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    The Official MSI GT73VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. powerofviva

    powerofviva Notebook Consultant

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    thank you for the reply, I am using raid0
    but what do yo u mean about run it as windoes drives!!
     
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    RAID uses the IRST driver so you don't need the NVMe driver nor will it be recognized anyway
     
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    Thanks Phoenix,
    You are solving all the problems, can you please let me know your IDEA about negative value in my max CPU since no one could solve that?

    2.PNG


    the value is correct when I rest to MSI factory , but the problem back after update the driver/utilities!!!
    I tried to restore two times and each time I folllowed driver installation order that is mentioned in this website. o_O
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    -2.9ghz

    so the cpu is creating electricity instead of consuming it?
     
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  5. Kevin

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    Forget the Dragon Center.

    What does CPU-Z say?
     
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  6. Djadit

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    Need help . I upgraded my hdd to 2tb. And add ssd 960 evo. I plan on reinstalling it into windows 10 pro on 960 evo . format the toshiba ssd and backup previous system to hard disk. I copy the system and the entire file from my c system to the second hard disk .default 1tb hard disk from gt73vr. How do I boot over an external hard disk?
    I want to check if my clone has been successful or not
    I try using a virtualbox but cannot running the installed os
    When i try restored msi factory on ssd .i have a problem
    Can someone help me

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. forcemethod

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    Hey guys, just wondering how critical is it to create a backup of the original laptop settings. Does GT73VR have built in factory "restore to factory settings" option, should in the future one require to restore it back to the factory settings?
     
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    Just make a flash drive of it the day you get your rig or make an image of it and store it some place. That way you can easily restore it when/if you need to do an RMA/upgrade etc.. but forethemost part i dont think they'll care if you load in stock windows as long as they can boot to it.
     
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    It should have been staring you in the face since your first boot :)

    MSI BurnRecovery - get a 32GB USB 3.0 flash drive, and let it create a boot recovery flash drive for you. Takes about 12 minutes.

    Then you can blow away the original partitions - everything, and that boot USB flash drive will restore the MSI original out of the box OS image onto whatever you want.

    Then after doing updates, configuration, application / game installs, use Macrium Reflect Free to image the final build, and every so often after that, so you can restore back to your best build whenever you want.

    Macrium Reflect Free will also build a bootable recovery flash drive for you - you can keep the backup image on that flash drive, or on another external drive - don't keep your backups on your internal drives :)
     
  10. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Maybe I have missed something. Make that backup and store it a safe place. Be sure Windoze is activated. Download latest build and do a clean install. Never upgrade over the old OS build. Be sure you have downloaded everything before the new install.
     
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    Keeping the original OS image is for future use. When all else has gone to hell with Windows 10, you can restore the working out of the box install, and lock it down until MS gets their acts together, again.

    It's a sanity check, since everything was working out of the box, when it all goes to hell, you can install it and make sure some of your hardware hasn't gone wrong - to make sure all those new problems are Microsoft's fault.

    Windows 10 has completely ruined the idea of updates vs. upgrades, taking Windows 10.0 forever into the future with no "universal" "dot version" for manufacturers to sync on.

    I have no idea if MSI, AW, etc are updating their Windows 10 OS images, and shipping new ones with new laptops, or if they are all shipping the same original Windows 10 install - from what date?

    It used to be you could take the out of the box OS image, restore it, do Windows Updates, do application installs, do MS app updates, install games - making an image backup occasionally along the way "just in case".

    Then make a final image of the OS once you were happy with the configuration - which you could use to restore later instead of the out of the box image - and do it all again.

    Now MS set's you out in the middle of the ocean of uncertainty, installing a completely from zero image of Windows 10 at the current point in time, and then you have to hope all the drivers you need work well with the "current point in time" OS, which they all won't.

    I guess you could download and keep Windows 10 OS images from MS continually, and pick one from say 4-12 weeks ago, hoping that's given vendors enough time to update all their drivers and the ones currently available work with that OS image.

    What a freaking mess. :)
     
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    this is my CP,-Z
    3.PNG

    is there any problem with my CPU?
     
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    Thanks guys. For those that have bought this machine as a desktop replacement - the bulk of its life will be plugged in to the power at home. Does the laptop battery need to be cycled regularly by discharging fully regularly e.g once a week, or is there a special break in procedure for new laptops to ensure longevity of the battery?
     
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    Full discharge is the worst option - it's the fastest way to knock a Lithium battery dead. Do Google.
     
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    Don't worry about the battery, just leave it plugged in and let the charging circuit maintain a varied storage charge.

