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    The Official MSI GT60 & GT70 Owners' Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by ViciousXUSMC, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. omega939

    omega939 Notebook Evangelist

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    I hope you get one GT60 (16F3) with 51x bios to verify the compatibility of this card soon.. Thanks in advance
     
  2. omega939

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    A merchant offered me to return the item once the gtx 980/970m is not working on my GT60 (16F3). Is it a good deal? one thing though... i dont have a heatsink compatible with the new gpu.. Anybody out there who could help me find one heatsink for this GPU 980/970m? thanks
     
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    I need the heatsink only not the whole notebook
     
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    I have recently purchased two GT60 Dominator laptops (870m version), and I have a question about the physical power button light. First, I am already aware of the fact that the light is white when using the integrated GPU and orange when using the dedicated Nvidia GPU. However, I am experiencing two different scenarios with two identical laptops.

    Laptop A: When the laptop has been shutdown and is off, the physical power button light is off.
    Laptop B: When the laptop has been shutdown and is off, the physical power button is a light orange (lighter than it is when powered on and using the Nvidia graphics).

    I would like to know which laptop is normal and which one is defective.

    In case I am not being coherent enough in my inquiry, I am talking about the actual power button you press to turn on the laptop, not the status LED indicators under the touchpad.

    I would greatly appreciate it if someone could kindly chime in on whether or not their power button on their GT60/GT70 Dominator is lit orange or off when the computer is completely shutdown. Thank you.
     
  6. masterlink2002

    masterlink2002 Notebook Consultant

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    I haven't had the money to buy the card yet to try i will be once i have the cash. if you manage can you pm me with what you did. I'm broke til after xmas but itching to do this
     
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    How can I remove HDD caddy? I have MSI GT70 barebone and I replaced DVD bay with a HDD caddy. I want to remove it but I can't. HDD works caddy with no problems but for some reason I think my montage to HDD is not very stable so I want to remove and remontage it. Has anyone tried to remove it?
     
  8. Coca

    Coca Notebook Consultant

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    Hello ! Need advice and help !

    new laptop MSI GT70 2PE (latest bios, ec, vbios), problem : Nvidia 880m during gaming high temps up to 88c. Did repaste with IC Diamond and still same 88c. Dont know what to do, is this temps very bad?
     
  9. Talon

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    The 880m is a hot box, warmer than even my old 780m. I would run intensive games like BF4 with Turbo Fan On. Make sure the laptop is on a flat surface, with the back elevated, and probably use a laptop cooler.
     
  10. Coca

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    laptop is on a flat surface and elevated ! I dont use this turbo fan ,cause very loud sound and I think cooler will die very quick on max rpm :(
     
  11. Talon

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    Most games shouldn't heat you laptop to 88C on stock fan profiles, I noticed it got quite warm like that on BF4 with my old card.

    If you're running a demanding game like that, well you pretty much have 3 options. Run the laptop with stock fan profiles, or run the laptop with max turbo fans, or you could download davepearson' s GT70 (also works on GT60) fan tool. The fan tool will allow you to set an exact percentage other than 100% turbo fan. Maybe 80% max fan speed would be adequate to keep the temps under control but lower the noise level a bit. But agreed turbo fan is pretty noisy, unless you're wearing headphones.
     
  12. Coca

    Coca Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you Talon, I will try set fans to 75-80%
     
  13. zipperi

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    I find even 60% is mostly enough to get rid of tiny slowdowns that do exist with the automatic setting on my GT70 GTX 680M.
     
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    If you repad (0.5mm) and repaste you can help reduce the RPM needed too.
     
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    Anyone tried putting a clevo geforce 780m in their gt70? i am looking at one but i need advice on getting it to work
     
  16. Talon

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    Clevo tends to work in MSI. Not sure about 780m though. It should, and then you might be able to flash MSI vBios to the Clevo card.

    How much is the 780m?
     
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    Yes the clevo card works. Just be aware of having the right system bios and that you have a 3rd gen i7 cpu capable system at least.
     
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    Any suggestions on a more powerful psu for my ivy bridge?
     
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    I'm getting a complete clevo for 300 I was just gonna scoop the gpu and eBay the rest to break even
     
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    Take a dell 240w slim brick and follow my old psu mod guide.
     
