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    The Official MSI GT60 & GT70 Owners' Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by ViciousXUSMC, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. rmacgregor9

    rmacgregor9 Notebook Enthusiast

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    no ideas eh?
    :(
    tomorrow i will pull the motherboard out and do a on the table test for grounding, otherwise i am stumped unless its a short in the GTX, most the research i have done indicates it will normally boot with a dead card just not recognize it, seems like a short to me. it even messes up the power brick temporarily some times i have to unplug it for a few seconds before using it again after removing the GPU, what a pain in the backside.
     
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    Best to let MSI's repair team to handle the issue because if there are more stuff that broke down then the repair cost will be higher.
     
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    oh this things quite out of warranty and i am more than capable of teardown and buildup , i actually put this new motherboard in myself its a Medion x682x board MS16-F31. was just hoping another user had run into the issue and had something simple i was overlooking specific to the model.

    it very well could be the second graphics card i got was a dud, that is sometimes what you get doing kijiji and craigslist sometimes, luckly he threw in an I7 i can flip to cover the cost i paid and then some. I probably should of taken it with me and quickly tested.
     
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    This unit will allow boot using the Intel HD graphics without the discrete GPU card.
    Have you tried it?
     
  5. rmacgregor9

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    Yeah it boots fine in that sense and is how i have been using it but add a gpu it won't even spin the fans, maybe it's a dud hard to find another for testing.
     
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    Hey guys, I have a question regarding a SSD upgrade.

    My brother has a GT60 Dominator, and I have a GT70 Dominator. He has only a HDD whilst I have a HDD plus a SSD (120gb). We both live in Brazil, and my wife is going to US for a week, so I was hoping she could bring a SSD for both of us (the following model: SSD San Disk 240gb http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk...lack/3075012.p?id=1219570102967&skuId=3075012).
    Will it be compatible for both notebooks? Do I have to buy any cable or something like that? For my GT70, can I keep 2 SSDs and a HDD?

    ps.: I tried to search for a similar question in the forum, but didn't find. My bad if there is anything similar to it already.
     
  7. FKGreen

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    All good day ! The guys tell me what version of firmware is best to put on my GT70 0nd? heard about the updated version of the T.24, just where to find it ?
     
  8. Nessaja

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    It runs games fine with the card, either HD4000 or the 670. But it shuts down after a while even while temps are low anything from 30-40C idle or 50-70C while gaming. Problem is it still acts like this if I remove the card hence why I wonder if the motherboard is borked or maybe the CPU is? Again, the fan issue stays even when I remove the MXM card.
     
  9. rmacgregor9

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    your not by chance hitting the fan icon on the top panel to the left of your power button? also it recognizes the GTX when this is occurring in device manager and well gaming your power light switches to orange?

    unless perhaps the settings for temperature are configured oddly in your bios i am not sure off hand.
     
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    each GT60/GT70 should have room for two 2.5 inch hard drives with a sata interface, no special connectors are required but i would probably just stick to a single SSD + a storage drive in each system, you will not gain much in the way of performance of having a pair of SSD's even in raid 0, you may see better benchmarks but real world performance increase is nominal.
     
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    Are you using the original AC adapter? Can you check if there's any voltage output when the system stopped working?
     
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    That's a good place to check also. I'm suspecting a board or firmware problem, given the included issue with the fans.
     
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    Does anyone know if the GT70 0ND has a SATA3 connection for its DVD drive? I am thinking of putting an HD caddy in the place of the optical drive, as I want to install a 3rd SSD for video rendering.

    Sorry if this has been asked before.

    Thanks.
     
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    No, SATA1. 0Nx series do have just one SATA3.
     
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    Hi all.
    Please help me in resolving issue that all Haswell-based G-series laptops probably have no RAID1 and RAID10 support. I need some information from owners of Ivy Bridge-based machines with RAID enabled in BIOS. Please access "Intel RST Feature Capabilites" register using RWEverything, as shown on this video , and post a screen with last window, model of your notebook, BIOS and EC firmware versions.

    Many thanks, Evgeny.
     
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    Suggest to use USB 3.0 port for video rendering instead.
     
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    Guys , I can tell I reflash the BIOS version of 51x , 50x on?
     
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    Hey guys, I have a GT60 and always had a problem with fan noise. Not loud fan, but a whizzing screeching sound that comes from the fan when being used at low speeds.

    RMA and replacement of fans by MSI never helped. Now i am out of warranty and this noise still annoys me.

    I decided that might have a go at replacing the fan myself. I thought about greasing it but I guess that would be a short term solution.