    On the MSI battery icon you will see quite often less than 100% charge, "plugged in not charging", and it will discharge a bit, and then charge up to a different level, from 93% to 100%.

    If you use the battery, just plug it back in and let it charge.

    Play games, watch movies, do homework, or work work, and let the battery charging circuit do it's thing :)
     
  16. Kevin

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    Those are the CPU's idle clocks.

    Select Turbo in the DGC, then take the screenshot.
     
  17. powerofviva

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    would you please let me know is? or which information should I share?
     
  18. hussamalnajjar2012

    hussamalnajjar2012 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Guys
    are there any available Skins for this machine,to give it like more professional look ?
     
  19. Cerreta28

    Cerreta28 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey guys I just found a very good price for one of these systems it's a sli 1080 system for a 6820hk for 2300USD .. I was wonder how the fan noise is .. I was hoping its like the 73vr .. any info would be great


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    There ain't no such critter :)

    The only 1080 SLI MSI is the GT83VR.

    The MSI GT73VR has a single 1080 model, and an SLI 1070 model, no 1080 SLI GT73VR's...
     
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  21. Cerreta28

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    Correct ! I'm talking about the 83 was hoping the fan noise is similar


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    Here's a couple of GT8X groups that can help:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...an-sli-owners-lounge-nvidia-gtx-1080s.794897/

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-official-msi-gt80-titan-owners-lounge.769092/

    Dude, the fans on a GT83VR are very very loud... but that's because it's got POWER!!

    It's not a GT73VR, but a "little bigger", it's HUGE!!

    And, it's only got a 60hz non-Gsync 18.4" screen, which I love, but it's not gonna be *cool* enough for some that want a 120hz G-sync screen.

    The GT83VR 1080 SLI uses *2* HUGE 330w PSU's, and even on auto the fans will scream while gaming.

    It's an awesome laptop, make no mistake it's got a huge wow factor, and will game for years with those GPU's, but it's a real commitment to pack up and carry around and unpack every day, so be aware.

    It's a Marine's Marine laptop, heavy gunnery division, no messing around ;)
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Have you seen *SMALL* 330w psu's before? :vbbiggrin:
     
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    Not talking to me, I'm talking to the guy asking about it :)

    I just wanted to make clear that in comparison to a GT73VR the GT83VR 1080 SLI is H*U*G*E* and so is everything else about it.

    330w PSU's aren't something most people have seen, in comparison to those puny 90w/120w/180w/230w/250w PSU's the 330w PSU is GINORMOUS!

    The 2 x 330w PSU's + connector box + cables at 7lbs weighs more than most laptops!!

    The laptop weighs 12lbs, so that's 19lb's dry weight, load that thing up with games and it's gonna weigh a ton!! :D :rolleyes: o_O :p
    2 x 330w + connector + cables #1.jpg
    2 x 330w + connector + cables #2 7lbs.jpg
    GT83vr weight 12lbs.jpg
     
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  25. Cerreta28

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    Shoot I was hoping the noise would be similar to the 73 VR


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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    HaHa, Maybe they think all machines with 1080 have the same puny wimpy psu as the Razerbook? :eek: Dang, people need to be educated :vbbiggrin: Info out to the masses bruh :biggrin: I have to step up :bigyes: @Phoenix :rolleyes:
     
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    Nah, listen to this sucker starting at 8:20, and at 15:10, check out the disassembly starting at 21:10 - check out those huge fan stacks, and then watch the whole video :)


    That price of $2300 seems too low by 1/2, are you sure it's a 1080 SLI, and not a 980 or 980m SLI??
     
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    Hi, im very interested on the MSI GT73VR 7RE Titan 427, but wondering about the CPU, does a mobile CPU like the i7-7820HK bottleneck the GTX1070?
     
  29. Cerreta28

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    Yes I'm sure


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    That's great, then as long as it's not "hot" as in stolen - check the receipt carefully - then you've found a "motivated" seller and it's a real bargain.

    You could always sell it for more later if it's too much for your use.
     
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    I'm mostly worried about the fan noise more than anything


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    Yeah, you've said that several times now, so if that's the case and you actually do stuff on the laptop - like game, run stuff, you know - make the fans run, you'll likely be unhappy with the noise.

    That's why I haven't wanted one yet... too noisy. :cool:

    Edit: We are talking about the GT83VR, not the GT73VR :)
     
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  33. Djadit

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    Hello phoenix . I need your help.
    Does msi super raid 4 work on 2 ssd configuration that is not in raid. But runs on raid mode settings in bios ?

    Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
     
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    For SLI models, One is better then Two with more juice nearly 780watt

    @hmscott @Papusan

    [​IMG]
     
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    The CPU doesn't bottlenect the GTX 1070 but the power adapter wattage does. On GT73VR the 230W is enough for a single GTX 1070.
     
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    For SLI models? A Single 330w is barely enough for 7700K and single 1080. I pushed 425w from the wall in Firestrike with oc'd 6700K and single 980. On the border right before psu will shut down.
     
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    Hey guys, I have the GTX-1070 version of this notebook. I am wondering how many external monitors this can support or what is the best bang for buck external monitor setup/selection for gaming? I am wondering if a 3 monitor setup is too ambitious. I have an old single Dell 27" 3000WFP that I was using before but it is probably 6-7 years old now. What setup are you running if any ?
     
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    A few questions:

    Are you using a laptop to play, what's wrong with the laptop's mic? I play competitively and no one had a problem with me using my laptop's mic.
    If a headphone is good at music, why would that mean it's no good in games?
    What type of headphone do you want? on ear, over ear, open back, semi open, closed, noise cancelling?

    Wired/wireless options are more expensive and you're paying for a feature, rather then performance.

    Wireless may be convenient for you, but until recently, wireless headphones have lagged behind wired units for quite some time. The medium of transfer, interference, range ect introduce other elements that can induce noise or artifacts.

    Gaming headphones are a gimmick. Overly bass heavy with poor frequency response and lossy sounds that's are shillish and harsh on the ears. Rather then going for an expensive "gaming" headphone or headset, look at what headphone is comfy for you and what sound signature you like. It sounds to me, that you'd prefer a warm/fun headphone that emphases on the bass.

    Depending on location, great deals could be had from sites like massdrop that can really get you a great headphone within your budget. They also do massdrop exclusive production lines, take a look at the AKG range, I think that would suit you well.

    This is an option for adding a mic to any headphone: https://antlionaudio.com/products/modmic-4 if you're against using the laptop's mic.

    Perhaps the biggest drawback for me with wireless headphones, would be the limit of using an amp. If your budget can include an amp and a headphone, it can be used to transform your listening experience even more.

    With budget headphones, you'll probably have to learn how to use an equalizer to adjust the sound to your liking. The further up the chain you go, the less digital processing you'll use and enjoy the unique sound signature of the headphone itself.

    If you're open to 2nd hand options, there are some great options out there, where even modded headphones can be had. Take a look at http://www.innerfidelity.com/ and do some research in their recommended page in your price range and type of preferred headphone for either new or 2nd hand options.
     
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    Definately this one. :0)

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154463

    Go for the 1080 if you can stretch to afford it. The 1070 SLI isn't really much better performance wise than the 1080.
     
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    Thats up to you. I have the 120hz display and its great. You could choose the 4K option if you want.

    I'd go for the 1080 8gb GPU, 7820HK CPU, 32GB ram option if I were you. (Oh wait i already did, lol.)

    You'd be future proofing yourself for a few years with this laptop.

    I quite like the 7820HK cpu because its Kabylake and overclockable.

    Single GPU is preferable on a laptop because of power draw and cooling fan noise issues, so the 1080 is the best option.

    Go for the 32gb ram because there are 4 ram slots in this laptop. 2 of these slots are not easy to get to without
    stripping the laptop down. If you order 32gb they will likely install two sticks of 16gb in the hard to get to slots in the factory,
    and if you want to you can upgrade in the future using the 2 easy to access ram slots.

    SSD's and HDD's are up to you really because they are easy to get to in this laptop and with a little knowhow you can save
    some cash by buying and installing your own.
     
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    Ok, thanks bro for the information, i will take this one

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAAPK5BY1399&ignorebbr=1
     
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    Do you have to buy from newegg?

    I'd recommend buying from Amazon or HID Evolution if you can. They both have excellent aftersales service reputations.
    Invaluable if something should go wrong, I personally bought from amazon and they were fantastic with me when I returned
    two different ASUS gaming laptops I foolishly bought before discovering the excellent GT73VR, they refunded me within a week
    of return both times.

    $3k is a lot of cash if something does go wrong.
     
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    Do most people run their laptop in shift turbo mode most of the time


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    Turbo when running games and sport the rest of the time for me.

    I launch my games through DCC using left_ctrl + 1 or 2 or 3 etc. With a profile set to activate turbo mode in DCC for each individual game.
     
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    Because i have credit on newegg for finance 12 months lol
     
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    I'm a sucker for a zero percent interest deal so I bought my last two MSIs through there, next time I may just pay cash too one of the aforementioned vendors.
     
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    For my, right now just like that i can buy with credit
     
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