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    dale350zman Notebook Evangelist

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    Brilliant, thank you.
     
  22. goodspeed(TPF)

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    Werd. :) It's 1:39 AM!!!
     
  23. everythingsablur

    everythingsablur Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi Meaker,

    Why a 3rd gen i7 out of curiousity? Is there a technical reason for this? The German forum poster who got a 970m into a 1761 appeared to be using an i7-2670qm in his benchmarks. I'd love to do this to my GT780 which is running an i7-2630qm. First (I think) I've seen of a CPU recommendation/limitation.
     
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    The discussion was about the 780M.
     
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    everythingsablur Notebook Evangelist

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    Whoops! My bad. Didn't read back far enough for context. Thanks for the clarification!
     
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    Not a problem, the 970M would be a very nice upgrade yes :)
     
  27. Kazuhara

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    Hi guys, I'd like to ask if it's possible to clean my MSI GT60-0nc keyboard. Bought mine last 2012 and I feel that it's already too dusty underneath it. Any procedure on cleaning the keyboard? Thanks! :)
     
  28. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Compressed air is usually the best method.
     
  29. dale350zman

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    Iv got the psu just not got around to modding it due to I don't have a bloody hollow torx driver.
     
  30. bilalbm

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    Hello everyone,

    I recently bought a MSI GT60 2PC but was having trouble with the fan. I posted this earlier and asked for repair. After the 3rd unsuccesful attempt to repair it, they have offered me a replacement laptop a MSI GS60 2PE. I was hoping I could get your opinions on this new offered replacement, if it is better or not.

    I made a comparison table below since I have nothing to do at work and its a Friday. In a nutshell, the new one has a slightly less efficient processor (would not be a bottleneck though), 2 slots of RAM instead of 4, no optical drive and a 6 cell battery compared to previous 9 cell. It also comes with 2 mSATA slots and 1 SATA slot. They are offering 128GB mSATA + 1TB 7200rpm SATA drive with it. In the previous laptop I had 2 SATA slots and they had given me a 1TB 7200 SATA drive. I had put in my own 256 GB SSD (samsung 840) which I used to install the OS/programs on, which is now currently sitting on the desk.

    The replacement model is thinner and has two cooling fans, although not sure how good it will be at cooling since it is more compact. Anyone has an idea? I do not carry the laptop around so much so size was not originally an issue when i bought the old laptop. Do you guys think this is a fair trade or should I ask for another offer?

    Also I barely used the old laptop since it was a day one issue.

    PREVIOUS: GT60 2PC-460XFR
    MSI Global GT60 2PC Dominator


    NEW OFFERED: GS60 2PE-063XFR
    MSI Global GS60 2PE Ghost Pro

    COMPARISON TABLE

    Comparision table.PNG
     
  31. ThorofAsgard

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    Recently got a GT70, and it seems to work excellent overall, but once it switches to Nvidia graphics for my game, it never switches back after the game is closed. I've tried killing numerous processes to find the culprit, but no luck. It will stay set on Nvidia graphics until I reboot.

    The Nvidia control panel is set to auto-select between GPU/IGP.

    Anyone experience this and find a solution?
     
  32. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    It's not an equivalent replacement.
    GT is premium gaming and GS is portable gaming.
    The CPU in the GS is weaker than GT, with the same GPU.
    The performance score on the GS will be lower than GT.
    Best to counter-argue about these points.
     
  33. bilalbm

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    Thanks for the reply. I was thinking of same thing and have asked for alternative options. I was tempted by the sleeker version but after a youtube binge, the size does not seem to have much of a difference.

    What do you think of a GS60 though? Your signature says that you own one.
     
  34. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    The models in the signature are review videos. I have a GT70 2OE.
    I prefer gaming without limitation so GS60 is not good enough for me. :)
     
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    The GS is the best you will get in a thin and light machine, if that's the form factor you need you wont be dissapointed. However yes the GT series has that extra room for more power and storage.
     
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    As well as a better cooling system and a better speaker system. It really is the "premium gaming" system from MSI. But again, and to concur with Meaker, if portability is your goal, the GS ─ although it sacrifices some of these things ─ it's definitely worth consideration.
     
