
Any wireless card with 2 antennas namely killer 1102, 1202 and intel 6230
Self soldered 200+ W PSU, achievable by researching on AC adapter tip change/ cable swap
back panel hole mod for cooling (drill hole directly below heatsink fan, use 3M tape and stick a dust cover to improve air intake, P.S. warranty might be void due to this action)
Thermal paste change for cooling(if no warranty stickers are applied on the chasis you are allowed to without voiding your warranty)

 

Ok cool. That's quite a it of upgradability. I know I'm late to the GT-60 party, but oh we'll.

I think my CPU is plenty good enough for now, what I really want to do is add an ssd. Was thinking of cloning my C: drive to a Samsung 840 500GB SSD, think ill run into any issues? I am currently not seeing any benefit of the raid 0 setup cause my D: drive is empty at the moment...

 

Oh and buying another 4GB RAMmodule, cause that's an easy upgrade for ~$30

 

SSD should work perfectly

 

You don't want to clone a mechanical HDD onto an SSD. You'll have a bad time. Different organization structure used on each and every person I've heard of doing so ends in windows errors.

 

I would recommend not cloning windows too, installing a fresh copy of windows onto an SSD is the way to go, proper alignment and nearly optimized speed by default

 

Ahh ok. I think I have a key for Windows 7 Pro, I can easily get the .iso for that from Microsoft... You guys know of any way I can keep all my games? Takes forever downloading and updating them all fresh...

 

Depends on how you have them. If using steam, you can backup them to an external HDD. IF not, you will most likely need to reinstall/redownload. Some allow to copy paste the folders and relaunch the setup to install the registry but most don't.

 

I have installed the custom BIOS and flashed the Beta EC firmware.
But how do I adjust the touch panel's turbo OC speed? Have MSI Afterburner and nVidia Inspector installed. I have played with MSI afterbuner, and I see how to adjust the clock speeds, but how do I link it to the OC touch panel?

 

Looks like the RAID 0 has been partitioned in my particular laptop. The D drive was used for the Back-up image. Is there any way to create an image of this windows installation exactly as it is now (games and all) on a second hard drive ? I have the Aluratek Duplicator that I could use, or I would be willing to use some program that I had to pay for. I really just don't want to reinstall windows all over again and redownload all these games.

I never did say, I am coming from a Alienware M11x R1, which I loved.. finally decided to part with it when I saw someone locally selling for a great price ($850)

 

to make things clear, your so called D drive under raid 0 stores the data on BOTH HDD, raid 0 in simple terms split a single file in half and write them into each of the corresponding drives to achieve nearly double the read and write speed, if you remove any hdd thats a member of a raid volume you loose all your data. If you want to directly clone your volume onto an SSD, which most of us will not recommend you to do, you can use macrium reflect(free) to do it (since this is the only software I use),
install and run it (knew it), select the complete raid volume that you will be getting the partitions from, click on clone this disk and from there on you can select the partitons you want to clone which is the C drive and system reserved(don't ask why, it is just essential)

now to the prefered method, which is a complete clean install, my method for those who don't have an external hdd would be to purchase an external usb enclosure or optical bay caddy, completely power off your machine(plug and battery removed) and remove BOTH hdd from the hdd bay, install your SSD on the bay next to the GPU, power up and install clean copy of windows, proceed with installing all drivers etc and install steam, origin/ any game launching client
after you have done the following the trick would be to power off your computer completely again, take out the SSD an put it in an external enclosure, install BOTH hdd and boot into windows that are originally installed in the HDD, then copy all the client based games into the corresponding directory in the SSD in the external enclosure, once you verified all the data (not program) are no longer needed in the HDD you can then power off, remove one of the HDD and reinstall the SSD into the slot next to the GPU, boot up, press ctrl+ i to delete the raid volume and boot into the SSD windows, launch the steam/ origin client and install any games you copied(this step might be skipped if your copied game files are in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps as the client will automatically detect the games installed in there as default location)

easy? if you don't have an install disk you can always find a windows 7 iso on the internet and use windows 7 usb tool to make an install USB drive

 

I have trouble with that too, the OC touch panel is merely only forcing your GPU to manually run at P0 state, in which without the OC touch enabled you will be running at P1 state, P0 state is what the afterburner and inspector adjusts, so this means it adjusts the clock speed of P0 state ONLY, P1, P8 and P12 states are not adjusted meaning that if something goes wrong with the heating it is still capable of downclocking itself(?) you should be able to create a shortcut for the inspector with the desired clock speed, I suggest doing the touch panel OC and launching the shortcut to make things faster, alternatively you can flash some OC ready vbios, meaning that the default P0 speed, stored in the vbios, is adjusted to the desired clock by those who created the bios, this way the OC button, which sets the card to P0 state, with set the clock speed to the OC value stated in the vbios

 

So, if I understand you correctly.
I need to activate the OC on the touch panel AND run the shortcut created by nVidia Inspector. That way, if something goes sideways with the overclock GPU, I will be able to boot up into another GPU state (P8,P12) when the OC button in the touch panel is off.


Now to figure out why MSI Kombustor says that the GPU is throttling when running the benchmarks.

 

you don't have to boot to a GPU state, GPU state is decided by the driver, the OC touch panel only forces it to P0
so in normal situation: no load = P12
some load = P8
heavy load(gaming) = P1
OC touched = P0

the function of nvidia inspector:
MODIFY P0 clock speed

function of OC touch panel = force P0 state

so by clicking on inspector's OC ready shortcut you modified the P0 clock speed
after that by activating the OC touch panel, you set the GPU clock speed to what P0 is indicating, therefore the inspector's clock value
when system overheats your GPU load % will drop but not the P-state because you forced it with the OC touch button
when you deactivate OC touch you disable P0 state, so the nvidia driver cannot set the GPU to run at P0 state, thus it runs at P1 state
when you game without activating OC touch nvidia driver will set GPU speed to P1 speed, which is just 4% slower than stock P0 state and runs cool within the safe temperature zone that's verified by the manufacturer

 

Got it!!
Thanks for the explanation.

