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I hope you are not serious. If you don't know what is a good temp or not you shouldn't be owning this laptop

 

When you said unplugged "it"? Are you just referring to the AC Adapter or the battery?

 

So you just didn't do anything to the battery? No pressing the Battery Reset Hole or removing the battery?

 

Whoa! Didn't expect that. Reason why I asked was because I noticed lower temperatures mentioned by other owners whereas i haven't touched overclocking yet. I do understand temperatures are not at all bad but was expecting lower than that. Reaching close to 78C or so with stock settings didn't seem okay to me but then what do I know. Anyway, thanks for the advice.

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yeah, I didn't press Battery Reset or removed battery after any EC firmware update....however I did know about this button but some user said it's BIOS reset button and I never press this button, never needed to reset BIOS even @Atma mentioned about this button as Battery Reset Button but I argue with him and said no it's a BIOS reset button till last week I read the manual and found out that it's really a battery reset button.....lesson learned.....

Note: After every EC firmware update, I did unplug the power cord for 10 seconds once the laptop shutdown itself after update....this is the important part, I experienced this once, after EC update, all lights turn off and I thought the laptop is shutdown and when I try to unplug the power cable, cooling fans were still spinning....so becareful, make sure the laptop shutdown before unplug the power cable.....

 

He was just kidding man, right @Phoenix

Your laptop temps seems little higher, I played battelfield (all high ultra setting) and CPU never crossed 70 where GPU never crossed 75, room ambient @24 and no OC....

All the games I played e.g TW3, Thief 4, Crysis 3, Battlefield 1, COD infinity warfare, COD modern warfare remastered, CPU never cross 70 and GPU never crossed 78 (GPU temp mostly between 65 to 75 depends on game and setting however I played all games on 1080 all settings Ultra High)

 

I updated the EC Firmware to .108 here's proof from MSI Help Desk, I also confirmed it in the BIOS.

However when I checked in the Advanced Option in the fan speed in DGC. It still have 5 curves and not 6. I already uninstalled DGC and installed it back again but it still resulted to the same thing. Is there something more that I should do to unlock the 6th fan curve? Thanks man!

 

Only difference I can see is the BIOS version...

 

So should I also update the BIOS? Is my version of the BIOS incompatible with the .108 EC Firmware version?

 

yeah it's look like the reason...

I think you should wait for @DukeCLR to confirm this, I think he didn't update both BIOS and EC firmware and he has 6 CPU bars, lets wait for his confirmation and this puzzle will be resolved once and for all why .107 EC firmware only have 5 bars...(by the way CPU first bar has actually two adjustment point, overlapping)

 

Okay, we'll wait for @DukeCLR for his help before I go and update the BIOS. So far so good upon updating the EC Firmware. I've tried using the Cooler Boost and it seems there's nothing wrong. The fan speed and rpm are all good too. But it's still too early to tell if there's something wrong with updating the EC Firmware as it's just been minutes since the update. Thanks man!

 

You don't need to use boot options. Just press and hold F11 when you first turn on the laptop and you will prompt and let you choose which drive to boot from.

 

THIS should be of concern. Disgusting!! Only 1C degrees and Bye Bye desktop. See you after reboot Or never ever use your gaming book inside home, with ambient over 20-22C

 

Totally agree brother @Papusan - that kind of thermal performance is disgraceful. Painfully bad thermal engineering is crippling a lot of laptops these days.

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Yeah, even thicker models such as AcerBook has temp issues. It becomes so when ODM play with bad thermal engineering and prefer crippled cooling solutions. See TRIPOD once again The actual execution of the MB design is just the beginning... Then they start designing the heatsink which will be used. The result in the end is already predetermined!!

 

Sad, isn't it? Barring Clevo and an MSI barebones, socketed processors are almost gone in laptops. Instead we get tripods and other interesting variations of overheating heavy laptops.

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@Papusan, I don't know why acer would use the provenly failed tripod design (since it's one of the brands that are constantly improving) but, at least the price is way lower than the rest of the competition, without compromising on build quality, screen... and other important aspects. The gx-792 has decent temperatures (in normal high load usage, not in prime+furmark) and could probably be improved after repasting.

 

So i think then my GPU temps are fine. But CPU going over 70C by approx 6-8C, i should look into once. Ambient temperature @ 25C. And i am playing these games maxed out at 1080p.

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That is actually scary and looking at it I feel privileged. Just wanted to run these numbers by you guys and have a second opinion. As such I am really impressed with my laptop. Maybe I was expecting way over the top with a repaste.

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For what I've used my desktop for and doing the same on the laptop... sure I wont be able to overclock it super high but I'm pretty impressed on the performance on a laptop as well as keeping itself cool.

 

@DukeCLR Hey man, did you read my earlier posts? @Shehary told me to get some thoughts from you about me not having the 6th Fan Curve in the Advance Option in the DGC Fan speed despite updating my EC Firmware from .107 to .108. He also told me that you already have the 6th fan curve even though you still have the .107 BIOS version like mine and that you didn't update the EC Firmware. Did you do something more to have that phantom 6th curve? Thanks man!

 

The busy season is here and I'm a bit behind, just catching up now. I did nothing to get the curve the way it was, it's just there but I remember the bug a few people had. @Shehary did the new version have 6 steps in the curve?

 

I was talking about unplugging the adapter.

