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No Optimus. And @Phoenix has a handy driver thingy


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You need all the MSI drivers and applications for DGC to provide all it offers, if you want DGC, otherwise uninstall DGC and install XTU, MSI Afterburner, leave out Truecolor - ick, and you need SCM for activating the GPU switch - no optimus - you switch between dGPU and iGPU by rebooting, SSE for keyboard control, etc.
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GT73VR-6RF-Titan-Pro.html#down-utility&Win10 64
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GT73VR-7RF-Titan-Pro.html#down-utility&Win10 64

 

MSI does a better solution than Optimus

MSI has a GPU switch next to the power switch, hit it and a dialog pops up to confirm rebooting to switch to either iGPU (intel) or dGPU (nvidia).

That way when you are on your desktop plugged in to AC you can use dGPU and completely power off the soul stealing power and performance sucking Intel iGPU - it takes power and thermal headroom from the CPU in the same carrier.

And, when you want longer battery life when you are away from AC, reboot into iGPU before powering off to travel

 

The most time efficient way to run on an MSI laptop is using the original OS install out of the box, and disable startup of the tools you don't want, or uninstall them.

If you try to recreate MSI's hard work by re-rolling an OS install on your own, you may not be able to recreate the form and function of what you had out of the box - and you will waste many good gaming hours working on the OS instead.

If you haven't completely blown away the MSI install yet, then use MSI BurnRecovery to make a 32GB USB 3.0 boot recovery flash drive so when worst comes to worst, you can restore back to the out of the box MSI OS image.

If you already blew away the OS, and lost the recovery partition, then you are on your own completely. MSI can't send you a restore flash drive, and they won't let you just send in the SSD/disk for reloading, you need to RMA the whole laptop.

If you can find a ( friend or ) a brick and mortar store with your model on display, you can buy a 32GB flash drive from them and ask nicely if you can create the recovery boot flash drive from their laptop - don't worry about their messed with desktop - the recovery drive is unchanged and preserved.

 

Damn son.

Keys to life:

1. Take the $680
2. Buy a flawless version of the screen
3. Replace it yourself.
4. Literally profit.

 

Is it normal to have 100% though. Ever since I've gotten the laptop, every time I plugged it in, it always gets charged up to the full 100%. I've read a lot of times that the battery will only get charged up to a certain % and will say plugged in but not charging. I've tried draining the battery to 70% then charging again but it always goes to 100% and never goes down if it's still plugged in. This is becoming a problem because I've checked the Wear Level of my battery once through HWiNFO64 and saw 4.2% when I've only used it for less than a week (I've checked the wear level now, it's just 1.7%). Is this normal? Will this shorten the life of my battery? Thanks!

 

It varies over time, I've had 100% charge for over a week before, so don't worry about it.

Have you run MSI battery calibration to completion? I wouldn't waste time doing it if you haven't

Wear level is simply the difference between estimated battery capacity as set by the manufacturer and the actual observed / measure capacity at this point in time.

"Wear level" will vary due to temperature, rate of charge, charge from empty / full, and gravity influenced by phase of the moon.

No need to get obsessive about checking it, as it will eventually settle, and *highly* unlikely to be a problem - very few report bad batteries at purchase or anytime within the lifetime of the first owner.

I wouldn't even worry about 100% charge, let it do it's thing - you can't influence it by watching it

 

Thanks man, this is very helpful! Nope, I didn't do battery calibration as I have no patience for it LOL . Btw, I want to ask if I have the latest BIOS for the MSI GT73VR 6RF. I have the E17A1IMS.107 version while there is a E17A1IMS.10A version in MSI page. Are these 2 the same? Thanks!

 

Using hexadecimal numbering, an A is higher than a 7, as an A in hexadecimal is = 10 in decimal, and 7 is 7 in both hexadecimal and decimal

But, I wouldn't be so quick to upgrade firmware, most of my experience shows that MSI / Asus lock *down* performance with BIOS updates - people complain about "hot" CPU's, and so performance is dropped.

