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    The Official MSI GT73VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. Shehary

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    Did you restart the laptop after modifying the settings in nvidia panel?

    what's G-SYNC setting...window and full screen or only full screen...?

    you are on OEM windows 10 or you installed fresh windows 10...?
     
  2. UltimateDoomer1

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    I just restarted after modifying. Temperatures are now in the low 40's.

    G-Sync is on windowed and full screen (I like to play games in windowed full screen).

    Fresh install windows 10. I had to install all the drivers from MSI manually.
     
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    Did you installed the drivers in mentioned sequence on MSI support Page...?

    You have the same scenario like one of other forum member, modified nvidia 3D global settings, Fresh Windows 10, manually Installed drivers, he had the same issue...changing anything won't resolved it, so I suggested him same which I already suggested you, keep all your settings as you like and use nvidia inspector, use it's multi monitor power saver mode, keep it enabled when laptop idle to keep GPU clocks lower and when gaming, just disable the power save mode and when finished, enable power saving mode again...this will not effect the laptop performance any way....

    Or

    you can start hunting down the reason (application or setting) why GPU running at full speed when laptop idle and fix it (since I don't have your laptop and don't have the idea what application you are using and how you modify laptop to your need, cannot suggest you accurate solution) but one thing is for sure, high temp reason is because GPU running at full speed when laptop idle.

    .
     
  4. UltimateDoomer1

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    After all of that, my laptop now runs at 32 gpu and ~40 cpu. I'm hoping to get the cpu down a little bit by undervolting, while at the same time I think I've identified the increase in temps. In my Nvidia Control panel settings I had my power management setting on Prefer Maximum Performance, and Texture Filtering was also on High Performance. That in it of itself appeared to be causing the issue.

    Thanks, Shehary!
     
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  5. Shehary

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    You are most welcome, you can run the laptop in Comfort Mode, it will also bring CPU temp lower,
     
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    After testing 4 of these laptops, I have came to this conclusion: all units are defective !

    1) CPU fan has a strange screeching sound
    2) all 120 Hz Chi Mei panels are defective. All have a dead pixel or a dust particle under the screen (I think it is dust, unless I killed a pixel with flashing a newer vbios)
    Best you can get is to have one with a dust particle because if you are lucky than it will be hard to notice that. I think most people would only see it if someone pointed it out (3/4 had the 1 bad spot around the same place )

    Pretty shame that MSI has so bad quality control and officially would not even consider 1 bad pixel a fault.
     
  7. DukeCLR

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    You have had some bad luck bro. Did you get all these units from the same vendor?


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
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    Yes da
    same vendor, different batch.

    I might keep this last one because it is the less noticable. Curse my skills to find problems most people could not find.
    Before me the screen has been checked 2 times and no one found the problem which I did.
     
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  9. bodosko

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    Hello everyone, first post here with my new GT73.

    I'm using it for about 2 weeks and I'm loving. It's beautiful, comfortable, cool, powerful...
    The keyboard is awesome, the screen has very good colors. I didn't notice too much improvement on game smoothness over my 60Hz old Clevo, but nothing bad, it's awesome.

    The only things I have to complain is software side, and possible could be Windows fault.
    I have problems with latest version of MSI Dragon Center, it just doesn't work. So I'm using a buggy outdated version that works.
    I also have problems with latest version of MSI True Color, apparently the profiles for my screen are all messed up. sRGB gamma is so dark that I can't see anything, Designer profile makes everything pinkish, and other problems...
    Anyone have these problems too?

    Besides that, I'm very happy. I love when I don't burn my fingers while gaming xD.
    Just to compare, I also bought a Clevo P670HS, and OMG, that thing can easily fry your hands.
     
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    I had had 6 gaming laptops over the last 17 years and one only one, Toshiba, had a dead pixel that happened some time after I bought it. It wasn't very noticeable. I'm not sure how I would deal with one today.


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    Last 2 did not have dead pixel. All colors are good however 1 small spot (which might be smaller than a pixel) is green with black background at certain angles and very close to the eye.
    But this issue probably could not be spotted by most people.

    When I first booted it up I did not notice it either. Only after installing latest vbios and driver.
     
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    I think the fan noise is actually due to the EC firmware. I've only heard the noise on machines with 1.07 EC firmware. Mine with 1.05 doesn't make the noise.

    There's also a newer version 1.08 for the kaby lake models and that may also solve it.