    Does anyone here recommend a fan, where to buy from. I found some from ebay for around 15 to 20 euros. (I am in France)

    Search link: http://www.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_odkw...Xmsi+fan+gt60.TRS0&_nkw=msi+fan+gt60&_sacat=0
    Individual links:
    1. http://www.ebay.fr/itm/MSI-Lufter-K...040094?hash=item4193b5cf5e:g:hQ0AAOSwRLZT11b1
    2. http://www.ebay.fr/itm/New-for-MSI-...113025?hash=item33a3b88d01:g:qzIAAOSwd0BVsZQg

    I would like your guys opinions, is it a good idea? Any other brand fan that could work better?

    Have already cleaned it out and noise still is there. Is a damn high pitch sound that just makes me not want to use my laptop :(
     
  19. dmaker

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    Need some help here, folks.

    I recently purchased a GT72S-QFE, and I love it. I am getting my GT70-ONE ready for a potential Kijijjii buyer. Tonight I went to install a fresh copy of Windows 10 and now I am kind of screwed. I cannot install Windows 10, or 8, or 7 to the Intel RAID0 volume. Windows will go through the setup, copy files, then reboot right back into setup and then at the volume selection, it will say it cannot install to the raid volume and then something about making sure the disk is supported in the bios. Well, the only bios options are, of course, IDE AHCI and RAID. So, I can't really change anything there. I event tried removing the RAID volume and recreating it...no luck. I have confirmed that it is marked as bootable. I am at the end of my rope. I have someone interested in buying this for $900, but I would really like to get an OS on there. Otherwise, the buyer will most likely run into the same issue and think I ripped him off or something.

    Any suggestions?


    Thanks!!
     
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    Yeah, that is what I was thinking as well. I haven't done an F6 driver injection since the days of NT 4 and floppy disks. When would you even know to press F6 in a modern Windows setup? The funny part is that it sees the volume, it will copy the Windows setup files to it, then reboot. But instead of proceeding with the finalization of the Windows setup, it goes right back to the beginning of setup, and then on the disk selection screen it still shows the raid volume, but then says Windows cannot install to it. So the drivers must be there, I am thinking.
     
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    Hmmm, the Intel Rapid Storage drivers from that website are an .exe file that wants to install in a Windows environment. How would I use that to get drivers injected into a Windows setup process?
     
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    I guess maybe I could install Windows to the 750GB mechanical drive and then use the Intel RST drivers to format the raid volume, and then possibly leave it at that. The new owner can be sure to install important games to the SSD volume. It would suck a bit not having Windows on the raid volume. OR I could then try Windows setup again after formatting the raid volume within Windows and see if the setup will see it that way.

    This is all very frustrating and odd. I have had Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 on this laptop at various times and have never had an issue with setup seeing the raid volume. Yesterday, I format the raid volume with Windows 10 setup and then after the reboot now I cannot get any version of Windows setup to see the volume. Argg!
     
  24. EchoWars

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    Wish I knew the answer...my Google-fu failed me WRT Windows 10, and I haven't had to face the battle that you are facing.

    Did you already use a partition tool to totally blast away the original partitions before loading Windows? Just curious.
     
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    You need the INF version of Intel RST driver otherwise the installation will fail.
    Try this package [ here].
     
  26. dmaker

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    Thanks for the response guys.

    @EchoWars,
    I just used Windows setup to format the drive. Which it did fine and then copied files and then rebooted and decided, nope, it didn't like the volume any longer.

    @Kevin, are you saying the inf version is needed post Windows install, or would I be able to F6 that into a Windows setup session? Ideally, I would just like to install Windows on the current raid volume and be done with it. I don't understand why it won't do that any longer. It worked fine in the past.
     
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    You have to do F6 to load it prior to the installation.
     
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    Thank you, Kevin. I have never done an F6 driver load on a modern Windows setup. At which point do I hit F6 and load the driver?
     
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    Sorry to be a pest. I did manage to figure out when to hit F6, but it says the drivers are unsigned, and won't use them.
     
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    Found signed drivers here, now I have to figure out which one to use, as it presents quite a few to choose from.
     
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    I'm starting to lose my mind with this thing. If I check hide drivers that are not compatible with my hardware, then setup selects only one driver( iaStorAC.inf), I click Next, it installs the driver, and then tells me,nope, it still won't install to that disk for the same reasons. If I uncheck hide incompatible drivers, I get a long list of drivers to try. I have no idea which one to select, however. Intel 100, Intel 6thGen, 8 Series, 9 Series, etc..

    This is becoming quite a frustrating nightmare.
     
