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Why use Samsung crap tools. As @Phoenix said. Too small. Make it bigger with Windoze Disk Management. The bigger for the smaller ssd's you have. 30% for ssd's under 240GB isn't too much. I would make it 50%. None should buy ssd's under 240GB nowadays. And 128GB ssd's is wasted money. At least in my book.

Edit. @Phoenix remember you have bigger ssd's!! Btw. Smart choice

 

Samsung has the 850 EVO M.2 SATA SSD.

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You are right. As I see, both, Crucial MX300 1TB (M.2 SATA) and Samsung 850 EVO 1TB (M.2 SATA) are TLC based, although some say that 850 EVO's 3D NAND nullifies the downsides of TLC. Then again, MX300(1TB) has more than double the endurance of 850 EVO(1TB) -- 360TBW vs. 150TBW. Really would like to hear opinions on which specs are more important, since my decision is gonna come down to one of these two.

 

"Make it bigger with Windoze Disk Management" -waccha talkin 'bout Willis?

 

Best ssd's Q1 2017 I will still go for MLC nand. And I will take with me the older ssd's (if they are big enough) over to next machine.

 

Make it bigger with Windoze Disk Management
But you should have done it before fully install OS or right afterwards.
But you are too late for that(to the party ). Make a partision, trim and then Op'ing afterwards as option.

 

MLC NAND is nowhere to be found on M.2 SATA SSd's. We all know that it is better because of its read/write cycles.
For me it doesn't matter that much if one SSD writes 30Mb/s faster than the other drive. Endurance has always been the number one thing for me. Those numbers, though, seem unreal to me. 360TBW over 150TBW. I see it as: This drive will last twice as long. What do I care if it's little slower. What am I missing?

 

I do not decide what others buy It is intended as my personal opinion.

 

but ummm......my 2TB 960 PRO m.2 SSD is MLC

Samsung 48-layer 256Gb MLC V-NAND

 

I think @OhhiMark is referring to M.2 SATA SSDs.

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oh sorry, now I look like an idiot........

 

Nah dude, you're cool

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Which part of this you didn't get. "MLC NAND is nowhere to be found on M.2 SATA SSd's"
960 PRO is not SATA! It's NVME. There. The more you know. EDIT: Now I see you've already been corrected. Now I feel bad.

 

We know. But you can still change mind and Buy bigger NVMe for M.2 slot. Aka Skip sata

 

I know but you don't understand. I can't have unused M.2 slots. That would be madness. I gotta fill those holes. All of them. That's why they're there. To be filled!

 

Yeah, You could use it as Scratch space

 

Windows 10 Redstone 2 Upgrade Assistant

 

The Tornado F5 fan is also 22mm thick. Mine are horribly loud and I bought some GT72 fans as replacements.

 

Reviving an old comment, but in my case it is the same. Unlike my GT80, the killer card on my GT73 works flawlessly with my Asus router. I am finally able to maintain full 100% ISP speeds up and down, without issues. With my GT80, I could only maintain full speed for a couple of minutes before the wifi card would reset itself, it was weird. I had to limit my speeds to 120mps.

Older killer NICs and Wifi cards definitely had strange issues, where it was better to use generic drivers instead of the killer suit. I am please this time it works out of the box, and no issues so far.

 

Off topic but what is projected life of the fans and GPU/CPU with high temps? I never checked the temps with my old G75VW with a crappy 3610mq and 660m but now I'm always watching temps and I find I lower the graphics to keeps my temps around 50C for games I play for long periods daily. I'm wary of 60-68c CPU/GPU lol. Any potential future risks constantly running just under 70C? 3-4 hours a day. I know I could just increase the fan rpm but then I feel because of their high performance it will shorten their life considerably. This is a weird question I know haha

 

My GT70 ran in the 80s for years and is still going strong, I figure running the fans a little more to keep mine below 80 may hurt the fans done the road but they are easily replaced.

 

Expect well over 10,000 hours, or at least 3 years. As minimum.

 

Just got a brand new GT73 7RF and get the same issue with Nvidia driver updates. My laptop goes black and only a hard reboot brings it back. Drivers have all updated but it happens each time. I can plug in an HDMI cable to my TV during this black screen issue and get a display fine. Irritating.

Will see if it gets fixed with the creators edition when I upgrade tomorrow.