 

I have the 10a bios and EC 108. I have 6 adjustments for the fan speed, but I'm sorry, I don't remember if it happened after the 108 update or the 10a bios update. I looked back through the thread to see if/when I mentioned it but I can't find anything. I also have the 6RE, not the 6RF like you do.

 

you can try the silent Option tool:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=255972.0

it is a nice and easy tool from the msi hq end user Forum and i use this instead of the dc.
You own a 6 or 7 Generation GT73? For 6th Genration it will work for 7th i don't know

 

I was in a hotel in Hawaii the other day and got my first experience with warm weather gaming, my temps were the same but my CPU fan was noticeably louder so l I'm trying to under volt my CPU to see if I can reduce it a bit. On my desktop I have had good luck using XTU but it's not working the same way. I have a couple of questions.

Do I have to uninstall DGC to the values in XTU to work?
Has anyone had success in under volting at 4.1 Ghz? If so what voltage worked?

 

Cheers mate.

Ive sorted it now. Phew it was a task too.

Took my system out of RAID 0 after reading peoples comments on here and doing a bit of googling, that it just isn't worth it with SSD drives.

I wish I'd known about the F11 key, I think my method was the long way.

I've put windows on one of the drives and used the other for my games.

All working a treat again now.

 

I have DC and XTU installed, it still works. Only issue you may have is the version of XTU that runs under dragon center is outdated and won't let you actually launch it. Download it from intel and you should be able to undervolt then.


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I uploaded the Windows 10 Redstone 2 upgrade on my Google Drive. Call me on Skype so I can hook you up

 

Silent Option will also give you 5 bars if you have 5 CPU fan bars (where first bars adjustment overlapping), though it's excellent tool and replacement of dragon center advanced fan curve setting but in this particular situation silent option tool is no help...

 

@HardCoreGamer4Life @DukeCLR @Atma

based on the modified date (my computer), I can confirm that I updated .10A BIOS version first (Dec 2016) and GT73VR 7Rx launched in Jan 2017 so .108 EC firmware came later and I update it later... I still remember @kennyman was the one who posted about .108 EC firmware....

@HardCoreGamer4Life you should update the BIOS to .10A

what I can conclude is that CPU 5 bars bug in Fan Advanced setting is not only because of EC firmware, somehow BIOS is also culprit

Out of the box you will have 6 CPU fan bars, but as soon as you decide to flash BIOS to latest version or update EC firmware to latest version...say bye bye to 1 CPU bar......

I can confirm that with BIOS .10A and .107, you will get 5 bars....unless you flash the laptop .10A and .108 Firmware, will fix the Fan bars and you will get 6 bars.....

Note: Above only valid for 6Rx models...do not apply it on 7Rx models....

 

are these the 6 fan curves you are talking about?

 

Yes bro

 

Hey bro, are you still online?

 

What should I do when I already updated the EC Firmware to .108 before flashing the BIOS? Will it still work if the flashing of the BIOS comes later than updating the EC Firmware? Also if I'll need to come back to .107 EC Firmware first before flashing the BIOS, I don't have the .107 file anymore.

 

yeah bro

 

just flashed @HardCoreGamer4Life MSI GT73VR 6RF to the latest BIOS remotely via Skype and updated his Windows to Redstone 2 as he was having issues on his current build where Windows updates were always failing to install. all working great now

 

Helpful as always brother. Thank you so much!

 

Hey man, I've just flashed the BIOS to .10A from .107 with @Phoenix. I still also have the .108 EC Firmware as shown in MSI Help Desk.

Still no luck on that 6th Fan Curve buddy. Is there anything that I've missed doing?

 

Thanks! I updated XTU and it still didn't take so I tried using DGC to set my OC then XTU to set the voltage offset to -.020. I got hours of gaming and a reduction on the peak and average temps. I only use the stress test in XTU so it may not be official but I happy with the results.

 

Hey man, I did 4.1 Ghz with my 6RF with -0.025 V undervolt through XTU and it worked fine with playing TW3. It also passed running AIDA64. However I don't know if it'll work with you as not all CPUs are the same.

 

I'll give it a go.

 

Good to hear it's working for you now.

Yeah each manufacturer has it's on boot option key without going to the BIOS to change boot drive every time you want to choose a boot drive.

- Asus: ESC Key
- Gigabyte: F12
- MSI : F11
- Sager / Clevo: F7

RAID-0 is a risk however, same as without RAID. RAID just double the chance of one of the drive fails.

Either way, with RAID without RIAD I would strongly recommend do system image backup to a external hard drive every once a while.

 

Flash EC Firmware .108 again....

EC Firmware you can re-flash or can go back to old version, both have been tried successfully, I did re-flash and @Atma did flash .107 after he flashed .108 I think he didn't like .108.....

 

Is flashing the same EC Firmware safe? Won't it brick the laptop?

 

Yeah it's safe and no it will not brick the laptop, I personally re-flash .107 to resolve the CPU fan bar issue, just to make sure that I didn't do anything wrong when flashed first time, though reflashing .107 didn't resolve the issue and later flashed .108 which did resolve the issue.

 

Is it better to flash back to .107 then flash it to .108 again or just re-flashing it immediately to .108? Either of these two might work or not work.

 

re-flash .108

 

Re-flashing .108 did not work...

 

Did you tried resetting the battery? Maybe that might do the trick.

On the right bottom side there is a small hole, use a small pin or paperclip en press down the button for around 15 second.