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    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 16, 2016.

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    It would be hard to tell it was the CIA or other clandestine organisation behind the IP's, since they would be hosted or spoofed as other sources.

    I don't think Wikileaks would get into that kind of speculation, those are all about the disclosure of factual data, not speculation.

    But, at least if you have the destination / source IP's you can block them at the PC / device, or at the perimeter router, then see if the attack moves to another IP range, verifying you are being hacked / monitored / followed, or if it's just Microsoft doing same.

    It's better to be forewarned than to sit with your head in the sand. :hi:
     
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    Just making a current events joke.


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    I know uncomfortable situations induce giggling in some people, but it's a serious life altering disastrous debacle we are all watching as if in slow motion.

    The seriously dangerous deceptions played on us, with mountains of lie's told to us for decade's are now being laid clear for all of us to see in the cold light of day...world-wide.

    Oh, now I get it, that's hilarious, the joke is on us. :)
     
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    Wait for it to unfold. Remember that capability, capacity and execution are still missing pieces of this pie.


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    GT73VR Hidden Bios/Cmos Reset Button
    Published on Mar 6, 2017
    Try this before you take apart your laptop that wont post due to a bad overclock!
     
  6. Badhand386

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    Is there a way to remove the heat sink for the gpu without removing the CPU heat sink? I don't really want to repaste both.


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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I do not understand why people, dare to let Windoze Update be open and active. Scary, HaHa
     
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    Hey guys! Can I uninstall SteelSeries Engine and XSplit Gamecaster? Since I can control the backlight of the keyboard through Dragon Center, I have no use for SteelSeries. I also don't have any use for XSplit Gamecaster. Thanks for helping me!
     
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    You can try to, but the MSI DGC is only a "skin" that uses other utilities to implement the changes - removing SSE will likely end DGC's ability to make changes.
     
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    It's just annoying because among the 3 colors in the keyboard (left, middle and right) 1 color (in the left part of keuboard) I set in LED Wizard in DGC won't stick. Everytime I reboot or start the laptop from a cold boot, that 1 color just won't stick and always goes back to red. I don't know why this is happening. This started when I updated DGC using the link in the MSI Support page. I think that SSE's settings is getting in the way of DGC.
     
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    Hi mates,

    something strange happens to my lappy, when i boot it the light from the power and GPU button turn on and then the laptop immediatly reboot and boot normaly after that.
    I undervolted my CPU 1 or 2 days before so i thought that was the problem but even after putting the core voltage offset to default the issue still remains.

    Any ideas?
     
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    SSE has an internal update feature, did you try updating via that or only use the version on MSI's support page?

    It may be that newer versions of SSE are incompatible until new updates to MSI DGC - so keep versions sync'd with MSI versions to keep functionality - the same with other integrated features in DGC that use other external apps - keep using the same versions as MSI provides.

    You could uninstall SSE (and?), reboot, and try installing only the MSI versions.
     
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    If you had crashes while finding the optimal undervolt, did you then run chkdsk on the C drive? You could have a problem that needs fixing on the volume

    Go into Windows Explorer and right click on the C drive, select Properties, click on the Tools tab, see Error checking - click on Check now, when click on Start, then Schedule Disk Check - either reboot now or wait until you are done and start up the next time and let the OS check the C drive.

    It could also be a glitch in BIOS settings. You could go into the BIOS and Select Set Defaults / Optimized defaults, F10 Save and reboot.

    When OC'ing / tuning for undervolt it's good to be methodical and not run settings with unknown stability while doing work - set back to known good settings or defaults when doing work on your computer - that includes gaming changes, configuration, and game saves you want preserved. :)
     
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    Still didn't work. I uninstalled both the DGC and SSE and installed the versions in MSI page but it didn't do anything. :oops:
     
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    Report the bug to MSI via a product support ticket, let them find the solution, fix their software :)
    https://register.msi.com/home/login
     
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    That's the beauty of this laptop and yes you can remove GPU HS without touching CPU HS....
     
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    Yeah I experienced this once and the culprit was GeForce Experience and after GFE removed never had this issue.....

    If you don't use GFE, than it's because you were running the laptop on Turbo Mode and did the shutdown while Turbo Mode on (using XTU)...The laptop has some kind of setting or protection where it will not boot with Turbo Clocks 4.0 Ghz or higher clock than 3.6GHz so it restart and adjust it's clock and boot normally.....

    so in above two cases if laptop power up and immediately reboot and boot normal after that....consider it normal behavior....

    If not above two states...than there is something wrong....
     
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    Hi guys, I'm new to the board and subscribed because since the beginning I have a problem with my MSI GT73VR 6RF Titan Pro and am looking for help.