I'd live on the firmware it came with for now, you have 2+ years of warranty left to update to a new BIOS / vbios.

If things are running fine, there isn't enough upside to fiddle with the firmware

 

Was this an Amazon warehouse buy or just regular Amazon?

 

poop poop poop poop poop poop poop poop poop!!!!!! I had to though it only came with an HDD at 7200rpm soooooo slow i mean how did we use those HDD before.

 

What is DGC, I did not see that on any of the options? I have the SCM on my desktop and when I open it there is no option for the GPU switch just wife bluetooth ex..

 

The switch between igpu and dgpu is a switch right below the power button ... if u look closely, there is a GPU symbol next to it...

DGC is the Dragon Centre... find a red icon on the tray or search via cortana

 

If I read between the poop's correctly, you put in another drive, an SSD to replace the HDD that was the boot drive?

Did you create the BurnRecovery flash drive before blowing away the HDD recovery image / partition?

If you just pulled out the HDD for being too slow - which is what I do - I put it on the shelf so I have it as an OOB backup for later - you can then put it back in and boot from it to create the MSI BurnRecovery flash boot recovery to restore to the new SSD the out of the box OS

 

DGC => MSI Dragon Gaming Center.

You switch GPU's via the physical switch next to the power switch, then confirm via the dialog that SCM brings up, and it reboots into the other GPU.

 

Hi guys,

Bought a GT73VR 6RF TITAN PRO in Nov. have been following this thread since Sept. It's great to have all u guys with so much experience and knowledge. I have great admiration for all u folks. this laptop is one heck of a machine. feel so happy being on this forum. I joined NBR and I'm super excited abt the info here. I live on a remote farmland, and I need to keep my laptop moving into and out of the bag. The main issue I have is dust collection. I clean the inside one in 2 months. I'm on stock paste. I have ambient temp exceeding 25℃ . My gaming performance is nothing to complain about on ultra settings... temp of gpu stays below 75° even after OC in DGC . Should/when do I replace the paste?

 

Yes I have the original windows wooohooo



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Oh I'm soooo lucky


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Good, now you can create that MSI BurnRecovery 32GB flash boot recovery drive to keep long term, then you can use that USB flash boot recovery drive you created to restore the original OS to the new SSD / boot drive and disable what you don't want, OS install job over, game on

 

Welcome to NBR

Your GPU temp looks nice and low, nothing to worry about. What is your CPU temp under gaming load? You didn't mention it so perhaps you think it's fine as is, and that's great.

Unless you are using this in the barn I wouldn't worry about dust, if you have a normal home in a rural area the MSI fans should take care of cycling that kind of dirt, fine bunny dust is something else.

You can get mesh covers, or make your own, to cover the intake vents on the bottom, and that would block most / enough of the dust so as to not need to open it up for cleaning very often.

I haven't found dust in my laptops ever, but I have pulled apart laptops and rarely found dust bunny's - so it is environmental, and not wide spread.

This company has been around a long time and makes nice custom fitted covers, but you could just as well tape mesh over the vents on the outside, or pop the bottom cover and spread mesh over the vent holes inside.
http://www.demcifilter.com/c218/Laptop-Dust-Filters.aspx

 

My CPU temps are 70℃~ . I have set my fans on advanced tab to spin around 3000rpm for both CPU and gpu ...

I live in a studio 10x20 feet house, in the midst of a dusty farm. I have 2 dogs who bring in their share of dust. Hence, the laptop goes into the sleeve/bag when not in use. I'll go ahead with a mesh I can source locally. I have an idea. Will post pics when done. Thanks @hmscott

 

Hi,

It seems my issue is fixed. Thank you again,
You keep helping me years after years

 

Glad to hear you got it resolved, sometimes just stating the problem and putting it out there gets things moving in our minds to help solve the problem without additional help.