    Interestingly, I asked MSI if 1.08 is compatible with the skylake models and they said NO even though several members here have done so.
     
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    Okay I am tired of testing so many units. I keep this 4th one.

    The problem can not be seen during gaming and can only be seen with full black background and when I am a few cm away from the screen.

    The problem is there but I can live with that.
    Espesially since Amazon offered a 700 USD refund for my troubles. ;)
    Hower if I have any problem for the next 2 years repair or replacement will not be available for me and my only option will be to send back the item free of charge for a refund :(
    :)

    I think taking the refund was not a bad idea.
     
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  14. DukeCLR

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    Yup, if you can game on it then its serving it's purpose, I have had good luck with mine but the stories I have read have me sticking to EVGA for my other parts.
     
  15. UltimateDoomer1

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    My gt73vr seems to create a lot of noise for running Tom Clancy's Wildlands on ultra. The temps are getting close to 80 degrees with a loud roar from the fans. I don't want the fans to die on me from over use... what should I do?
     
  16. HardCoreGamer4Life

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    You should just lower the settings for it to run cooler and more quiet. Nothing you can do about that as Ghost Recon Wildlands is a very demanding game and quite poorly optimized too. I also play Wildlands on Ultra Settings on my 6RF but the temps won't go near 80s, maximum is always 70-72 for GPU and mid to upper 60s for CPU (I play these games in rooms with ACU though). Tested lowering some specs still Ultra but lowered the Shadow, Terrain and other features to Very High and it ran cooler with higher fps too (GPU and CPU at low to mid 60s). But as I want to run all games on Ultra, I've reverted it back to where it belonged. :D I've adjust my fan curve though to cool them both as I do not mind the noise.
     
  17. ryzeki

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    The machine was designed to take it so don't worry :) if it gives you peace of mind, do try lowering the settings and keep your framerate capped or limited, to ensure the system does not work as hard.
     
  18. HardCoreGamer4Life

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    That still won't do as Wildlands at Ultra settings won't even land pass mid 60s fps. It just usually hovers around 57-60. So capping the framerate won't do any good unless you cap it in 50 or the 40s which will make the game not enjoyable (capping it at 55 may cool it just a little bit 3-4 deg C maybe). IMHO you should always play games at 60 fps if it can hit that. 40-50 fps for me is quite laggy since I'm already used to the 120hz monitor of the GT73VR. ;)
     
  19. ryzeki

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    that's why I recommended lowering settings while also limiting fps, that way you lower the gpu % load ;)
     
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  20. HardCoreGamer4Life

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    I've read it wrong lol. I though you said "don't" it was "do", my bad. :p

    @UltimateDoomer1 I agree with what ryzeki said. Limiting the fps after lowering the settings will make it run much much cooler :vbthumbsup:
     
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  21. DukeCLR

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    Whats your FPS in that game? The fans are easily replaced so i would go with whatever noise you find acceptable. For BF1 I cap my settings with RTTS to 120 then tweak my settings so it stays pegged there. I think my GPU usage hangs around 80% with a GPU temp in the mid to upper 70s with decent noise level. I prop up the back and organize my wires so they don't restrict the airflow in any way.
     
  22. HardCoreGamer4Life

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    I don't understand the Nahimic and Audio Driver Update. I currently have the Nahimic 2.5.5 and Realtek Audio Driver 6.0.1.8083 which I, as far I can remember, downloaded from the MSI Website. But they released on Apr 10 a Nahimic 2.3.15 and Audio Driver 6.0.1.8067 which I think are older than what I have. Am I wrong about it being older and download it?
     
  23. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    those newer files that you had were from Nahimic's site directly, please revert back to the official one from MSI
     
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    How are you guys getting such low CPU temps?

    I have a 7820HK undervolted by -100mv and my CPU temp hovers around 80c in games. Should I repaste?
     
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    Are your fans maxed out? If not you could adjust you fan curves a bit.
     
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    Forgot to mention I have it OC'd to 4.2GHZ. I'm using the default fan curves.

    The GTX 1070 stays pretty cool at 65c in comparison though.
     
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    Which version of Windows 10 ISO do you guys use to make a clean install?

    Which one should I use?

    Microsoft Windows 10 ISO 1507
    Microsoft Windows 10 Anniversary Update ISO 1607
    Microsoft Windows 10 Creators Update ISO 1703

    I used 1607 Brazilian ISO two weeks ago and I'm having problems with Visual C++ or .NET Framework programs. Some of them does not work at all, even when reinstalling all libraries.
     