    Whenever I play a modern game, such as Heroes of the Storm, Battlefield One or Forza Horizon 3, it takes around 8 to 10 minutes of gameplay until the whole system freezes and becomes entirely unresponsive.
    The framerate will then drop to about 1 per 3-5 seconds! Audio sounds distorted, as if it was timestretched.
    This state lasts for about 15 to 20 seconds, and afterwards the game will run on as if nothing ever happened.

    The weird thing is that it happens only during gameplay, ingame menus (e.g. the Heroes of the Storm hero selection screen) don't seem to be causing the issue.

    What I already did to troubleshoot without any improvement on the situation:
    - Updated the Killer Network drivers that caused lags, but this was another issue
    - Installed the latest BIOS, latest Nvidia drivers, latest USB drivers, Audio drivers, basically everything you can download from MSI for the notebook
    - Unplugged any external device from the notebook
    - Tried several performance and fan settings in the MSI Dragon center, to no effect
    - There is no freak software installed on my system, just the usual
    - Tried playing the games without the MSI Dragon Center running (I assumed it had to do with it)

    Does anyone have any idea on what I could do?
     
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    Did you tried the latest driver from nvidia website....?

    Did you tried the latest sound / wireless drivers from their respective websites....?

    What's the temp of CPU / GPU while gaming...?

    What is the vBIOS version of GTX 1080 (you can check using GPU-Z tool)...?

    Did you make any changes in Nvidia Control Panel like G-Sync or V-sync. enable / disable....?

    The problem only occurs while gaming or also during the benchmark...?

    Did you try to restore the laptop to factory setting and run benchmark to check it's stability...?
     
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    My laptop is with the UPS man, hope he will take care of it until it is delivered...or else!

     
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    Hi Shehary, I'll post my answers directly under your questions.

    Did you tried the latest driver from nvidia website....?
    Yes, it's up to date, 21.21.13.7866 (ForceWare 378.66) / Win10 64

    Did you tried the latest sound / wireless drivers from their respective websites....?
    Yes

    What's the temp of CPU / GPU while gaming...?
    It's all normal, both at 60 degrees Celsuis

    What is the vBIOS version of GTX 1080 (you can check using GPU-Z tool)...?
    86.04.2B.00.1B

    Did you make any changes in Nvidia Control Panel like G-Sync or V-sync. enable / disable....?
    No, but G-Sync is enabled in the Control panel.
    Vertical synchronisation is on the topmost entry in the dropdown. My system is in german, the setting is called "Einstellung für 3D-Anwendungen verwenden", which might or might not translate to something like "Use settings for 3D applications"

    The problem only occurs while gaming or also during the benchmark...?
    I'll check, never ran a benchmark on it so far. Which one should I try?

    Did you try to restore the laptop to factory setting and run benchmark to check it's stability...?
    No, I'm trying to push this back as far as possible since I use this device for work as well.

    As a next step I'll try to disable any kind of G-Sync/V-Sync in the Nvidia system panel.
    Update: This did not fix the issue.
     
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    Try running 3DMark Fire Strike and tell us whether you encounter the problem.

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    First of all, you are running an outdated driver and VBIOS

    Latest Driver = 378.77

    Secondly, after installing the driver, go to the nVIDIA control Panel > manage 3D Settings > Power Management

    set it to High Performance rather than optimal and reboot

    Finally, without having your system model / specs in your signature, no one can help you further
     
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    Outdated vBIOS cannot be a problem, I had the same vBIOS and never had any problem with any 3D application since day one....

    @Paydor run the benchmark suggested by @ThePerfectStorm and also try @Phoenix suggestion too...

    you can also update vBIOS.....But....

    IMO before trying all above suggestion you should restore laptop to factory default and run benchmark to check it's stability...(do not connect internet otherwise windows will run it's update)....it's the most straight forward way to check the laptop hardware stability.....if you face any problem during benchmark means the laptop has problem out of the box...
     
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    Thanks for your answers so far.

    Sorry, I didn't know the drivers on the website would be different from the drivers recommended in the Geforce Experience application.

    I have done as you said, set the power management mode to performance and updated the GPU drivers.

    My drivers are now at 378.77, the problem in the games still persists.
    I didn't update the VBIOS yet - but I already updated it this morning, to the version that the MSI download page for the GT73VR provided. Which version should I try installing?

    The Fire benchmark didn't bring up the issues, neither in standard stress nor in ultra stress mode.
    Those tests only run for 10 minutes though, and the issues I'm having usually only start occuring around that time mark, so I'm not 100% sure they wouldn't come up if the test ran on for a longer period.

    Apart from this, I have recorded a short video of how the whole problem occurs to me and put it on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/cI-91adQOj4
     
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    Hello @Paydor

    Does this happen when you play on the laptops monitor?