 

Can someone explain the turbo function to me? Like, what it does, how I enable it? I see the turbo indicator up by the dynaaudio logo, but have never seen it on.
Thanks

 

like I mentioned previously, the S-bar(windows 7), SCM(windows 8) and MSI VGA OVERCLOCK TOOL is only a tool to force P0 state on the GPU when the touch panel button is physically touched

if any of the following is faulty/ corrupted during installation/ not running at all
you will not be able to reach P0 state by activating the turbo button

the tray bar icon, however, has its options grayed out when the turbo button is not pressed
when the turbo button is pressed, however, the enable/disable option will not be grayed out just in case you touch panel went bad you still have a software method of turning the P0 state off

 

Where is the turbo button? What is the P0 state? I'm new to msi, so I need basics lol

 

turbo button indicated, P0 state is nothing for you to concern

basically install s-bar or scm for windows 7 or windows 8, install msi vga oc, press the turbo button when you want to squeeze more out of the GPU, and thats it, nothing more to understand

 

Why is P0 nothing for me to concern? I'm still not clear on where the actual turbo button is. I have S-bar installed...

 

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P0 is nothing for you to concern because you obviously haven't read through the previous replies I have made, and if you can't understand it there is no point for you to try since all you have to know is turbo button boosts your gameplay experience when enabled

 

Also for anyone here whose used the unlocked BIOS, I was wondering if any of you are interested in modding the raid option rom to 12.6, I am using an unlocked 10U at the mean time and just replaced the option rom to 12.6 after reading some guides.... the further modded bios flashed successfully on my system so yea(don't know if I'm allowed to share files here)

 

Found the stock Elixer 4GB 1600mhz sticks of RAM for sale here locally in japan for $30...

Now I'm at 16GB

 

Anyone know why, without Turbo enabled, my CPU is running constantly at 3.1GHz in CPU Z?

 

Your cpu is running in turbo mode for all cores. Check the windows task manager for software using it. There is something in the background forcing it to run full speed.

 

All I see is the VGA OC utility... Hmmm...

Got my GPU to OC using afterburner, max OC according to that, stable. 810mhz core, 1620 memory clock. Ran BF3 single player smooth as butter with a mix of High/Ultra at 65-75 FPS.

 

I am a "soon-to-be-owner-of-either-an-GT70 0NE-or-GT70 2OD". Can't wait. Just want to know the price of the 2OD and if it will be avaible in my country (The Netherlands), than I can decide.

 

The base price should be very close to the base launch price of the 0NE
however the top price should go over the top launch price of the 0NE by one extra msata SSD

 

Now that sounds freaking damn awesome! So I get a top of the line GPU that is like 30% faster than a 680M for only a €100 or so more? That's just amazing. Only need 1 SSD (will be my OS drive), so I gues the price shouldn't be higher that much.

 

You can also look at the barebone versions and get the value they offer if you want to change parts.

 

Problem is, they don't sell barebone versions in my country (atleast, not from MSI). Which indeed is a huge shame. Anyway, we'll see.

 

the barebones version are usually being sold by clevo resellers in your country so go check out their resellers in europe's thread in sager/clevo section of the forum

 

I know Sager is good, but I rather have MSI. Thanks for the help anyway!

 

i mean sager resellers sell msi barebone systems as well, not persuading you to go for a sager
alternatively of course you are free to spend more on the branded version of the GT70

 

Nono, I mean that all Sager resellers in The Netherlands, which are 2, don't sell MSI. Not even barebones.

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Then the retail with the global warranty is worth the extra most likely.

 

I just hope the GT70 2OD will come to Holland . If I am gonna order from America I have to pay huge taxes, shipping etc. , so that's a no-go for me.

 

Hey guys. I posted early about having wireless connection issues. Replaced the router with a newer Netgear AC router and that seemed to work out.

Anyways, I replaced my 3 ram modules with 2x 8gb corsair modules (I'm a little OCD and having 3 sticks of ram bugged me). I sold 2 of the Elixir locally and have one just sitting here collecting dust. If it would help anyone out, they could have it for dirt cheap.

Also, are there HDD brackets you could use to put a second harddrive in the other bay? I upgraded to a Momentus XT 750gb Hybrid HDD and thought about sticking the oem HDD in the other bay.

 

My GT60-2OC went to production yesterday. Should recieve in a week or two. First laptop in four years. First MSi too. All previous notebooks that I have owned had been Asus. I'm hoping my first experience with MSi will be a positive one. Can't wait!. The performance jump from my current desktop is just about 175%!! First time owning a SSD too. So, yeah, definitely looking forward to this. I would just love the fact that I can take this to all my friends house to play together and not have to sacrifice gaming performance. Hating that about my desktop atm. Currently holding the urge to play some of the games that I bought. Crysis 3, bioshock, ......etc.....

 

Want to ask about GT60 with GTX 680m. Can I completely disable nvidia optimus in bios?

 

Why do you want to disable it?
From what i have heard so far, optimus works quiet properly. It saves energy, makes your laptop stay calm in idle, and if optimus does not detect a game (so the internal gpu stays active), you can just add this game manually to the nvidia program to use the Dedicated GPU. So you can always chose what to run on the dedicated gpu or the internal gpu :thumbsup:

 

I need it for linux computing...