  37. Talon

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    No way I would take that GS60 with an 870m. I herd that thing throttles due to thermals. A problem you won't encounter with the GT60 870m model. If anything I would be asking for a GT60 1065 model. The 970m which be an excellent upgrade and won't throttle. In addition to other points made by other users the GT60 can be upgraded in both the CPU and GPU department and offers easier maintenance.

    They shouldn't argue with you on that as thy bith cost roughly the same as far as I know. And you purchased a GT model not a GS model.
     
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    is that an ivy bridge or haswell processor?
     
  39. omega939

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    This is the why my 970m cant start..
    nvidia drivers.jpg

    Updated the intel chipset 4000 with the latest one and inf7 drivers too...
     
  40. Meaker@Sager

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    I'm a little confused, when setting the application to use the integrated graphics the settings are dictated by the intel control panel settings since the intelchip is rendering the image. That's true for all optimus machines and how it should be.
     
  41. Jerry0o8

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    Maeker, I am having trouble with my msi gt60 0nd. originally with the gtx 675m. I upgraded it to the gtx 780m. It installs and works fine, but the only problem is when I game, the gpu only gets about 50% working and the game lags. I have to turn on Throttle Stop and disable BD PROCHOT for the gpu to be working 100%. Other than that the 780m runs great. my bios right now is not the .10p or the .30p. I tried flashing to the .10p but for some reason when i flash, it says "ERROR: PROBLEM GETTING FLASH INFORMATION" and cannot flash to .10p. Please help? I hate having to turn on throttle stop to run 100% gpu power. I got the i7-3820qm and 16 gb of ram. Any ideas on how to flash the bios properly?
     
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    That sounds like a CPU issue, have you checked the temperatures on it? Are you running in high performance mode?
     
  43. Jerry0o8

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    Hi Maeker,
    First of all thank you for the response. And Yes everything is on high performance. I set the gpu to be in use all the time as well. I also read somewhere that it is the bios making the gpu and cpu not communicating well that's why it gets limited until i turn off the BD PROCHOT? I really want to flash the .10p bios but I keep getting that error. Any ideas? If its a CPU issue, what do you suggest? I read somewhere that you said the gtx 780m only works well with the .10p or .30p bios too correct?
     
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    Also, the gtx 780m came with the BRIDGED heatsink (I think it sucks and makes my laptop temperature overall hotter). My cpu temps are hotter than my gt60 barebone without the bridged heatsink (I have two laptops so i can compare temps). The gt60 barebones has the gtx 675m with no bridge and it idles and max temps are cooler than the gt60 with the 780m on idle. the bridged gets my cpu idling at 50 while the none bridge idles at 40s. So yeah the cpu on the 780m is hotter, I have repasted and checked the thermal pads twice as well. No help so I am assuming the gpu bridged to the cpu is just not a better cooling solution.
     
  45. Jerry0o8

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    Maeker I just notice you work at Powerbotebooks.com which is where I bought my gtx 780m, so I am a customer! lol. I have been currently talking to ZOLTAN for the past week and a half and yet no resolution yet. Please I hope you can help.
     
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    Ok the bios is actually for the generation of models before yours. Your model should support it out of the box.

    Try flashing the latest bios for your model instead from MSI.
     
  47. Jerry0o8

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    Hi Maeker,

    Okay so the gt60 0nd-250us already supports the 780m with no problem? If that is the case then that's perfect. Now would I update the bios for the gt60 that came with the gtx780m stock? Or download the bios that comes with the gtx 675m stock (which is mine). And right now the bios download from the msi gt60 0nd website is down, the page does not load up at all
     
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    The GT60 0ND series should, the 680M came a little later with an update though so yes your bios may just need that update, it's worth a try. So long as the system is the same CPU and chipset generation you can flash the bios.
     
  49. Jerry0o8

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    okay, thank you Maeker, I will try that. Do you happen to have the bios version for me? Seems like the msi gt60 0nd drivers and download page has not been working for me for the past 2 weeks. Can you check if it can load if you open this web? http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GT60-0ND.html
     
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    Hey Meaker, just to clarify, would I update the bios from the gt60 0nd or from the gt602od since the 2od comes with the 780m stock, but also with 4th gen Intel processor. I'm guessing the 0nd only?
     
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