 

This problem stopped for me when I started using the custom installation option which allowed me to remove Geforce Experience and select clean installation. I haven't even been using DDU and my driver install have not had the blank screen issue.

 

Is it safe to use liquid metal on the CPU/GPU on the MSI GT73VR? 20C reduction in temps look great.

 

There is no way I would put that in my beloved laptop.

 

indeed, never had good luck with it, cleaning it is the biggest pain in the butt as well. Oh and one mistake and our motherboard is fried like barbecued chicken. In my personal experience, I've always had better temps with IC Diamond.....

See: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-156#post-10240358

 

Hi @ Donald@HIDevolution @ gilbertjr

I just wanted to let you know that I've succesfully installed my new Samsung 960 EVO - 1TB. I've removed those two SSD's and reinstalled Windows 10 with succes.
Thanks again for your help and advice!

 

There is no way to get 20c drop in temps just from thermal paste, unless you had a really really reeaaaaaaaaaaallllllllly bad paste job to begin with. Which is unlikely to be the general scenario for most users

As others have said, I tend not to use liquid metal, though I have some. I prefer stuff like IC diamond. Normally I would be more worried about using the best thermal paste ever but the GT73 has fantastic temps even with stock paste... that I haven't bothered to repaste this particular laptop. It's a weird feeling because I have repasted all previous once up to 7 years ago, but this time, I think I don't need to ha

 

Well that is good to know. So I shouldn't be concerned with 70C and below for the CPU/GPU?

You mean for the fans right?

 

Yes

 

I wouldn't be.

 

You shouldn't even be concerned at 85C, if we're talking longevity.

 

As most computer components these days are designed to work to about 105-110 degrees celsius, most of these temperatures are fine. In the worst case intel's own master "failsafe" will throttle around high 90's-100 celsius meaning theres still safety room for components.

 

Ok good to know! Thanks for the input everyone. Highest temps I have had was with TW3 before I under volted the CPU and that was 76cpu/70gpu with everything maxed including hairworks. I guess I will go and max everything now lol

 

76 CPU/ 70 GPU is completely fine, no need to worry about it. However, it's recommend to open the bottom cover to check for dusts every once few months.

 

What kind of overclocks do people have on Skylake/Kaby?

My Titan SLI goes smoothly at 4.2ghz with +25mv.

Also does anyone know how to get into the hidden bios menu, I looked back through the thread and found the combination was censored. If anyone could Skype me with this info I would appreciate greatly

 

Alrighty I will crank up the settings! Yes I got into the habit of cleaning my old G75vw every 2 months. I started after it was lagging during a game and I couldn't figure out why and realized I never cleaned it and I had it for 1 year at that point... The dust plumes that came out of the back vents were insane haha. Lesson learned and never forgotten.

 

Yes, just use it all the way (or push), but do keep it clean.

 

Why would nVidia release Titan Xp feels bad for Titan X owners lol

Anyway new drivers lol

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-geforce-drivers-381-65-whql.803351/

 

Reminds me of the original Ti and titan. Not sure if there is enough benefit over the Titan X, to have an Xp.

 

Agreed. Methinks it could be that they want a flagship card they can parade over Vega, assuming that Vega matches the 1080 Ti.

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Hi guys,

Great forum, ive learned loads from watching and reading your posts.

Quick question about op'ing. I have a 1tb SSD drive partitioned into two 500Gb drives.
Do I need to op for each partition or just once for the whole drive?

 

Correction: you have it partitioned into 2 partitions not 2 drives, it's one drive with 2 partitions

Secondly, the OP is just an unpartitioned space you leave as your last partition

example:

c: 500 GB
D: 300GB
Rest: unpartitioned

I recommend you to setup C: 200 GB, D: 600GB, and leave the rest unpartioned

Install Windows on C: along with all your programs, then move your docs,pics,music,videos libraries to a folder on D: and also install your games there

 

Cheers guy,

I have windows on a separate 256Gb PCI-e SSD which I have op'd and is set as 'C' and I have a second 256Gb PCI-e SSD op'd and set as 'D' for games.

I also have a 1TB SSD 2.5 inch drive which is partitioned as I mentioned earlier. I wondered if I need to set an op per partition, or is it just one op for the whole physical drive?

Thanks again.

 

See @Phoenix's example above... OP is the rest of the physical drive. Aka unpartitioned. Not for each partition.

 

one OP per drive

 

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