Good to see you again, and have fun

 

Can I use 2 different networks simultaneously for better speed

one connected via Ethernet
2nd connected via WIFI

If yes, do I need any type of setting in killer wireless suite or it will take care of settings by itself...?

 

http://www.killernetworking.com/technology/killer-double-shot-pro

MSI GT73VR have Killer Double Shot Pro. So Answer should be yes.

They give some information about it. Seems like it'll take care of settings by itself but it's tunable

In E2400 page : "Use killer Ethernet and killer wifi together for throughput up to 1.867Gbps"

 

A replacement laptop has been processed for me and will be dispatched hopefully soon.

It is a very small pixel and probably would not bother many users, however for myself I want a perfect product for this price.

But at least I have tried out Rise of The Tomb Raider and holy hell this machine rocks! Much better compared to a Clevo P775DM3-G!
CPU and GPU are the same performance as the Clevo (7820hk @ 4.0Ghz vs 6700K @ 4.0 Ghz), however 10C cooler with auto fan compared to P775DM3-G max fans. Clevo max GPU temp 86-88C (with unlocked FPS), MSI max temp 78C.Also holy sh*t this game and Fire Strike look so much smoother on a 120 Hz 5ms screen than on a 25ms 60hz screen!
Never again will I buy a gaming laptop with lower than 120 Hz screen. The panel in the MSI is TN, but the colors are excellent! If I didn't know it is TN I would say it is IPS, it just looks so good. Chi Mei really did a great job with this panel, I would say that this is currently the best panel for laptops.

 

repeat after me.......Clevo.......never again

 

Seems the GTX 1080 in this laptop is also suffering from PWR throttle and the core clock at high temperature may drop under 1800 Mhz for a blink of an eye. Not a game killer but would be nice if custom vBIOS could be flashed to disable this thing...

 

According to Svet, no custom VBIOS for now is possible due to how locked down the GTX 10XX series is, they have some sort of protection that makes it very hard to flash a custom BIOS. Hope Prema can get around this.

 

I was afraid of that...Developer of Maxwell BIOS editor is also out of the game so having a software which can edit and certify a vbios for flashing seems too slim

On a side note I have also tested Rise of the Tomb raider and other dx12 games and holy hell I'm in love with this screen!
With the 60 (75) Hz LG IPS panel I have tested 3 different systems and 7-8 panels (I stopped counting at 5) and all had graphical (game killer) issues with the DX12 api, however this Chi Mei is issue free!
Never again another gamer laptop with an LG panel . They are very good for work and movies but for gaming only Chi Mei 120 Hz!
I also avoid AUO because their quality control is trash...Many of their desktop monitors and laptop panels start having vertical lines at 120 Hz refresh rate. People tend to ignore them but it is still there .

 

If you look at my previous AUO 3K Screen from the Clevo P870DM3 vs this Chi Mei FHD screen, the former looks like utter garbage. This Chi Mei screen is the best screen in any laptop that I've seen. Let IPS go to hell, this looks super smooth with very vibrant colors. nuff said.

Just another example that BGA isn't the end of it all, the user experience for me at least was way better than my socketed garbage components in the previous Clevo in terms of screen, keyboard, and an overall package that just works! no need to tinker with this and that to make it work.

Clevo laptops are simply unusable out of the box without tinkering from the end user to undervolt, get Prema BIOS, etc.

 

Agree , this Chi Mei is the best of the best.
My brother was looking at the screen and didn't want to believe me when I have said that this is not IPS.
Now only need to get one without a bad pixel -_-
I would reward a Nobel prize for the person who can come up with a method to avoid stuck or dead pixels during manufacturing .

Also while playing the right went is the GPU? It gives out a strange squeaking sound (fan works). Oh well I will be sending it back anyway.

I contacted Amazon yesterday but if all goes well the new laptop should be dispatched today. (it's status is "Dispatching now")
Strange that they did not ask for any proof of the issue...I hope no one will use this good will against them.