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  28. HardCoreGamer4Life

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    I don't know about 7820HK since I have the 6820HK but you have same settings with @Phoenix. He also has his 7820HK @4.2Ghz and undervolt by -100mv and from what I heard from him it's running really cool. You should ask him about this since you guys both have the same CPU set at the same OC and undervolt.
     
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    you're complaining about 80C on a 4.2 GHz overclock on all cores? :rolleyes:
     
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    Not really complaining, just asking since people mentioned they were getting upper 60's.
     
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    how to Reduce battery wear level. My gt73vr 7RF reaches 93% battery wear rate for 2 weeks
     
  34. Maineiac12

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    Has anyone updated to the Windows 10 creators update yet?

    I just did and I'm noticing random freezes in games that last about 5 seconds every so often. Has this happened to anyone else?

    I've updated all my drivers to the latest from the MSI site plus the newest from nvidia.
     
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    As normal from The Redmond Morons HQ Expect Bugs :D
     
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    Microsoft Creators Update, April 11 , 2017 Rollout
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...l-11-2017-rollout.803115/page-5#post-10503774
     
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    You don't have game mode on it anything right?
     
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    this has probably already been answered before, but anyone know or have issues with sleep? When I put the computer to sleep, the power button remains on, screen and keyboard turn off but everything seems to be in a frozen state.

    I never use sleep, and I put the laptop to sleep by accident, so I just noticed it. I am not worried as I will probably never use sleep, but if this is an underlying problem for something else, I better get it fixed.
     
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    Looks like you have the 6th Gen CPU, I checked there is a newer version of BIOS:

    http://download.msi.com/bos_exe/nb/E17A1IMS.10A.zip

    Maybe you want to try it out see if it solve the problem.
     
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    I've had it since last week and all been ok here


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    nvidia driver causing it, I'm not sure 381.65 solved this problem but 378.92 had the problem for sure where 378.78 didn't has this problem....
     
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    Im jealous about this......read my previous posts then you rlly should be happy with this results.
     
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    I don't even see where to toggle game mode. lol
     
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    A guy from the German MSI Enduser Forum asked MSI directly for a 108 firmware update for his 6RE... They've sent it to him!
    He also gave it to me and I'm using it since a few weeks now. I never tested the Kabylake firmware and I'm not sure, if it's the same file. But I have to say, that I really like that firmware, especially the automatic fan management, which is much less aggressive than the 107 version.
     
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    Can someone help me.to share a Battery Wear Level of the battery GT73VR
     
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    BIOS Up to date
    EC Firmware Up to date

    The issue still remains :/
     
  47. Shehary

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    @Maineiac12

    6Rx models has last updated .107 EC firmware
    7Rx models has last updated .108 EC firmware

    you are first one who said .108 is less aggressive as compare to .107, where personally (many other forum members too) found .108 more aggressive, cooler boost option more responsive and fans kick in more quickly as compare to .107

    MSI support can only confirms you what they have on paper / manual or on screen information, one logical reason that German MSI Support provide you incorrect information is if .108 compatible with 6Rx models, they must have updated 6Rx Models support page but the case is other way around, still for 6Rx models .107 is the last updated EC firmware where .107 EC firmware update may cause (in many cases, also reported to MSI) 6th fan curve overlap in advance fan settings where .108 resolve this issue on 6Rx models....at-least in my case it did and I'm pretty satisfied with it's cooling performance

    another fact is 6Rx has SkyLake where 7Rx has KabyLake so technically one's EC firmware should not be compatible with other....

    another proof is following CPU fan curves comparison / fans speed breaking point / bars location based on CPU temperature to support above fact that ones EC firmware is not compatible with other model...but in the end any EC firmware does work on any GT73 models and without any issue so far....

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    out of suggestions....last one is that if you are using GeForce Experience, get rid of it and see if it resolve the problem, in my case GFE was culprit....
     
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    I uninstalled XTU, I thought maybe there were something wrong with it or maybe a conflict and now my lappy boot normally.Of course, I will test it a couple of days just to be sure.

    Is this possible there's a conflict with DC or something else?
     
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    @Shehary are you running 1.08 on your 6RF? Did you get it from MSI or download from the website page for 7RF?
     
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