    8 to 10 minutes is interesting, I assume you are plugged in but do you happen to know what the battery charge is when this occurs?
     
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    Yes it happens also when I play on the laptop screen, with every external device of any kind unplugged.
    The notebook is always plugged to the power bar, so usually the battery charge is between 90% and 100%.
     
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    I figured as much but I had to ask, my only non driver video issue was when I played when the laptop accidentally came unplugged, when the battery got to around %85 it reduced the clocks resulting in a huge slowdown. out of curiosity whats the wattage of your power brick, I think with oyur model you should have 330W if it was shipped with a 230W, which is standard with the 1070 model, it could cause something like this.
     
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    It doesn't explicitly specify the wattage on the sticker on the power brick, but the output is 19.5V with 16.9A, which equals 329.55W.

    Update: Installing the SSE didn't make a difference.
     
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    I bet it has 330 in the mode number, mine has 230 in the model number. I'm using stock bios and Vbios and haven't experienced anything like you have. I would do a factory reset and see if the problem goes away.
     
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    Thanks, yes it does.
    I'll format the system and install a fresh Win10 Pro tomorrow afternoon, shouldn't there be any other tips for me that solve the issue before.
     
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    Mr UPS man has just left. The Dragon has landed :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    have fun :)
     
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    Awesome! Enjoy the new computer. Let us know what you think once you have some time to play with it :)
     
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    Update for my freezes: The issue seems to be solved now, having installed a fresh copy of Windows 10 Pro.
    I followed the specified order of installation for the drivers from the MSI download page... however, I did not install the Dragon Center as it only gave me headaches before anyway.
    It all seems to work fine now, no more sudden freezes during the last 30 minutes of straight gameplay (whew!). Can't believe I pushed this fresh reinstall back for the last half year... but it was worth it.
    Thank you guys for your help anyways.
     
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    First 5 minutes rather disappointing.
    1 stuck green pixel at the lower middle side.
    Laptop battery not charging when plugged in.
    Did not turn on with just battery, I plugged it in, it booted and it says 93%, not charging. Is this intentional ?
    Also, should the middle LED among the 3 light up? 2 on the sides are working but the middle is not lighting.

    It is getting ridiculous...I buy a cheap budget laptop and it is working 100% fine, however no matter what kind of expensive laptop I buy, it always have a problem.
     
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    @DRevan

    The stuck pixel is a bummer, I would consider returning it based on that alone.

    The battery activity is normal, it lets it discharge until 90 the charges, it's normal.

    I'm not sure what LED you are talking about. Look in the manual, it will tell you have LED it is.
     
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    I have just contacted Amazon and they gave 3 options:
    - return the item for full refund
    - keep the item with 1 bad pixel and receive $680 refund
    - they send a new one and I have 30 days to return the old one

    -_-
     
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    So one bad pixel and you get $680.00? If the pixel isn't too bad, that sounds like a winner.
     
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    I agree with @DukeCLR

    I will go for 2nd option, get $680...buy a new screen in $150 and double side tape in $15 and still save $515......change the screen myself....it's not difficult to change the screen.....
     
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    $680 for a dead pixel seems pretty generous in that case. I'd agree, get a screen replacement at that point. Maybe some other upgrades too :)
     
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    Yes, it's normal to hang between 90%-100% over time it will charge up to different levels - it's to keep the battery fresh and not overcharge.

    It's also the 1st question a new MSI laptop owner asks ;)

    Sorry about the stuck pixels, but perhaps it will work itself out over a few days, and google "massage pixel" - gently!!!! to fix *later*.

    Enjoy your new laptop, turn that angst into involvement in gaming and relax :)
     
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    Jesus dude take the $680 refund. Seriously a single dead pixel?! That is not really something to cry about.

    If it bothers you that much replace the screen yourself and pocket the cash.
     
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    @DRevan I've never heard of Amazon giving a "cash payout" for a dead pixel like this, you must have misunderstood.

    Maybe Amazon doesn't have your specific model in stock and they are offering a lessor configuration model and refunding the cash difference?

    It's highly unlikely you'd get a "profit" of $680 as an apology for a bad pixel.

    If that is the case then definitely take the $$$ and live with the bad pixel - or learn how to massage it into working condition - for all the trouble of swapping display's I'd live with the single bad pixel. :)

    wikiHow to Fix a Stuck Pixel on an LCD Monitor
    http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Stuck-Pixel-on-an-LCD-Monitor
     
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    Is there Any way I can tell what drivers I'm missing? I can't get Optimus to work or true color and a few small things hat I don't know what drivers I need.


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    From the reviews I've seen is yes they support Optimus


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