 

Be trustworthy.......be like DRevan

 

Jesus Christ! Amazon is not screwing around !
Brand new replacement laptop just shipped :O

Wednesday is a national holiday next week so it will only arrive on Thursday

 

awesome! so excited for you man!

 

So, if anyone is interested! I did my repaste this afternoon from liquid metal ultra on my gpu to kryonaut. Went from 78c on unigen valley extreme ultra in 5 mins to 74c after 30 mins. Idle temps dropped about 5-6c as well. Also notice the temps roll off with fan speed much faster. If you are thinking of using a liquid metal paste on the gpu, just don't.


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Did you make a video?

 

No. I have a three year old who makes such endeavors impossible


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I have exact same issue that's why I do all of my videos after 11PM.

 

I actually got this beautiful lappy from you guys. So it's funny that you're here. Everything is awesome by the way. Just wish I chose the IC Diamond option instead. No biggie though, I have a feeling that if I applied the liquid metal myself it wouldn't have been such an easy or stress free process. Maybe you guys could add a liquid metal CPU/IC Diamond gpu option in the future? Who could complain then?


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Good go see you here.

Liquid Ultra is not a easy task and it could potentially fried the MB if not careful. However, it provide great temperatures on CPU and GPU if it's done right.

We been promoting free Liquid Ultra for a while now, if you like, you can send it in and we can do it for you free of charge.

 

I all, i have discovered something. I opened my laptop ( GT73VR 7RF) because i wanted to install the m.2 ssd's 960's pro from samsung to create a Raid 0 from a scratch with 2 new ssd's + a w10..
anyway i saw the socket of the GTX1080 and then i saw underneath one of the heatsinks that there is a same socket. Just about the part were there is a lot of empty space. They have the same branding on it so does this mean that there is an option for a second graphic card?

 

Yep, the casing and motherboard is pretty much the same. All you need is the card, connectors and the custom heatsink to add on another card.

 

Hi thanks for your reply, somehow my pictures aren't showing thought. Well i hope maybe MSI gives us the proper configuration to upgrade it

 

Hi everybody,
Previously my battery could be charged to 98% --> then stopped charging to increasing battery life.
but now it is charging to100% !! is it ok or should I caliborate the battery??

thank you

 

anyone attached the second 1080 to 7RF yet `?
any picture and help is appreciated

 

I got the free liquid ultra, and while it is always better than stock paste for CPU, it doesn't seem to fare as well on GPU. I left the CPU paste you guys did alone because it's obviously doing a great job. I redid the gpu and the mix is fantastic (LM CPU/IC Diamond or kryonaut GPU). I'm just glad I didn't have to apply the liquid metal, that stuff was a pain in he butt to clean. Good thing you guys had a good tape job.

Tape made it way better for clean up to, last bit I removed to ensure no accidents. Ignore the dust bits, I opened a fresh pack of paper towels near the computer and bam, instant FOD!


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Sorry to disappoint you all...adding 2nd GTX 1080 is not possible......somethings to consider before adding 2nd GTX 1080

You need additional brick of 330w...SLI required total 660w...
You need custom heatsink though the heatsink in GTX1070 SLI Model does fit as the chassis are same.
You need 2nd GTX 1080....
Single GTX 1080 hits 80 and Dual GTX 1080 no way the Titan Cooler can handle the temp...
A different BIOS required (may be)
Chiptset is different Single GTX 10xx card has CM236 Where SLI GTX 1070 has HM170...

I did all the research and if it's possible I would have done it long time ago....but even trying to add 2nd GTX 1080 will cost nearly $1000....(GTX 1080 / Heat Sink / Power Brick / Power Splitter)....

Does it worth it.?...better buy SLI GT83VR instead spending $1000.....

In simple words it's not possible to add 2nd GTX 1080....

 

You mixed non-conductive with LM....?

 

No, that was the start of removing it from my GPU. GPU is now on Kryonaut and CPU is untouched from LM.


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