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    So it puts you back here?
    Edit: You got nothing to lose here...download a free copy of Partition Wizard, nuke every partition, then start over with the F6 install and see WTF.
     
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    OK...try this. Blast the partitions as above.

    Win10 install from a DVD-ROM, both 32-bit and 64-bit Intel RST signed drivers on a thumbdrive. Label the folders on the drive so you know what's what. Leave the thumbdrive disconnected till needed.

    Set SATA controller to RAID, primary boot to the DVD-ROM, disconnect any drive that you do not plan on installing the op-system to. Boot the DVD-ROM. You should go straight to the OS install menu, choose the one you want, and choose 'Custom' install. Now pop in the thumbdrive and browse to the 32 bit drivers. After they load, you will (hopefully) see the RAID array. Now, click on Load Driver and select the 64-bit drivers.

    If luck is with you, then the install will take off from there.
     
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    Almost exactly that. It reboots and then at volume selection it says it cannot install because it doesn't believe it is bootable and recommends to confirm that in the bios. I have confirmed in the raid controller that the volume is set to be bootable and in the bios it is included in the boot order right after the usb key that I am attempting to install from.

    I'll try the other suggestions later tonight when I get home.

    Thank-you for all the helpful suggestions, folks.
     
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    Is Partition Tool bootable? I don't have a working Windows environment to run a program right now on this laptop.
     
  38. EchoWars

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    Yes. It runs a small Linux distro. No Windows needed.
     
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    That's good to hear. In cases where it doesn't, at least there's the Live session option to run the bare essentials.
     
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    I've booted with partition wizard and marked both ssd drives as GPT, as well as the 750GB mechanical drive. I then had to recreate the array using Ctlr-I and am now running Windows 10 setup again. It allowed me to select the raid array and is now copying files to it. This is not greatly encouraging as it would always do this initially. It was on the next reboot that it would just go right back into Windows setup and then at volume selection decide that it no longer likes the raid array. Fingers are crossed it works this time. I have someone eager to buy it and willing to pay $800. He wants Windows 10 on it though, and the unfortunate thing is that I can't really spend oodles of time on this right now. I am writing a Cisco CCNP exam on Thursday, and I really need to spend all my time prepping for that, not fighting with Windows setup on a perfectly healthy pile of hardware.
     
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    Yeah, it did it again. It just goes right back to the start of Windows setup because, while it can write to the array, it thinks it cannot boot from it for some reason. I really don't have anymore options. I don't understand this. Windows 10 was booting fine from this array before I decided to do a fresh install. I guess I will have to try to install Windows on the mechanical drive for now.
     
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    Actually, I think it may have worked this time. I took the Windows 10 bootable thumb drive out and it continued properly with Windows setup. I've never had to do that in the past. Setup has always marked the install volume as top of the boot order on its own. I guess it didn't this time....?


    Yeah, it's working fine now. Windows 10 is installed to the raid array and I am currently updating drivers. Finally, :) Now I can get back to focusing on my CCNP-SWITCH exam.
     
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    Huh - I had a similar issue when installing 8.0. Stupid Windows began a new install a couple of times until I realized what's happening and removed the source disk. Got several Windows.old folders...
     
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    So...you did NOT have to fuss with installing 32-bit drivers...the whole issue was that the installer saw the thumbdrive and gave up on the raid array?

    If I have that wrong, straighten me out.
     
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    I'm not sure. I do think using partition wizard to change the disks to GPT was necessary, but early last week I removed the thumbdrive at the first Windows setup once ( Windows 7 that time) and the install failed asking for a bootable drive. So, I'm not sure. I do think my assumption that Windows setup would continue on the first reboot and select the proper volume to boot from did lead to most of these problems, and then my corrective measures just compounded things. As I said before, I have never known Windows setup to require me to remove the thumbdrive for it to proceed properly. I will have to bear that in mind for the next time I find myself needed to format a physical computer.

    I did not have to fuss with 32 bit drivers, that is certain. In fact, from the link you provided, the setup would not even see the 32 bit drivers, it only saw drivers in the 64 bit folder.
     
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    Guys , tell me what the best firmware for the model GT70 0nd use and if you can give a link where to get or who have Attach file .
     
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    Anyone willing to upload a picture of their original battery or just tell me what language they see right below the rating? I have two batteries and I can't figure out which is the original it is driving me nuts! I have a GT60.
     
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    This is the original battery from my GT70, purchased in the U.S.

    20160823_133351.jpg
     
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    @1shado1
    Thank you so much for taking the time you upload that for me. Big help!
     
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    You're welcome. :)
     
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